tracicle, they did cheer, but that all stopped once they knew that moore wasn't getting up. mostly. there are bad people everywhere.
i forgot a key player in my rant...the media. lets not forget the role they played in hyping the so-called bounty, or how they love to talk about a good fight (see the sens/philly game for more on that).
well bertuzzi is gone for the season, the playoffs, and the commissioner will rule before the start of training camp next year whether or not he can play, he is fined roughly 500k, and the canucks get fined 250K as well. i think in general that is fair.
i have watched a lot of vehement rhetoric fly around as a result of this, most of it useless drivel. inframonkey, bert certainly said those things, but that was then, this is now, and its a world of difference. want some more juicy irony? granato was once suspended for 15 games by brian burke (then the leagues disciplinarian) for breaking his stick over a players head. any intent to injure there?
bertuzzi is pretty clearly very sorry and upset (link to real video) about it. while bert may bear the brunt of the responsibility for this incident, everyone associated with hockey, everyone, from the league execs to the coaches to the players to the fans bears responsibility for creating an atmosphere in which this kind of thing could even possibly occur.
/rant
on a brighter note, looks like moore will recover fully.
a generalised translation from a german friend of mine:
"Anyway, in a nutshell the letter is an attempt to present the major problems of the world (in 1955 I guess) in an objective matter. He talks alot about the need for objectivity, truth and justice. He also mentions the striving for power and the tendency of people in power to perceive reality in a self-serving manner (I have added some interpretation here). He describes the world as being composed of two quarelling camps, the free world and the communist world. He writes about the development of nuclear weapons, the arms race and the fact that conflict has taken on a 'ghost-like' appearance, because nuclear weapons have changed the face of war fare. He also urges us not to underestimate the conflict in the middle east and the possibility of nuclear war. "
eerie.
Basketball has been referred to as the "sweet science"
actually i think that is boxing.
keith talent, i agree, i am a bit ashamed to be a canuck fan today. but lets be clear here: bertuzzi wanted to give the guy a thrashing. he did not want to nearly kill him. he was stupid and will pay for it, likely both from his conscience as well as his pocket.
lets all hope, regardless of your opinion on hockey or violence in sports, that moore recuperates fast and well. he and his family are in my thoughts tonite.
clf is right on, said what i was mentally noting as i went through the comments, but neglects one thing: when running, firefox, mozilla, netscape and opera _all_ use less memory than ie. damn bloatware. now that is perhaps less of an issue for anyone with high end machines, but not all of us are. don't believe me...try it.
ie will be getting popup blocking etc, but if you haven't tried tabbed browsing you really have to...no really, you MUST! plus firefox has the option of blocking, with a simple click, many of the banner ads etc you see on so many sites (blinking, flashing, annoying bastard ads...grr)
path - i worded my question badly. first it shouldn't have been put just to you, i meant anyone who thought the question was interesting. any other pronoun in my last post should be taken in the same sense as the 'royal we'. second i wasn't trying to convince anyone of the 'rightness' of either of those guys opinions.
the debate i was proposing was that someone's opinion makes more of a difference the wider an audience it reaches, even if it makes no difference to any one person.
really it was just an idle thought at an idle moment.
"I don't think his opinion makes any more difference than mine (or yours) does."
ok. just for fun, path, lt. smash averages nearly 4000 hits per day. glenn reynolds, also known as instapundit, averages closer too 100k hits per day.
so if a web presence matters, whose opinion matters more: widely read people (even if you disagree with them) or yours?
it could be yours, im not really arguing that. what is mofi stats lately? what makes someone's opinion matter more, on the web? isn't it arguably reader stats? or isn't it? worth a discussion.
