June 03, 2005

• How about door #3? It will stagger on. Matt will keep applying bandaids, there will be weeks when it does better and weeks when it does worse, but it will kind of keep on ticking along until Matt finally loses interest, at which point someone else will volunteer to take it over; they won't actually be prepared for the sheer massivity of the job; it will get worse and worse and finally, the lights will just go out. /has spent too much time on the internets & watched this progression before.
• The inspiration for MoFi has not been well lately, with daily outages. ... ye mean MeFi? /easily confused
• MoFi has nothing to do with MeFi. Inspiration, perhaps, but not in it's reason for existance day to day. It's just the code, really. I dislike Mefi because it is full of pedants, frequently dull, always repetitious (you can predict thread responses within the first few posts in most cases), and bogged down by egos. Mofi may be lightweight in many respects, but it is certainly more fun (thus more of the Buddha-nature) and swings widely between posts about nothing at all or blather to serious, hard discussions about tendentious issues. Mefi is a coffee-klatch limited in its focus, Mofi is more a coffee shop frequented by a wide variety of loons. I predict MoFi will go where it wants. I sit by the river selling water.
• In the sense that MeFi = "the inspiration for MoFi", I believe.
• er, that was supposed to be clarification for bees.
• Maybe. I wonder about the big redesign competition from late last year? Maybe the redesign and recode is happening (or I'm just an eternal optimist). Or maybe Matt is just happy with all the $5 baby gifts and will pack it in. Yes, I'm talking about MeFi.... that's where the "inspiration" link in the original post goes. Chyren... I know what you mean about the limited scope of MeFi. There are those who will beat down posts as trivial, but will make 264 comments on a thread about some obscure comic book superhero. I paid my $5 to Matt cuz I thought MeFi was to die for. I got a free MoFi account and haven't used it much. But there is a much lighter mood here which is refreshing. Maybe I had to go through a MeFi phase before I could properly appreciate MoFi? MeChat is also lighter than the original, but some of the MeFites that hammer the conformity aspect are posting there as well.
• I dread the day in which the lights will just go out for MoFi. Sometimes I look at the members counter on our lovely FP with a nervous twitch. I can only imagine the teeming masses that will horde to MeFi... *shudder* Then again, I'm most likely biased, having found MeFi before MoFi - no comparison IMO
• Great! I completely screwed that up... swap MoFi and MeFi above... *bangs head into desk violently*
• in both instances - damnit!
• That's okay, I read what you meant, not what you said. I won't add to the member count; I've been here a while. But I may darken the site with my posts a little more frequently. I noticed on MeChat:

  MetaChat is a place for MeFites to chatter and discuss topics that may not belong on MetaTalk, and to get together to whine and commiserate when the main site is down.

