June 16, 2005

• I want to say, no, nothing of the sort. Personally, I would have to say "maybe." But it isn't necessarily stright to lewd and lacivious, more like an aethetic reaction, like, oh, that's nice.
• 1. usually. 2. sometimes. though, pokey nips are hardly requisite for thinking lewd/lacivious thoughts about you. if you are cute, chances are men *may* already be undressing you with their eyes... in which case they only serve as a visual aid. 3. i wouldn't worry about, really... unless you are wearing, like, a wedding dress... in which case it's kinda tacky. 4. band-aids?
• what - the - fuck
• Before I had my son, I had my nipples pierced. When I got cold, it looked like I had 4 nipples. Because I felt stupid, I always wore padded bras. After the boob issues that come with having a kid, I sort of got too tired to care. I'm wearing non-padded bras for the first time in years and loving it. It helps me to think that at least it's just my nipples that are having an involuntary reflex. It could be worse; I could have a wang and have that randomly stand at attention...
• You could try these or these.
• When men see perky nipples, or cleavage, or anything else they find arousing, they're not necessarily thinking lewd or lacivious thoughts. Personally, I liken it to hearing a really cool song come on the radio - just smile and enjoy the serendipity of the situation....then move on.
• If a woman has her "high-beams" on, yes I notice and yes I start thinking lewd and lacivious thoughts. But then again, I think lewd and lacivious thoughts while making tea, or de-icing my freezer, or replacing my spark plugs. Nonetheless, hard nipples are kinda hawt.
• I agree with rocket88. I'm certainly no saint, but my immediate reaction to seeing perky nips is to appreciate the circumstances and then forget about it as soon as they're out of sight. If I were you, I'd just try to ignore it and be comfortable with yourself.
• Most men notice, yes. As to what we think, that depends on the man. If the man already finds you attractive, then noticing that the girls are up and around will likely be a turn-on to him. All things being equal, line up ten guys in a row, I'll be conservative and say seven would experience at least some mild arousal. But it's not just limited to nipples. Some of us just have a "breast thing" that fires every now and then and makes us suddenly very aware that you have breasts, even if we're otherwise sensitive and enlightened gentlemen who honestly want to have a solid, Platonic friendship/working arrangement with you. The short version is that any man who's prone to fantasizing about you wouldn't stop just because you're keeping them under wraps. A man who wants to fantasize about you is going to fantasize about you regardless of what you wear, and unless he's a scumbag, he's going to keep it to himself. The ladies around here might be better at giving advice of how to "get over it," but as long as you're not getting inappropriate reactions to it (comments or leering or whatever), you might consider that it's not really a big deal, and any enlightened man doesn't think less of you just because you occasionally get a little chilly. On preview, what rocket88 said. I think for most of us it's just a pleasant moment that we enjoy, then move back to our TPS reports.
• I have done the band aid thing before but I don't want to do that every day. I'd rather do what f8xmulder says and get over it.
• Would changing bras or wearing thicker tops solve the problem? Or, to put it delicately, are you a bit too prodigiously endowed for this to be a viable solution? I dunno. I don't know how to tell somebody to just get over anything. I'm not sure it ever works like that, but will require you to gradually grow more comfortable with your body. But I hope you understand that though most men are easily visually aroused, that doesn't necessarily equal objectifying you or thinking less of you.
• I think of turkey. But that's about it.
• we're men. we get lewd and lascivious thoughts making toast. nipples not required!
• MonkeyFilter: Nipples not required.
• Since I don't know how old you are, I'll throw this in: sometimes you're more prone to this during times of intense hormonal change, such as puberty, or, farther on down the line, menopause. If you fall into either category, maybe your friends will get a little less perky in time. If not, I suggest dressing more warmly all around, like no sandals unless it's actually hot, etc. And it's a bit extreme, but a bra with some sort of super-thin insulation, like the ones made for skiing, might work.
• Nipples not required. Oh? You don't have any?
