She's been on Al-Jazeera before. Al Jazeera has lots of controversial people on, it is how they get ratings. They want to sell themselves as a station that offers a chance for Arab to make their voices heard. They draw from people from rather conflicting viewpoints and pit them against each other.
I guess this stuff isn't usually translated and made digestable for western audiences, so whenever they see what kind of content is on the station, they think some sort of breakthough just occurred.
That being said, her whole clash of civilization mentality is foolish. It happens to be the same simplistic black and white worldview the extremist types used, just flipped around.
I have no clue what chyren `knows' about Islam's views on this subject, but allow me to add some insight.
If we seriously want to discuss Islam and domestic abuse, we need to look at the traditional Islamic views on the subject. But, that will just give us a theoretical view, we would also need to see, do people follow the teachings or act of their own will.
#1. The fırst issue is addressed in detail here: http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=612&CATE=10
The bottom line is that any such dispensation is severely limited (in that it is only allowed in the extreme situation of adultery, and even then it is discouraged, AND if done, is to be done with something like a miswak (a sort of wooden toothbrush, but smaller than a normal plastic toothbrush)).
(note: i studied with Gibril Haddad
and have to say, he's one of the rare, real-deal geniuses i've met as well as a excellent teacher (which is understood from his years of teaching at Columbia U))
#2. what about reality?
Sadly, many men, muslims and nonmuslim, are scum who have little respect for the dignity of women, and are abusive no matter what society, religion, and just plain common decency tell them.
That being said, in discussions with my local imam, he's very frank when he says, "the biggest problem in this community is that a number of men continue to ignore all religious rulings forbidding domestic abuse."
It is an acknowleged problem and few muslims would contend that the law should be ignored for any reason. Beating your wife is horrible and people who do so deserve to be punished.
that being said, nationally domestic violence is still a serious problem where i am currently, in the U.S. Work needs to be done amongst all people,including immigrant communities, to prevent such acts.
from the ABA's website:
"# 4 million American women experience a serious assault by an intimate partner during an average 12-month period.
American Psychl. Ass'n, Violence and the Family: Report of the American Psychological Association Presidential Task Force on Violence and the Family (1996), p. 10.
# nearly 1 in 3 adult women experience at least one physical assault by a partner during adulthood.
American Psychl. Ass'n, Violence and the Family: Report of the American Psychological Association Presidential Task Force on Violence and the Family (1996), p. 10.
Uhm, newsflash.
Arab Televisions stations, particularly MBC and MBC2, have been airing American television programming for years. The key difference here is that while they usually subtitle their television shows, in this case they dubbed it.
While living in Syria, channel flipping provided me with subtitled versions of shows such as: The Simpsons, Futurama, Malcolm in the Middle. Even Bernie Mac!
They also had the hour long drama kind of series like Angel, Alias, and Charmed.
It shows how quickly ignorant people who have no clue about what the mid-east is like post about what they think the `arab reaction' to western programming is.
beautiful downtown baghdad?
posted by mulligan 18 years ago
In "Incredibly bold opinion offered on Al-Jazeera"
She's been on Al-Jazeera before. Al Jazeera has lots of controversial people on, it is how they get ratings. They want to sell themselves as a station that offers a chance for Arab to make their voices heard. They draw from people from rather conflicting viewpoints and pit them against each other. I guess this stuff isn't usually translated and made digestable for western audiences, so whenever they see what kind of content is on the station, they think some sort of breakthough just occurred. That being said, her whole clash of civilization mentality is foolish. It happens to be the same simplistic black and white worldview the extremist types used, just flipped around.
posted by mulligan 18 years ago
In "New Mystery Mammal Found."
I thought it was obvious: Wulffraat
posted by mulligan 18 years ago
In "Is domestic violence now relative?"
I have no clue what chyren `knows' about Islam's views on this subject, but allow me to add some insight. If we seriously want to discuss Islam and domestic abuse, we need to look at the traditional Islamic views on the subject. But, that will just give us a theoretical view, we would also need to see, do people follow the teachings or act of their own will. #1. The fırst issue is addressed in detail here: http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=612&CATE=10 The bottom line is that any such dispensation is severely limited (in that it is only allowed in the extreme situation of adultery, and even then it is discouraged, AND if done, is to be done with something like a miswak (a sort of wooden toothbrush, but smaller than a normal plastic toothbrush)). (note: i studied with Gibril Haddad and have to say, he's one of the rare, real-deal geniuses i've met as well as a excellent teacher (which is understood from his years of teaching at Columbia U)) #2. what about reality? Sadly, many men, muslims and nonmuslim, are scum who have little respect for the dignity of women, and are abusive no matter what society, religion, and just plain common decency tell them. That being said, in discussions with my local imam, he's very frank when he says, "the biggest problem in this community is that a number of men continue to ignore all religious rulings forbidding domestic abuse." It is an acknowleged problem and few muslims would contend that the law should be ignored for any reason. Beating your wife is horrible and people who do so deserve to be punished. that being said, nationally domestic violence is still a serious problem where i am currently, in the U.S. Work needs to be done amongst all people,including immigrant communities, to prevent such acts. from the ABA's website: "# 4 million American women experience a serious assault by an intimate partner during an average 12-month period. American Psychl. Ass'n, Violence and the Family: Report of the American Psychological Association Presidential Task Force on Violence and the Family (1996), p. 10. # nearly 1 in 3 adult women experience at least one physical assault by a partner during adulthood. American Psychl. Ass'n, Violence and the Family: Report of the American Psychological Association Presidential Task Force on Violence and the Family (1996), p. 10.
posted by mulligan 19 years ago
In "Poochie sez: "Pray five times a day!""
Uhm, newsflash. Arab Televisions stations, particularly MBC and MBC2, have been airing American television programming for years. The key difference here is that while they usually subtitle their television shows, in this case they dubbed it. While living in Syria, channel flipping provided me with subtitled versions of shows such as: The Simpsons, Futurama, Malcolm in the Middle. Even Bernie Mac! They also had the hour long drama kind of series like Angel, Alias, and Charmed. It shows how quickly ignorant people who have no clue about what the mid-east is like post about what they think the `arab reaction' to western programming is.
posted by mulligan 19 years ago
In "40 things that only happen in the movies."
You know, I very much recall reading most of not ALL of these in a copy of Mad Magazine published in the early 80s. seriously. "All original content copyright © 1998, 2005 Nostalgia Central. All rights reserved." What a load!
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