  I added the bold. I think that second bit was the primary motivation for launching the site.
• What the inestimable Chyren said. Especially about being more of Buddha-nature. There are moments when I think, perhaps I should return to Mefi? Then I read it, and those thoughts go away. *assumes lotus, levitates slightly, eyes radiate a lambent green light*
• So it was.
• and to get together to whine and commiserate when the main site is down. As opposed to whining and commiserating when the site is up, I suppose.
• Band-aids applied until Pepsi buys it from matt.
• You know, I like all three sites. I guess that makes me a dabbler, or an amateur like those lovely Victorian gentleman/farmer/scientist/doctors? I value them for different things: I like mefi for the politics & the arguing & some of the really bright & funny people who hang out there. Mofi is a community to me & I feel like the people here are my friends. Mecha, obviously, hasn't been around as long, but it's also funny & snarky & kind of entertaining.
• MoFi will endure. I for one only go back to the blue side to check MeTa and see who's yelling about who posting what and how often. Makes me giggle. In a "I'm sitting in my living room laughing at a computer by myself and I'm sorta embarrassed but not really" kinda way.
• It's strangely ironic that I found my way into this thread via a link in a MeChat thread. I agree - I like all 3 for varying and changing reasons (plus viewropa too!).
• To me, the only good threads on MeTa are the ones that result in meltdowns. AAAAA+!!!11! Great meltdown!
• MeFi's mean and snarky. It kinda reminds me of usenet back when I was trying out the web in Junior High. It was like a pit of snakes! Junior High and usenet. heh. MoFi is like a beach, a nude beach, with umbrella drinks and backrubs and flying poop.
• That's when the giggles evolve into all-out cackles and the neighbors start staring...
• *passes hikikomori the SPF 50, tops off her colada*
• When you can't connect to JRun server, you can't connect to JRun server, that's all. Now there's MetaChat, where MeFi goes to hang out when the blue is down. It's like a MeFi iPod fannypack, and funn(i)er than MeFi anyway. Far as the blue, I go there when there's a "big" discussion or just to cruise the links, but only on a read-only basis, because Matt will get $4.95 from me when he pries it from my living, durian-stinky fingers. I'd rather send the money to Tracicle*, because for one thing, here the climate is tropical and there are bananas, and for another, monkeys are just as smart as the MeFi crew and ten times more friendly. Then, too, MoFi's not a fannypack, nor does it need one. (No offense intended to MeCha!)(Nor, for that matter, to MeFi. It all just is what it is, Om Om Om.) /me like monkeys mo' betta! anyway! one! one! all one! /paging Dr. Bronner *Not that I've ever done this, but I surely would.
• I have to admit it's more than a little disappointing that all these people paid their five dollars and all they got was this lousy J run error. .. Somehow I was under the impression all those hat passes were to help financially address those issues. And yes, MeFi does have way to much snark sometimes. Which appeals to my sometimes snarky naychuh . . .
• I think what most interests me is the interactions between these sites (MoFi, MeFi, MeCha, #mefi irc, etc.) I find that I act differently in the different venues. And I don't always like me on MeFi. A real-life parallel occurred last month when we had house guests from my family, my wife's family, and out-of-town friends in town for my son's high school graduation. I'm basically the same person with each of those groups, but I act subtlely different with each. Having them all there at once was kind of stressful.
• There are those who will beat down posts as trivial, but will make 264 comments on a thread about some obscure comic book superhero. Amen to that. I am a relative new comer to MeFi (member since 2002), and was addicted to it for a couple of years, but lately I have grown weary of the emphasis on posters' ideological consistency over actual meaning or enjoyable conversation in the blue. The grey is just insufferable. The result is seeing the same conversation over and over and over again. When Matt opened up the rolls last November, I had hope it would change, but lately it's been just as bad as ever. I still go there (when it's up) to see what's up and make the occasional wry comment, but more and more, I find myself checking out MoFi.
• *sips colada* *winks at Fes* Thank you, kind sir.
• What the hell is this fabled JRun server anyway? I was able to figure out by some Google searches (and very cryptic Macromedia promos) that it is a Java server of some kind, but I thought they run mostly PHP.
• I think we should quit worrying about MeFi and do our own monkey things, like CD exchanges. MeFi will take care of itself; as sorry as I feel for Matt sometimes when I wander over to MeFi, it's not my/our (MoFi's) problem. What I worry about is mygothlaundry's scenario happening to MoFi. Having been a mailing list admin for a group signficantly smaller than MoFi, I know the burnout that admins/cruise directors can suffer from. It's one reason I like to sit and think if I'm annoyed instead of posting--I don't want to rain on tracicle's parade. It may mean I post less, but it keeps MoFi less poo-ful, and I like it that way.