• I wear padded bras all the time now because of this, and they work fine. (Although it sucks wearing them on a date.) But I have a few tank tops I'd like to wear and I never feel comfortable doing so. I don't think the band aid trick would go over well on a date either.
• Most men are not going to care much about your erect nipples, except to think, "Wow, that's kind of hot," which is much the same kind of thinking they'd have if they found your face, butt, or legs attractive. (Believe me, men are probably spending far more time looking at your butt than at your nipples, regardless of how hard they are. At least the men I know.) It may very well be that women are more interested in your hard nipples, along the lines of, "Look at her! Has she ever heard of wearing a padded bra?!" And to those women, I say, shut the heck up!
• I hope you understand that though most men are easily visually aroused, that doesn't necessarily equal objectifying you or thinking less of you. Also, I'd like to note that there's real wisdom in this sentence.
• Random comment: In Germany (Europe in general?), most female manikins have very noticably perky nipples. Serious answer: What Rocket88 said. Although sometimes I feel mildly embarrassed for her. Serious question: If a female does indeed appear perky, is that generally a good indication she is cold? Might she have an itchy bra or something? Or be thinking 'lewd and lacivious thoughts' right back at me?
• Answering stripe's comment, 1. You would know if it's cold out and whether she would be cold. 2. An itchy bra does not usually make a nipple perky. 3. This would be plausible, but you would most likely see her looking at you or shooting glances from time to time.
• J. Doe, I seriously think that if you are so consumed by something like this, you might need some therapy????? I would suggest that you try to enjoy their perkiness while you can because, believe me, they will not stay that way and you might just find yourself regretting the amount of time you spent worrying about it. Besides, it isn't just men looking, it's women, too. So, in essence, unless you have some sort of fear attached with this (aside from the imagined projections of what others might be thinking), please just get over it. On the other hand, given that you have posed this question to a community forum, possibly you have something more going on that just those troublesome perky nipples. I'd look into some therapy, either way.
• Good grief, it was just a question. One that I too have wondered about (except from the other side - don't these women realise they're pointing at me?). If you can't ask an anonymous question of complete strangers without getting referred to a therapist, what the hell's the point of the Intarwebs? To anwer the question, though: lewd thoughts are a way of life.
• Curious Engorged.
• Guess it all depends on the kind of people you're around. Co-workers at workplace may behave in one way, students in another, acquaintances or strangers on the street may leer and stare... and obviously, attire that's 'adequate' for one environment might not be in the street or a store. Friends might know better than to stare and let their gaze deep down your cleavage, while a creep in a bar or cafe may be out for whatever eye candy can get. It's their 'right', or so they think. It's a shame, that people have to feel unconfortable for other's rude actions; while a certain self-esteem issue may well be the point here, it's true creeps ruin it all for everyone. I've asked this to women, wondering how difficult for them is being eyed as predator chowder all day long; responses have run from bad experience-influenced ones ("you know that even with a long coat, creeps are undressing you in their minds") to the whimsical ("hey, it's a game, and it's reaffirmating! I love to get complimented and admired!"). And hey, don't feel that bad. Many women also keep mentally calculating how long our, erm, attributes are... : )
• I recommend getting over it. While I am a straight male who can find it sexy, sometimes I just notice, and sometimes not even that. It really depends upon whether I find the woman sexy first. If so, her elbows will probably get me worked up... I have noticed a lot of what I've taken to calling "nippliphobia" in popular culture lately. Can't find the ref, but I just heard about the show Desperate Housewives having to do digital blurring on their actresses because people were complaining whenever a stray nipple was visible through clothing. No one seemed to care back in the days of One Day At a Time or Three's Company, or at least care enough to get the studios to do something. I can't remember the last time I saw a catalog or underwear ad where any nipple or areolae were visible, and as an adolescent I used to notice such things frequently. I pointed this out to my wife and she said that recently people have beome a lot more sensitive to this, enough so that merchants will go way out of their way to make sure that nothing is visible! Anyway, if you do decide to not worry about it, I predict that you'll get some appreciative stares, some disapproving glares, and mostly indifference. Sounds like a decent asshole filter, to tell the truth.
