June 19, 2005

• ornici was found dead on the cross on Wednesday after fellow nuns called an ambulance I guess its not THAT much of a miracle if they felt a need for an ambulance. Fuckheads..
• >"...finally Irina is delivered from evil," AFP quoted the priest as saying. Does he mean himself?
• I got the impression that the nuns who called the ambulance were not sympathetic to the Priest or the nun(s) who were principally involved in the "excorcism".
• Fuhh---HUck!
• (deep breath) Crucifixion's a doddle. I am now going to hell. But that is just stupid, stupid shit. I'd even respect exorcism as the historical, holistic treatment for schizophrenia, but.. shit. I would also guess that she had started to smell by the time they called the authorities.
• I wouldn't call exorcism "holistic", maybe naturopathic. Trouble is, schizophrenia can not be treated by "natural" remedies. Besides medication, it can be mollified through therapy and group/family/societal support. If anything this was about making the priest and nuns feel better about something that they could not control, i.e. the poor woman's schizophrenia. When they could not explain her behavior, they reasoned it was supernatural, thus the crucifixion.
• Rue-mania.
• Frigging barbarians. Haven't they heard of trephining?
• That poor, mad nun.
• I loved my dead, possessed nun.
• What's black, white and red and hangs from the ceiling? Crucified Romanian Nun. well, that's one less Catholic. What do you call a dead, crucified Romanian nun? A fucking good start. What's black & white, then black and off-white, black and sepia, then black and brown, then black and black? Crucified Romanian nun on a rotisserie.
• I would pay money to see pics of the crime scene tho.
• beeswacky wins.
• well, that's one less Catholic. Easter Orthodox. Dark doings in the isolated mountain villages of Romania? Imagine that.
• Well. *ah hem Hey, Chyren! You are sooooo going to hell. hee hee Look at those ignorant cruel religious bastards in that bassackwards country. Why, here, in the Ewe Nyted Sattes, the Christian Right would never sanction torture.
• yes, who are truly the bad guys, nutty-ass Romanians, or perhaps... AMERICANS!!! Makes you think, doesnt it? Also, Bush is dumb.
• We're all guilty. I am an equal opportunity hater, I despise everyone including myself. Also, death to extremists!
• "What do you call a dead, crucified Romanian nun? A fucking good start." Not particularly funny. And not particularly helpful as a discussion point. Yes religious people can be bat-shit nuts, and yes, (even as this thread really had nothing to do with the religious right of the US), Bush and his bat-shit nuts allies are torturing "enemy combatants " even as I write this. But it seems kind of fucked up to celebrate the death of someone that could have had a chance with medication. I don't have schizophrenia, but I have struggled with depression. I would hope that people wouldn't respond to my death in the same way.
• I thought the rotisserie thing was funny
• I would like to take this opportunity to point out that I am against the crucifixion of Romanian nuns. No matter their country of origin, their gender, or their religious beliefs. Shame on all of you.
• What do you call a dead, crucified jew? A fucking good start. Or how about: What do you call a dead, crucified nigger? A fucking good start. Or perhaps: What do you call a dead, crucified faggot? A fucking good start. *taps microphone* Is this thing on?
• You have to have an assumption of bigotry. I wasn't offended because I thought that version of that old joke was offered ironically. Or maybe surrealistically. It wasn't overtly funny. Romanian nuns are neither known objects of bigotry on mofi, nor are they particularly sacred here, either. What you're left with is an absurd and repulsive image for its own sake. Which was sort of weird. But, if there was some religious intolerance (or intolerance of religion) in that joke, I stand corrected.
• I apologise if I offended. My response to horrific acts that I can't do anything about is to make a joke, and more often than not they sound like I'm a nasty piece of work. I don't intend it that way, I simply can't face the idea of a person tortured to death by a religious fanatic without some kind of buffer. The world can be a rather nasty place and black humour is my defense mechanism. Points well taken, squid (points that occurred to me directly after posting, which amplifies my stupidity). apologies.
• My disclaimer: I thought the rotisserie joke was funny because of the over-the-top black humor, not the subject of it. I have nothing against nuns or Catholics per se and I think the priest responsible for the crucifiction is completely insane.
• Many people are really frightened at laughing at people worse off than themselves. They're scared to laugh at the poor or the sick. They somehow fail to see the joke of cripples. They think that tittering at blind people or giggling at the lame is somehow in bad form or in bad taste. They feel that it is insensitive to laugh at the deaf or the deformed. That it is infra-dig to enjoy a really good joke at the expense of people who are different colours from you, when really there's no harm at all at laughing at funny foriegners or idiots or people worse off than you. Women, for example, are always funny, and you can have a good laugh at old people just as easily precisely because they are so much nearer death than you. It's healthy to laugh at people with no limbs, short people - it gets it out in the open. Laughter is the best medicine, and they deserve the best medicine we can give them. So let's laugh at everything more and everyone more.
• *points at Chy* Ha-ha!
• Chy, you need a nap. And with all due respect to the great B's, kmellis wins. this is the fault of the Em-tee-vee video games.
• Only very few people will know where that screed actually comes from.
• BTW, I'm really not too worried about Chy being a nazi or anything. But there is a tone of intollerance of christians on this site that I sometimes find troubling. I don't think that the same joke would have been even considered if one was to replace "nun" with "rabbi". I am not a christian and find the stuff that some of them do in god's name horrifying, but at the same time I think that we go a bit overboard with the christian bashing, especially when it's a poor schizophrenic, that's all. Now if you want to tell jokes about powerfull assholes like Jerry Fallwell...
• *puts up hand* Um, wouldn't it be a tad more Nazi-like if Chy were to rabbi-bash? /prefers to bash all theists equally
• I share your sentiments, Squid. A little tolerance isn't too much to ask.
• Thirded from the cheap seats. And not for the first time, I recall.
• shtick, I think that you missed my point. Just because someone belives in a god or gods (i.e. any sort of theists) does not make them a justifible target of ridicule. Call them christians, jews, theists, whatever..., we might want to check ourselves before we post this sort of stuff. I'd personally like monkeyfilter to be a place where a beliving christian could share opinions with me, an agnostic buddhist without being offended by lines like "well, that's one less Catholic" and "What do you call a dead, crucified Romanian nun? A fucking good start." Capish?
• As a lapsed Catholic and gone to the bad, I've known all along I'm agoin' to hell with the rest of the non, un, or wrong believers. The whole attitude of those religious toward those not of the correct faith never bothered me much until the last five or six years. Now I find myself reacting to the word "christian" like I would to fingernails on a chalkboard. I still don't like the tone of most of these jokes, but I'm wondering if the atmosphere of intolerance is what provokes it.
• drench- I was merely being somewhat non-anti-semantic, as it were, with regard to yer nazi comment. But I wonder if maybe it's easier to pick on some religions than others because some are more easy-going about being teased, or sumpin'.
• shtick, name me a religion that would "easy going" listening to a humiliating joke about one of their members dying in a terribly painful fashion? *Hey rabbi, how many Jews can you fit in a Volkswagen?* I don't think you are going to find too many. We (monkeys) should be better than this. If not, then I don’t wanna be here anymore. BTW, it's "dranch".
• I was pulling a deliberate beeswacky, squidranch. And I took it in the ironic vein as did kmellis. And my sister's husband's third cousin is a Catholic.
• Methinks a few of those sounded like dead baby jokes.
• Okay, lets see a show of hands How many of you think that crucifying romanion nuns is funny? Okay... How many of you think it's not funny? All of you who showed your hands for the first question... leave mofi right now. All of you who raised your hands for the second question give yourself two bannanas. So there we go, squidranch, problem solved.