• mk1gti- As a $5 MeFi member, I don't regret it at all, even if it was always just a pyramid scheme on Matt's part. I coveted MeFi membership for years, then finally got in. It didn't revolutionize my life, make me the life of the party or reduce my weight (I have lost 60 lb. recently, but Mefi had nuthin' to do with it). It was kind of a letdown. I hope there really is a new MeFi ready to be rolled out, but while the down times would be reduced and the ponies prettier, the people will be the same.
• Are you guys gonna really TALK about obscure comic book superheroes, or are you just teasing me?
• When Matt opened up the rolls last November, I had hope it would change, but lately it's been just as bad as ever. As a $5 member, I was hoping for that too. Many members looked forward to the new blood freshening up the place. But then several of the oldtimers ridiculed and otherwise abused new posters for making posts that were not in the typical MeFi mold.
• No Stan, that's what MeFi is for. It's also the OSX Tiger help desk.
• MeFi sucks arse. MoFi is a MeFi clone, right?
• Doohickie: "It didn't revolutionize my life.." So you really had big expectations huh? I'm curious - why would you think that it would bestow anything other than the ability to comment? Did you think that commenting would make you somehow more attracted to the place and give you a sense of belonging rather than just linkslut voyeuring?? (truly curious)
• I guess I am fortunate. I lost interest in the site some time ago so that now its dying gasps move me very little. Sort of like meeting an old lover for coffee only to discover he has gone to seed. Bloated, dull, and more self-absorbed than ever, you secretly congratulate yourself on getting out while the getting was good.
• Good point, Doohickie, I was hoping that the 'new blood' might help to freshen things up a bit, but I found myself getting sucked into free-flinging snarkiness that wouldn't happen here in Mo-Fi (and thank Tracicle for that). I also don't really dig on Me-Fi members jumping on someone for not fitting the rigid 'do it our way' Me-Fi mold.
• To me, the only good threads on MeTa are the ones that result in meltdowns. Oh god, I love going over there and watching the drama. It's like a soap opera, but more contrived and with less logic.
• I'm not sure, peacay. As an outsider, I saw some really cool, edgy conversations going on, and I wanted to be a part of that. As it turned out, my attempts at being cool & edgy are generally ridiculed. Apparently, I'm just not that witty. I've found I'm better at being a self-deprecating court jester, as long as I don't assume I'm naturally funny. But someone compared me to quonsar the other day which makes me worried.
• self-deprecating court jester... does that qualify me as a good Monkey?
• Wasn't it someone here who said: "MeFi goes down more often than a two-dollar whore on lumberjack payday."? Or did I dream that? Because I thought that that was right succinct but if I dreamed it, I really am going to finally have to get a life.
• P'raps you shouldn't worry too much Doohickie - everyone gets heat there over time. Thick skin's more the entry fee than the $5. The old addage of "don't take it too personally" is maybe trite but it's something to remember. I feel greatly inadequate and stupid and unwitty a lot so don't sweat it like you're alone.
• That sounds like Chy.
• i was INTENSELY lobbying to get into mefi directly to matt for years. now i never go there anymore. love it here. whatever happens there, i care not, i've found my home. *group hug*
• The story of JRun Server is a tragic one. You see, it starts with a bang, and ends with a whimper...
• But someone compared me to quonsar the other day which makes me worried. I would take that as a compliment if I were you. And personally, I value your presence on MeFi. But there are more bananas here, so I can understand sitting here on the beach, soaking up the sun. Say, somebody hand me a caipirinha, willya?
• Little Durian *coughcough* assuming you haven't already (^_^) Don't really have much to say about this matter. Mefi's become rather irrelevant to me now. *tries to get into lotus position, gets leg stuck halfway*
• I dig it here. I may not comment often, but I enjoy the simian ambiance. I too "coveted MeFi membership for years," and in '02 or so I bought it. Then I just . . . didn't use it. I found I didn't want to be part of the neverending bitchfest. ("Ah ah aaaaah, ah ah aaaaah, ah ah aaaaah . . .") I contributed once or twice, mostly on a thread about Egyptian archaeology, and by now I expect my account's been deactivated for unuse. Since my political views are out of sync with theirs, I didn't feel like inviting a huge pile-on. As my father says, "Don't stir shit to see if it stinks." I seem to see a lot of that in MeFi. Nevertheless, I still enjoy going over there for the links, the good FPPs, and to see the occasional thought-provoking argument thread. And of course the more than occasional drama.
• I'm with Sidey on this one. Although as a robot, group hugs aren't really my thing. But I appreciate the sentiment. (Curse my metal body!)
• MoFi has nothing to do with MeFi. Tell that to the MoFi RSS feed which still describes itself as "A metafilter spawn for lurkers waiting to register."
• I seem to remember that simile, knickers, but it wasn't me. I can't remember who said it. It seems my vulgarity preceeds me. I signed my new lease today and actually had to make sure I didn't say "fuck" at any point in front of the property manager. (unless you were responding to peacay's comment & implying I am inadequate, stupid & unwitty, which I personally have always believed to be true)
• You mean fagbrush was right, Chy?
• Everytime someone says something snarky about Mefi, it looks like what some mefi people say is completely true.