• Personally I love perky nipple! Damn how I love 'em! Not necessarily just for the sexual implications but also for the warm fuzzy of sort that I get from seeing them. They're happy little things, eager to see the sun and run free in the fields. I wear mine proudly, though not necessarily at all times. I don't mind upsetting people in conservative workplace like settings, but I'm not fond of the endless parade of drooling men. Drooling ladies? Yeah, I'm down with that! But the men are just piggish nuisances.
• They're happy little things, eager to see the sun and run free in the fields. /logs off, goes for cold shower
• I wear mine proudly, though not necessarily at all times. I don't mind upsetting people in conservative workplace like settings, but I'm not fond of the endless parade of drooling men. Drooling ladies? Yeah, I'm down with that! But the men are just piggish nuisances. Besides being welcome by you, how is the "male gaze" different from a lesbian gaze? Seriously curious, not trolling. Yes, most men are pigs, I admit this, but I've been girlwatching with dyke friends, and they can be awful, um, blunt, in ways which I even found uncomfortable. Why have nipples become such a big deal lately? Is this still just the backlash happening?
• I'm pretty sensitive about being stared/leered at, but I don't give this issue a second thought. I've only maybe once or twice in my lifetime noticed a guy staring at my nipples, and both times they were drunk. There isn't much I can do about it anyway, padded bras don't come in my size as far as I know. Meh.
• From a physical standpoint, nipples can become erect from more than just sexual arousal (as in being cold), therefore, from my perspective as a guy, I don't see it as an issue that should be even remotely embarrassing. We'll ignore the fact that I'm more of an ass-man anyway. I doubt that if you were to wear your favorite top and your nipples were to become erect that a line of drooling, raving men would appear ready to diddle your nipples. It's a natural bodily occurrence that can be caused by several different things and shouldn't be too much of a concern. On a semi-related note, try popping a boner in public. That can be pretty embarassing for a guy...but I usually end up laughing about it later. Life shouldn't be that serious.
• why does this thread amuse me? :-) paging Dr. Ruth, cleanup in aisle monkeyfilter... heh
• I like to put lots o' thimbles in my bra - makes 'em nervous.
• We are sexual creatures. It doesn't matter what you cover up, someone will find something to leer at. Best to accept that, ignore it when necessary and enjoy it when convenient.
• If your nippies misbehave in public, do as I do; scold them! Don't be afraid of humiliating them in front of strangers, it's the only way they'll learn. If they continue to disobey, consider spankings.
• hot dang
• koko bwhaaaaaaaa!
• Anyway, if you do decide to not worry about it, I predict that you'll get some appreciative stares, some disapproving glares, and mostly indifference. I think you'll find that the disapproving glares are going to come from other women, and not men at all. You'll either get appreciative stares or indifference from men. I'm not fond of the endless parade of drooling men. Drooling ladies? Yeah, I'm down with that! Keep in mind that the attention-giver doesn't get to decide whether you find the attention welcome or not. As is often the case, desirable person gives attention = good thing, undesirable person gives attention = bad thing/creep/harassment (in the loosest uses of the word).
• Hey Rorschach, looking kinda hot today. Wanna do it till we can't do it no more?
• I second what Koko said! They are your nipples after all. The only way you will find that inner-nipple-confidence is to take control and not shy from the new-found self-confidence. Sounds like a decent asshole filter, to tell the truth. There you go! Perhaps another mysterious reason for perky nipples explained? Of course, there are times when a bit of self-restraint would probably be wise. For example, in NYC, I wouldn't wear perky nipples out in Central Park on the day of the Puerto Rico parade. And now, my only interesting nipple story: few years back, I was walking down Spring Street in SOHO, this tall lanky model came waltzing down the street sans top/bra. She looked extremely confident! Obviously she was basking in the attention... and perhaps didn't realize what a stir her public "outfit" would create. Two male gawkers hanging out the window of their respective car failed to pay attention to eachother and, BAM! A small pile-up envolving a few cars ensued... Be proud of them babies before they're all grown up and unattentive!