"The deep is cold, dark, high-pressure, and relatively anoxic. Think adaptation. Dark means either large, staring eyes or no eyes at all, and few pretty shiny colors (there being little point in generating the pigments). High-pressure means unusual body shapes. Anoxic (on top of high pressure) implies less potential for exertion, so no streamlined athletic swimmers, and (on top of dark) bodies predicated around "let the prey come to you" rather than "chase the bunny.""
goetter you are partly right. large or no eyes is common in creatures evolving in limited or no light conditions. colour is often forsaken too, but you won't find many blind deepsea fish: bioluminescence as a means to both attract prey and mates. as a matter of fact several of the fish in those pics are really pretty colorful - this could be because of diet or more likely they just never lost the pretty colours that evolved somewhere else. making your skin one colour or another isn't very costly energetically, and doesn't make you more of a target to predators when its dark anyway ;)
pressure has little to do with body shape, in general shapes of fish are determined by their lifestyle (which you pointed out), they are either swimmers or sit-and-wait predators. swimmers look like surface fish - herring, salmon, tuna, while SAW fish tend to have big heads and shortish but powerful bodies. one characteristic of deepsea fish that is a result of pressure is the flesh consistency - its really rubbery. not good for eating!
the deep ocean is not _always_ relatively anoxic. O2 concentrations are determined by pressure, temperature, salinity primarily. deep water is often very cold, and fairly saline and obviously under a great deal of pressure - all of which can increase O2 concentration. the gulf stream area of the atlantic for example has less 02 in general at the suface than at 3000m. also, these fish were taken from a seamount survey between 200m and 1.2 km. seamounts are incredibly productive oases in an otherwise relatively barren deep basin. even so, most deep water has more than enough O2 for fish, unlike areas in fjords where replenishment can be a rare event and deep waters grows anoxic.
sorry for the length of the post, but i thought someone might find it interesting.
IAAMB
"I thought I hadn't heard of linkfilter, but I typed in my stock name and password, and it logged me in. And I still don't remember the site..."
root/god are not exactly uncommon....
i can just imagine his comments if he did allow it. but yes, i would, as well, prefer he did. soon maybe.
posted by owl 20 years ago
maybe. i thought it was a lot more interesting that he is reprinting verbatim his jousting with a reporter.
posted by owl 20 years ago
In "'Street Justice'?"
tracicle, they did cheer, but that all stopped once they knew that moore wasn't getting up. mostly. there are bad people everywhere. i forgot a key player in my rant...the media. lets not forget the role they played in hyping the so-called bounty, or how they love to talk about a good fight (see the sens/philly game for more on that).
posted by owl 20 years ago
well bertuzzi is gone for the season, the playoffs, and the commissioner will rule before the start of training camp next year whether or not he can play, he is fined roughly 500k, and the canucks get fined 250K as well. i think in general that is fair. i have watched a lot of vehement rhetoric fly around as a result of this, most of it useless drivel. inframonkey, bert certainly said those things, but that was then, this is now, and its a world of difference. want some more juicy irony? granato was once suspended for 15 games by brian burke (then the leagues disciplinarian) for breaking his stick over a players head. any intent to injure there? bertuzzi is pretty clearly very sorry and upset (link to real video) about it. while bert may bear the brunt of the responsibility for this incident, everyone associated with hockey, everyone, from the league execs to the coaches to the players to the fans bears responsibility for creating an atmosphere in which this kind of thing could even possibly occur. /rant on a brighter note, looks like moore will recover fully.
posted by owl 20 years ago
In "Hey you guuuuuuuuuuuuys!"
easy reader made me want to read...great post, thanks for taking me back!
posted by owl 20 years ago
In "The Last Written Words of Albert Einstein."
a generalised translation from a german friend of mine: "Anyway, in a nutshell the letter is an attempt to present the major problems of the world (in 1955 I guess) in an objective matter. He talks alot about the need for objectivity, truth and justice. He also mentions the striving for power and the tendency of people in power to perceive reality in a self-serving manner (I have added some interpretation here). He describes the world as being composed of two quarelling camps, the free world and the communist world. He writes about the development of nuclear weapons, the arms race and the fact that conflict has taken on a 'ghost-like' appearance, because nuclear weapons have changed the face of war fare. He also urges us not to underestimate the conflict in the middle east and the possibility of nuclear war. " eerie.
posted by owl 20 years ago
In "'Street Justice'?"