  MonkeyFilter is that group of kids that was never cool lucky enough to get into the "in" group, so they formed their own group just to talk about how superior they are and how lame the "in" crowd is while doing everything possible to replicate the "in" crowds behavior.

  Do you want to be that? Because it's getting close. Neither mefi or mofi are superior to each other, any more than apples are superior or inferior to bananas. If you don't care about mef, stop talkng about it already. Me, I'm heading over once it's up because there were some threads I was following. And then maybe I'll look for something to post here.
• i was INTENSELY lobbying to get into mefi directly to matt for years. now i never go there anymore. love it here. whatever happens there, i care not, i've found my home. Funny, that's exactly what I was doing. Bastard never answered my emails. Then there was that day when he opened the new memberships for a few hours, and I missed the window. I *almost* cried. But now I've found my internets family, and I'm a happy monkey. Now where's Fes with my colada. *sigh* You can't get good help these days.
• Fagbrush? er.. sorry, don't remember the name. ;)
• "Everytime someone says something snarky about Mefi.." I'm reminded of the Larson cartoon with the mammal and the dinosaur carving graffiti on the rock & crossing each others' out: "mammals rule/dinosaurs rule..." :)
• Have I mentioned that I like cheese?
• jb is right, of course ... to clarify, I really have nothing against MeFi (although it's true, I was never cool enough to be in the "in" crowd), it's just I like this group better. And I only have time for one web community.

• But someone compared me to quonsar the other day which makes me worried. I would take that as a compliment if I were you.

  I'm not so sure about that.
• I also like cheese.
• Netcraft confirms it, MetaFilter is dying I just heard some sad news on the Internet - collaborative blog and discussion forum MetaFilter was officially shut down today. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the MoFi community will miss it - even if you didn't enjoy the site, there's no denying its contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.
• one Brasil Especiale for Mr. Hat, one colada (sotto voce: "Extra rum, my dear, the way you enjoy it!") and a selection (extra large, since Mr. Chyren will be sharing) from the cheese cart for Ms. Koko. Poop flinging begins at 4:30, right after long island iced tea. *winks back twice at hikikomori, not-so-surreptitiously eyes bikini, rakish grin follows getting busted* *returns silently to Mr. Chyren with an unasked-for Lagavulin, neat, little bowl of ice on the side, withdraws equally silently*
• Good lord!

• I just heard some sad news on the Internet - collaborative blog and discussion forum MetaFilter was officially shut down today.