• That story was a come-on, wasn't it, you mad impetuous fool you, smt!
• *bats mah long eyelashes*
• *tries to drag eyes away from nipples long enough to make eye contact* *fails*
• 1. Do men notice? Yes. Most likely. 2. Do they automatically start thinking lewd or lavicious thoughts? Probably. If they weren't already. Sometimes, this is a protracted event, but most likely, the image is noted quickly, and the focus of attention is redirected elsewhere. That image may be recalled at a more convenient time, or it may not. But please understand something about the male brain when it comes to women's bodies. That part of the male brain which concerns itself with a woman's appearance is so completely pre-evolutionary and reptillian, that it is for all intents and purposes beyond our control. Every conscious thought in our heads may be screaming for us to direct our attention elsewhere, but there's always the possibility of the primal trump card, calling our eyes right back. A man's civility, politeness, or simple decency is directly related to how well he has learned to either ignore or overcome that reptillian impulse. This is no easy thing to do. So yes, perky nips will likely lead to lewd and lavicious thoughts. That those thoughts are created is beyond a man's control, but how those thoughts are dispensed with certainly is. (Personally, I try to contain thoughts of perky nips as long as I can, then release those thoughts during late-night showings of latter-year episodes of Friends, where Aniston's perky nips seem to abound on every show. The Beast is satisfied, I haven't embarassed anyone in public, we can all sleep easy.)
• nip-overload *head assplodes*
• I'm reminded of this movie (late 70's/early 80's?), of which I do not recall any of the plot. I vividly recall a scene where some guy is strapped into a chair in front of video display of sorts. A female doctor/researcher starts a test that tracks the movement of his eyeballs visually on the images displayed. It begins with an image of a sailboat. A cheezy red-laser-ish looking light shows that the man's eyes are "floating" all over the image. Alas, eventually an image of a bikin-clad female is displayed. The track shows that his eyes focus steadily between the nipple and "lower" regions. Then the camera pans to the guy's face, and he's all flustered that he has been busted for everyone to plainly see! For some reason, I remember the man to resemble David Hasselhoff! Please, no recursion... *google fails me*
• sugarmilktea, I'm not positive (it's been a while since I saw it) but I think the scene you're describing is from the 1981 movie Looker, starring Albert Finney.
• I think that's right, although I was also reminded of Clockwork Orange.
• I was reminded of every nipple I've ever seen.
• All the guys are saying they usually notice, but they'd have no idea if they were wrong. You can't be aware of yourself not noticing something. Anyways, my nipples are constantly hard or semi-hard. I had them peirced for about a year, and the whole time they hurt. Not terribly bad, but is still hurt until I finally gave up having them pierced anymore. I figure that maybe that constant stimulation is the cause, but I'm not sure. Regardless, I haven't noticed anyone noticing (but as above, I wouldn't be aware of me failing to notice). Most guys are going to believe they usually notice erect nipples, but most guys believe they can always spot a fake breast. They're wrong in the latter, and probably just as wrong in the former.
• nipples! SFW
• that is teh hot!!! I have a pierced one, and it's fine, reacts just like any other. (that information is probably far from teh hot, sorry)
• I'm self-conscious and embarrassed just reading about this.
• I find your coyness alluring. My ardour is enflamed. Let's do it till we can't do it no more.
• Bravo Christophine! I'm fairly certain that is the movie. You have spared me an afternoon of going crazy. Clockwork Orange, yes, that comes to mind too. Interesting to note, both movies are noted for milestones in special effects: Clockwork = first to make use of Dolby sound technology Looker = first to use a human CGI character /offtopicnipple
• I've been on birth control for about a year and a half, and one of the side effects has been to make my breasts noticeably larger (yay, side effects!) I've noticed, lately, that a lot of men around me have trouble making eye contact. (My doctor, for instance. We have these really great, interesting political conversations whenever I go in, and he never once looks at my head.) When I was younger, this would have embarrassed me to no end, but now I realize that sometimes it's just how we're wired. Most of these men (including my doc) treat me like an equal, so I'm not bothered. The ones who *do* treat me like an object get yelled at and pitied, because they're probably morons, and they'll definitely never get a chance to know me *or* my breasts. So I guess my advice is to try and stop worrying about it, or enjoy the power of the reaction you get. If your nipples hurt from being rubbed by your shirt or bra, by all means cover them. If not, just let them do their thing.