Basketball has been referred to as the "sweet science" actually i think that is boxing. keith talent, i agree, i am a bit ashamed to be a canuck fan today. but lets be clear here: bertuzzi wanted to give the guy a thrashing. he did not want to nearly kill him. he was stupid and will pay for it, likely both from his conscience as well as his pocket. lets all hope, regardless of your opinion on hockey or violence in sports, that moore recuperates fast and well. he and his family are in my thoughts tonite.
posted by owl 20 years ago
In "The 16 Best-ever Freeware Utilities."
clf is right on, said what i was mentally noting as i went through the comments, but neglects one thing: when running, firefox, mozilla, netscape and opera _all_ use less memory than ie. damn bloatware. now that is perhaps less of an issue for anyone with high end machines, but not all of us are. don't believe me...try it. ie will be getting popup blocking etc, but if you haven't tried tabbed browsing you really have to...no really, you MUST! plus firefox has the option of blocking, with a simple click, many of the banner ads etc you see on so many sites (blinking, flashing, annoying bastard ads...grr)
posted by owl 20 years ago
In "It Takes A Lot of Nerve To Post This"
path - i worded my question badly. first it shouldn't have been put just to you, i meant anyone who thought the question was interesting. any other pronoun in my last post should be taken in the same sense as the 'royal we'. second i wasn't trying to convince anyone of the 'rightness' of either of those guys opinions. the debate i was proposing was that someone's opinion makes more of a difference the wider an audience it reaches, even if it makes no difference to any one person. really it was just an idle thought at an idle moment.
posted by owl 20 years ago
"I don't think his opinion makes any more difference than mine (or yours) does." ok. just for fun, path, lt. smash averages nearly 4000 hits per day. glenn reynolds, also known as instapundit, averages closer too 100k hits per day. so if a web presence matters, whose opinion matters more: widely read people (even if you disagree with them) or yours? it could be yours, im not really arguing that. what is mofi stats lately? what makes someone's opinion matter more, on the web? isn't it arguably reader stats? or isn't it? worth a discussion.
posted by owl 20 years ago
In "Deep-Sea Fish"
"The deep is cold, dark, high-pressure, and relatively anoxic. Think adaptation. Dark means either large, staring eyes or no eyes at all, and few pretty shiny colors (there being little point in generating the pigments). High-pressure means unusual body shapes. Anoxic (on top of high pressure) implies less potential for exertion, so no streamlined athletic swimmers, and (on top of dark) bodies predicated around "let the prey come to you" rather than "chase the bunny."" goetter you are partly right. large or no eyes is common in creatures evolving in limited or no light conditions. colour is often forsaken too, but you won't find many blind deepsea fish: bioluminescence as a means to both attract prey and mates. as a matter of fact several of the fish in those pics are really pretty colorful - this could be because of diet or more likely they just never lost the pretty colours that evolved somewhere else. making your skin one colour or another isn't very costly energetically, and doesn't make you more of a target to predators when its dark anyway ;) pressure has little to do with body shape, in general shapes of fish are determined by their lifestyle (which you pointed out), they are either swimmers or sit-and-wait predators. swimmers look like surface fish - herring, salmon, tuna, while SAW fish tend to have big heads and shortish but powerful bodies. one characteristic of deepsea fish that is a result of pressure is the flesh consistency - its really rubbery. not good for eating! the deep ocean is not _always_ relatively anoxic. O2 concentrations are determined by pressure, temperature, salinity primarily. deep water is often very cold, and fairly saline and obviously under a great deal of pressure - all of which can increase O2 concentration. the gulf stream area of the atlantic for example has less 02 in general at the suface than at 3000m. also, these fish were taken from a seamount survey between 200m and 1.2 km. seamounts are incredibly productive oases in an otherwise relatively barren deep basin. even so, most deep water has more than enough O2 for fish, unlike areas in fjords where replenishment can be a rare event and deep waters grows anoxic. sorry for the length of the post, but i thought someone might find it interesting. IAAMB
posted by owl 20 years ago
In "Monkeyshines"
no kidding goetter, that screen in screen was annoying. but the monkey was as funny as all get out!
posted by owl 20 years ago
In "MoFi on Linkfilter"
"I thought I hadn't heard of linkfilter, but I typed in my stock name and password, and it logged me in. And I still don't remember the site..." root/god are not exactly uncommon....
posted by owl 20 years ago
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