  Really?
• Umm...Doohickie - I guess there's the chance that quonsar has been reading this thread. In which case his comment in MeCha could be taken as ironic humour, given what you'd written here and the comparison to him. *Think about it.*
• Truly and for true...
• Thenku Chyren and Miss Hiki for your on-spot daffynitions: MonkeyFilter: a coffee shop frequented by a wide variety of loons. MonkeyFilter: like a beach, a nude beach, with umbrella drinks and backrubs and flying poop. Perhaps we need to preserve this also, for those who may be immigrating later: MonkeyFilter: I don't want to rain on tracicle's parade. and finally, Immlass says it succinctly: MonkeyFilter: less poo-ful, and I like it that way.
• Why are we so concerned with MeTa? They're nice people and all, but really, why should we care? Let's try and get this idea through our heads once and for all: We are not MeTa. MeTa could dissolve tomorrow back into the spongy pulp of Matt's brain from whence it originated, but we will still be here. Or not. The two are not somehow innately connected. Our existence is not predicated on the survival of MeTa. I know some of you guys are dual members and all - great, fine. But I, for one, would rather what happens on or to MeTa stay on MeTa.
• Ohhh, dmnuts, that sounds like some kind of FC reference. Just for giggles I went to check this third site of which you speak and found this: Why does MonkeyFilter continually retreat toward and take pleasure in references to projectile feces? I understand the genesis of the site and the fact that such a reference, as a joke, may have been funny for a couple of minutes, but if, indeed, MonkeyFilter users belong to a polite, earnest, intelligent community -- as they all seem to claim -- why do they keep making poo jokes? posted by goatsetubgirlknifebutt 03 June | 11:02 Now THAT you've got to love, posted by someone with goatse, tubgirl, and butt in their name. How kewl can you be?what a dork
• Spaceman came down to answer some things. The world gathered round from paupers to kings. I'll answer your questions I'll answer them true. I'll show you the way. You'll know what to do. Who is wrong and who is right? MeFi on the left, MonkeyFilter on the right? The spaceman he answered, you no longer mind. I've opened your eyes, you're now color blind— You're Welcome.
• Don't slip on the nanner peel. >-
• Ohhh, dmnuts, that sounds like some kind of FC reference. Just for giggles I went to check this third site of which you speak and found this: Why does MonkeyFilter continually retreat toward and take pleasure in references to projectile feces? I understand the genesis of the site and the fact that such a reference, as a joke, may have been funny for a couple of minutes, but if, indeed, MonkeyFilter users belong to a polite, earnest, intelligent community -- as they all seem to claim -- why do they keep making poo jokes? posted by goatsetubgirlknifebutt 03 June | 11:02 Now THAT you've got to love, posted by someone with goatse, tubgirl, and butt in their name. How kewl can you be?what a dork
• wha happened?
• /invokes the power of the Worshipping Monkey. A mini-sized one appears.
• Stan the Bat: Moon Knight was a severely underutilized Marvel property with tons of potential that needs to be revitalized and brought to the screen. Discuss.
• I slapped my arse on the wife.
• Yeah, I remember Moon Knight- he had a cowl and white robes, and a sideways crescent moon emblem, and I think he threw little pointy crescent-moon shaped, uh, batarangs. He was pretty much a Batman knockoff, except without enough sense to have a dark-colored uniform so's to be able to sneak up on people in the dark. What else you got?
• We're watching you. We are always watching you, we have always watched you, and we will always be watching you. And we have deadly banana guns and gargantuan, diabolical poop-flinging machines.
• People are odd. Many at MeFi are fascinated with their own perceived ability to snark someone to the ground. There seems to be little understanding that one can only really measure the impact of insults when it is done in person. The impact is detected by speed of retort, reaction of others, body language and tone of the insulted, and so forth. We can only imagine the effectiveness of our insults online. Occassionally someone will chime in to verify our hopes that we have struck an effective dagger, but that is really nothing more than the opinion of one or two people out of a few hundred. Perhaps the rest are just rolling their eyes and are not interested in commenting. Snarkiness is a fun part of all of this, but it is hardly the objective. The objective is to take something out of it all that one finds to be useful. I do, and I am not a poo-flinging fan. But the poo-flinging doesn't bother me, either. It is just there, and I focus on what interests me. Doohickie remarked that he/she tries to be funny but is not appreciated. You don't know that, doohickie. It is much cooler (especially on MeFi) to mock attempts at humor than it is to say how funny you think someone is. I don't run into that problem, as I have been certified as "Genuinely Funny" by many reputable institutions.
• I'd almost forgotten about good old Moon Knight. I did a google search and shouldn't have been surprised to find a Moon Knight message board, for people who never forgot, and feel the need to discuss the character more frequently.
• Bwa-ha-ha-ha bernockle!!!!!!!! )))))))
• I thought it was the Ankh, not crescent moons. Ankhs are cool. And Moon Knight didn't NEED to hide in the shadows like the bat. He wanted the baddies to KNOW he was coming. "That's right, I'm coming! And THOTH IS COMIN' WITH ME!" Let's see...how about the late 80s / early 90s obscure series that I think should have been bigger, Strikeforce: Morituri? Anyone else feel free to jump in here. I've been out of the loop for a while.
• >>goatsetubgirlknifebutt OK, the goatse i got, the tubgirl i got, somebody clue me in on the knifebutt.
• You DO NOT want to know SideDish.
• As a reader of both, here's the thing. Mefi doesn't assume it's a big happy family. It's just a website that people post stuff on. I can go there, read some of it, skip the parts that annoy me, snicker at the drama (my favorite part!), and go read something else. Mofi is, as elaborated here, a big happy family and/or an incredibly tight group of close friends, and as such I don't really feel it's proper to read it casually. Much like someone at another table butting in to your conversation. It's a private thing, internet-based though it may be. This thread clarified some things for me; it was quite interesting. Thanks.
• Doohickie: What the fuck are you trying to do here? You Start this thread in Monkeyfilter, then you link it to this thread in MetaChat, and then you start this thread in MetaTalk about both of them. It seems to me you're trying to start a MeFi vs MoFi snark war...and succeeding.
• No. He's trying to destroy the intarweb. Watch out for those singularities.
• Kill! Kill! Kill! Kill!
• NERD FIGHT! NERD FIGHT!
• FINISH HIM! (Or her, whatever.)
• BET ON OUTCOME!
• "This thread clarified some things for me" Wish I could say the same.
• Right, now that we've got people crossposting across three different sites, when do we get naked, have lots of nasty group sex, and drink the koolaid? Or did I miss that part? Damnit, I always miss that part.
• mmmm. clarified butter.
• Ghee your hair smells terrific
• Simply defined, clarified butter is unsalted butter that has the milk solids and water removed so all that remains is pure liquid golden-yellow butterfat. food pron.
• goetter, BWHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
• Veddy witty indeed.
• ooo! how subtle of you, chy.
• Nicely Rigged.
• In accordance with Internets Law #657.89, as no one has asked my opinion, I shall render it thus: We have MoFi because of MeFi. (at this point, it is customary for you all to stroke your beards and mumble agreeably.) MeFi is/was/can-be the bomb. I love the investigative threads where people find out crazy minutiae about a given meme/hoax/etc. And the train wrecks are fun. Plus you've got the MeFi all-stars like crunchland, amberglow and jonmc, etc. Then thers the S@L guy and his crew to keep it unreal. Then there's that wretched MayorCurley . . . yes we shall never forget that vile incarnation . . . /SideshowBob But I always thought the best part was when registration was closed for so long, making it a true closed-loop community if you will. That's when the best arguments got around. Opening the door lets in so many sock puppets and others who may not appreciate the subtle difference between MeFi and Fark. Sometimes I think it'd be cool to close registration here and make it a gated playground of sorts. Which would spawn another 'Fi presumably. Etc. Fes, somone seems to have put one of those fly-in-an-ice-cube things in my vodka, can i get another please?
• jes' funnin' ya there mayor ;)
• Vavava voom, oh, you kid MonkeyFilter: We're watching you. We are always watching you, we have always watched you, and we will always be watching you. MonkeyFilter: We have deadly banana guns and gargantuan, diabolical poop-flinging machines. MonkeyFilter: NERD FIGHT! NERD FIGHT!