• Watch out meredithea, here comes the drooling kitfisto...
• they'll definitely never get a chance to know me *or* my breasts. And that'd be the worst crime of all!
• Possum nipple warmers for those who are cold. slightly nsfw?
• I didn't know possums needed their nipples warmed.
• Wiring. Yes. It can suck sometimes. /inside a very wired male's head Oh... is that cute girl from PR. Oh my... I'd never noticed she's got such nice boobs... oh, wait, here she comes, STOP LEERING, you dope... What? Oh, hi, yes, I'm ******, yeah, I think so... want that file, on this CD? (Oh, her blouse's neckline is so inviting... STOP STOP) Sure, no problem, come to my desk... (ah, what a nice hip swinging... I'm sure those hips could breed a big, big child...) Here, let me get it and brun it out for you... (oh, she's leaning down... DON'T LOOK AT HER CLEAVAGE!) (Oh, she smells nice)... there it is, anytime... oh, what? yes, we also do that here, in this department... (Oh, her nipples are visible! Is she interested in me? Is she cold? Are they fake? LOOK TO HER EYES!) Yes, of course, as long as they send the info on time, there will be no problem... (what nice eyes... and she's smiling! Did I shave today? She's blushing! Oh boy... I think I'm getting a bon... DON'T LOOK TO HER BREASTS!) Sigh. The curse of the flesh.
• If only it were that mature and sophisticated, Flagpole.
• There is that peculiar mixture of pride and shame that comes with carrying outdoor plumbing, isn't there?
• "Flagpole." Yeah.
• Padded bras? Women are wearing them to hide their nipples? *scratches head* But we burned our bras back in the '60's so women could finally be free in and with their bodies. Did I miss something? I hate bras and only own one for emergencies. I use camisoles or layer two tank tops as my only nod to dicretion. If I see a man staring, they quickly divert when asked "what ya' staring at?" Works for me. And I'm now size 'menopausal generous.'
• I always notice (or think I do, at least). I wouldn't say I think anything; my first reaction is "that's kinda hot," followed almost always and almost immediately by "maybe she's cold" (more as an intentionally cheesy self-joke than an actual thought), then I forget about it. Flagpole's internal monologue is pretty accurate. I see an average of 2-3 "hottest girls ever" during each commute. I'm ensorcelled by each one (sometimes accompanied by my walking into a tree or door) until I can't see her anymore, then I forget about her until the next one comes along. It's all wiring.
• Besides being welcome by you, how is the "male gaze" different from a lesbian gaze? Yes, most men are pigs, I admit this, but I've been girlwatching with dyke friends, and they can be awful, um, blunt, in ways which I even found uncomfortable. One difference would be that guys want to do something to the woman in question as if they granted favors or something while the women want to do something with each other. It's more egalitarian.
• Oh, I think most men would gladly do "to" or "with" indiscriminately. Which makes us the gender more open to a wider variety of experience. Or something.
• let's all do it till we can't do it no more.
• *pantses kitfisto*
• What is 'pantses'? Would I like it?
• Oh, you'll like it.
• Something tells me I wouldn't. I will become the model of decorum and mutual respect from now on.
• Pantsing = the removal of ones pants, in public, by a second party. Often the pants are then tossed out of reach, or strung up on a flagpole. Whether or not you'd like it depends on your feelings toward the second party, and public nudity. Please refer to this thread for examples of pantsing hijinx.
• Well in that case, I recant my former statement as to my future behaviour! Anyone with the grit to go anywhere near my pants deserves the George Cross, never mind mutual respect.