• Umm...Doohickie - I guess there's the chance that quonsar has been reading this thread. In which case his comment in MeCha could be taken as ironic humour, given what you'd written here and the comparison to him.

  Could be, peacay. Who knows? I was on #mefi irc yesterday and he spent the whole evening pretty much saying the same thing. I've been his punching bag lately. Whether he means it in the cute, give little brother a noogie kind of way or he is being malicious I can't tell. To be honest, I try to ignore quonsar as much as possible since engaging him is rarely productive.

  Doohickie: What the fuck are you trying to do here? You Start this thread in Monkeyfilter, then you link it to this thread in MetaChat, and then you start this thread in MetaTalk about both of them. It seems to me you're trying to start a MeFi vs MoFi snark war...and succeeding.

  Rocket88- Well, let's see..... When MeCha first started, someone idly wondered whether it had been mentioned on MoFi. So on May 20, I made a post here mentioning it. Having done so, and in light of the continuing JRun errors on MeFi, I thought it would be good to do an update (this thread). I realize this is a different community with (mostly) different people, but this place did spring from MeFi, at least in concept, so I thought there might be some interest. Then on MeCha, someone said

  When Metatalk comes back up, if someone links to this thread and the mofi thread about this thread, they will have completed the much coveted and sought-after trifecta of meta-ness, and all the riches of the heavens will be bestowed upon them.