• Please don't put kitfisto's pants on poor Flagpole! What has he done to deserve that?!
• What *hasn't* he done?? *pantses everyone in this thread, creates giant pants ball, rolls off into the sunset*
• *pities Koko for her unavoidable and imminent passing due to close proximity to so many monkey pants* *enjoys the breeze*
• The gaseous fumes are propelling my giant pantsball to speeds up to 150KPH. I'm taking this thing to Cuba!
• What a majestic sight! *wipes tear from eye* I'm allright, I'm allright, it's just the fumes, honest...
• We hates the hobbitses, we does. And their short pantses.
• CubaMexico
• *flashes a perky nipple* *runs*
• Ai Chihuahua!!!
• Giant pantsball sighted over sky near Ottawa!
• But then again, I think lewd and lacivious thoughts...replacing my spark plugs. Squidranch: Perhaps a few less lewd and lacivious thoughts would keep you from having to replace those spark plugs that often? GrandMa confesses that she had a boob reduction several years ago, and the doc hiked those babies up under my chin. Gravity has since taken its toll, and I can now tell if someone is looking me in the eye again. Correction, StoryBored. Great FLAMING pantsball.
• Hot damn, this thread makes my nipples tingle.
• And so, the big ball advanced and threatened the very existence of the human race...
• Pa-pa-pa-pants baaaaalll, pa-pa-pa-pants baaaaallll! *sung to the tune of the Superman theme*
• Those padded bras should be rolled up and away as well. Liberate those nipples and whatever.
• MonkeyFilter: GREAT FLAMING PANTSBALL
• The Bra Ball It's not flaming though...yet.
• Something compels me to return to this thread, even though there are no nipples. It must be the power of Christ. That's it, the power of Christ compels me. *head spins around*
• Your mother sews socks that smell.
• Wow, islander- just wow. 'course those'd be all AAs.
• See? This really is what we did with them, and lots of other things as well. Why would anything so uncomfortable be forever redesigned to entrap our flesh?
• Great site, dxlifer. Thanks everyone for your .02. I'm going to try just not caring and wearing whatever I want, and see how that works for me.
• Like everything else, I guess it'll just take a bit of time to get used to, J. Doe. Don't worry too much if you do feel uncomfortable or the need to put on a padded bra from time to time (^_^)
• Let's all...oh, never mind...
• I saw somethig else on the week-end that really startled me. A young woman wearing an off-the-shoulder top with apparently no obvious means of support, until one was close enough to see transparent poly-mayterial bra straps. It did not look very comfortable. Left me to wonder if transparent plastic thongs are next. Perhaps we should have a no bra day for all the monkeys so everyone can share equally in the freedom. It's legal here for women to be in public with bare breasts.
• I work at a factory. No way I'm coming to work in anything less than a sturdy bra, thick t-shirt and oversized sweatshirt. And maybe a parka. But if we're talking a no-bra Saturday or Sunday, you're on.
• I'm not wearing mine now...
• I can see your dirty pillows.
• Hands up if you've read Carrie recently.
• Carrie? H'uh? That one went over my cute little ears, trac. What did she use for a bra?
• That was, I think, the second reference to Stephen King's Carrie from Koko in the last few days. At least, I'm pretty sure that's where "dirty pillows" comes from. And I don't think she wore a bra, unless it came combined with a chastity belt.
• Yes, Carrie ... I haven't read or seen it in years, it just frequently comes to mind for some reason. Especially the "dirty pillows" line. My best friend used to say it to me any time I wore a dress.
• Mmmmm...dirty pillows...
• Oh. What a nasty way to denigrate the female body. I used to like Stephen King, back in the early '80's. Not Carrie, though. Last Stand was my favourite.
• It's a line spoken by Carrie's mother, who's deeply religious and mentally ill. IMO, it's funny because it references that extremist mentality. I think you mean The Stand.
• Oh yeah, that was that Custard fellow. *nod of apology.
• Not to blow dust off an old topic, but...