  I called dibs and made the post. That's all; no more thought to it than that. And I still don't have no damned riches. I'm not trying to start a fight; honest. But I have learned a lot about all three sites in the process. I'm sorry if anyone was put off by my tactics. I tried to be as transparent as possible.
• And for the record as to whether I am he or a she, here's a picture of me. You can decide for yourselves.
• I believe you have my stapler?
• Sorry. Here you go.
• But, but, but ... that's my stapler ... they took my stapler ... one day I'll show them ... outta burn this place down ... no one touches my red stapler.
• Oh... I had both of them. Here's yours too.
• are you my mummy?
• No. Get bent.
• Long after Uncle MeFi is gone, will MoFi live on? No. If I were a betting type, I would bet that MoFi will die first. Simply because derezzing three thousand some logins is morally preferable to silencing twenty five thousand little voices yearning to be heard. Also, a big userbase is good from an ad revenue standpoint. My prediction is that all the various 'Fis will stagger along until blogs go the way of personal homepages and webrings. I would rejoice in anticipation, except I know that something far more annoying will have taken the place of blogs.
• Okay, well someone hasn't been watching Doctor Who.
• The Empty Child and The Doctor Dances were easily some of the best stuff that Doctor Who has ever produced, but I was bummed to note that they're bringing back the ridiculous Slitheen and the rift in next week's episode. Ah well, it wouldn't be Who if it didn't piss off the fans now and then, would it?
• I've managed to miss half the episodes - my flat in Glasgow doesn't have TV. The nuclear-power-plant-blowing-up Cardiff idea does sound interesting, though. As well as admirable.
• I haven't seen Doctor Dances yet! *cries, wails* We're faithfully watching along on the CBC but we're a week and a bit behind. SUXORZ. Don't spoil me here or I killz joo. Have you seen the BBC's new bad wolf site?
• Oh, and I really didn't like Empty Child - I felt like all the characterization was off - but I've heard DD makes it all better. One hopes.
• I have been watching! Just not readiong this thread fast enough. are you my mummy? That line was the creepiest thing on Doctor Who - up there with the zombie-mannekins in the basement from the first episode (which really freaked me out). Great set of episodes. I, too, am annoyed at more Slitheen - only a few more episodes of Christopher Eccleson (my favorite Doctor) and they are wasted on the Slitheen? But they will be making more great Cardiff shoutouts. There needs to be more Cardiff in our world media.
• BBF - Bittorrent is your friend (I'm in the States). If you feel guilty, buy the DVDs later (I'm going to, as soon as they are released in Region 1. Hopefully it will be through BBC America or CBC - A&E is terrible).
• Now I'm pissed off that I've missed half of the series. I lap up stuff like that Bad Wolf thing. ...Anyone know where I can get some Bit-torrents?
• Brainpissjynx.
• Has the new Who been shown in the US? If so, why have I missed it? Why did no one tell me? Whhhhhyyyyyy? when I was in daycare, we got to watch Dr. Who if we were good, but old 50s shows like Father Knows Best if we were bad. Blechy.
• Space didn't pick it up, so Americans no get DW. Haw-haw! Even the Aussies finally started airing it two weeks ago...no, I shouldn't laugh, because I'm behind as it is by waiting on CBC and it's killing me. (Apparently the Space channel decided it wasn't something they wanted to air. Uh, yeah.)
• Doctor Who (2005) hasn't been shown in the US yet, to the best of my knowledge. I just get the taped eps from a couple of old friends in London, in exchange for eps of 24 and (formerly) The West Wing. I bet you can get them through the p2p networks also, but I am clueless about bittorrent, etc. Maybe Space didn't want it because Aliens of London and World War Three were pretty openly making fun of the Iraq war? "Massive weapons of destruction that can be deployed in 45 seconds." That gave me fits.
• Blaise- Right you are. Didn't watch the old Dr. Who, don't plan on watching the new episodes. Nothing against it; I just don't watch too much television.
• Didn't watch the old Dr. Who, don't plan on watching the new episodes. EX-TER-MI-NATE!!!!!
• First he tries to pit sites against each other, or make us look like fools on MeFi, or something ridiculous that I found extremely annoying. And then he's all "I don't watch much television la di da" and interrupts our lovely little Who-love-in that we managed to scavenge out of the dregs of this thread. Harrumph. /note: writer not nearly as grumpy as post may sound, except maybe about the first part.
• Sorry... Wasn't really trying to pit the sites against each other; apparently that just happens naturally. Now I've got everyone pissed at me. I'm gonna have to find some other site to screw up in I guess.
• Y'know, TenaciousPettle, I actually have a pretty decent sized stack of Moon Knight comix in my basement, buried in some sort of box. Pretty sure I have them still at any rate. I made a halfhearted stab at collecting for a little while, my brother was into it and Moon Knight seemed like the only cool-looking comic he didn't already have. The dude had a cool crescent moon shaped 'copter. The blade was in the center, see, which I've always wondered about - would it really have generated enough lift to offset the large weight of the body of the helicopter, seeing as all that body was on one side of the rotor, with only a thin little tail to balance it out? Plus how many other comic book dudes got to fight with Anubis?
• I did.
• NERD FIGHT! *hands Doohickie a switchblade* (Seriously though, no one from MeFi, MetaChat or MoFi should take themselves or any of this goofiness too seriously. Lots and lots of MeFi'tes - myself included, and probably the majority of MeFi - love/like MoFi. I've certainly poached a few links from some Monkeys. There isn't a fight. There isn't any real elitism - except maybe from a select few, but that select few are obviously assholes - and they come from both servers. It's all silliness. Try and have some fun with it.)
• loquacious: I'm trying to have fun with it... really I am....
• Nah, not really pissed, just found it a sort of annoying trick. So long as you don't try it again, you'll be all right, partner. You'll be even better if you watch some Doctor Who. /I got nothing on the comic book discussion, sorry.
• Paraguay
• HILARIOUS. Very inspired. But snarkfest... blah. I count one snarky comment in Meta, and it doesn't even border on the serious. Can't MoFi just have a version of Meta called MonkeyLove where everyone gets to air their insecurities en masse? The love... it suffocates...
• All-Bran (Extra Fiber). Period.
• Er, Belgium... motherfucker?
• For the Wholess - The Pirate Bay has links to torrents - just search "Doctor Who" among the video files. Try to get the ones that are .avi and about 350 MB (good quality). I usually prefer www.isohunt.com, which shows you exactly what files you are downloading, because I don't know what to do with .rar - with Pirate Bay you can't see that until you start, but you can see how many files (there should be only one). If you don't bittorrent, just download and install the Azureus client, which is ridiculously easy to use. And then when they are released we all go out and buy lots of lovely Doctor Who DVDs, because we love the BBC (esp BBC Wales!) and want to give them lots of money to make more Doctor Who :)
• OK, I was just checking out this Bittorrent thing, and (sorry if this isn't new to anyone) it seems to require me to divulge my IP address to some central location. Is that not worrisome? Wouldn't it be trivial to trace the people who commit the acts of copyright infringement/piracy/whatever, assuming one can get a hold of the logs of the "tracker"? This is the *AA cop's wet dream! For some reason I had the (mistaken) impression that Bittorrent was anonymizing...
• Not just the tracker, but everyone who is connected to you with Bittorrent knows your IP address.
• No, bittorrent is not anonymising. But to be honest, the *AA right now are going after the tracker hosts and the creators of files, not after the thousands (millions?) of individuals. They went after individuals using Kazaa or peer2peer who uploaded/shared a lot, rather than those who shared not much. But if you live in the US, it is a risk. If you don't live in the US, I don't see how any *AA could sue you.
• Hey, I already give the BBC enough money, which they then use to make Celebrity Love Hairdressing Brother's Farm to Ladies. Bleuch. at least you guys in America get the real good bad reality TV programmes, like that one where the woman had to find her biological father. Genius!
• I, for one, think the Intarweb will implode soon.
• A song popped unbidden into my head as I clicked: Metafilter on Sunday and the server's still Ja JRun Run Run Ja JRun Run Semms unlikely they ain't paid their bill Ja JRun Run Run Ja JRun Run Yeah, can't open it, yeah that's pretty shit...
• To everything - JRun JRun JRun There is a season - JRun JRun JRun And a time for every filter under heaven A time to sign up, a time to leave, A time to comment, a time to FPP[1], A time to troll, a time to reel[2], A time to laugh, a time to weep. [1] pronounced "fpeep". [2] you know, like if someone bites your trollbait. OK, I suck at filking.
• The problem, friends, is this. Mefites are Nazis, plain and simple. Hairy Nazis. With strange and exciting tattoos. they want to eat our babies, this much has been made clear time and time again. We have been complacent for too long, the time to strike is NOW! How, you ask? Perhaps we can build some sort of giant... uh... olive. And then drop it on them. And they'll die. Yes. It's all becoming clear now.
• Monkeyfilter: This thread clarified some things for me
• Doohikie Why does your web-page expire at July 24, 2005, and why do I suddenly have a pop-up, and why does your metachat bio say... About me: Caught in the MeMoChaFi vortex. Did you start this said vortex and then drop something in my computer? /gone to do search and destroy, pronto.
• Nothing there I can find. I still don't like what you are doing Doohickie. Is this all some kind of self-gratification thing?
• Villiage Voice article. Smart, avid, leanly written, and likably lefty, the posts and comments that frame the links somehow cohere into a recognizable sensibility rather than just more evidence of imminent worldwide information meltdown. Bleah.
• suuuuuuuuumooooch!
• So, a news article about comments on a news filter link to news? Meta-Metafilter. Great. How about the Village Voice write about actual news? Stuff still happens in New York, right?
• Where? Is that on the Internets?
• Look under the hood, and you'll find that a few simple tweaks—tight limits on the frequency of posts, for instance, and an active but light-handed pruning of redundant items—account for much of its success. The rest is bottomless, unquenchable curiosity about the world, but that's the easy part, right? HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!1!