March 12, 2005

• local deli doesn't stock ostriches.
• As a beverage, we have a sponge soaked in vinegar and water on a stick.* obscure Xian reference-- I am so going to hell.
• I'm telling Jesus.
• Wasn't it vinegar & gall? Probly different in the different accounts. Gall would have been some kind of medicine, likely a snake venom, some say.
• I love ancient and medieval cookbooks! When I was in college, we did a feast based on medieval recipes for one of my classes. I'd love to do that kind of thing again, but since I can't cook worth a damn, I settle for reading about it. *runs off to add book to wish list* )))
• [hic bonus est] Multae bananae for Two Birds, and welcome. I'm going to try making the Fried Veal Escalope with Raisins as soon as possible. Yum.
• Those recipes actually sound quite good. Theres one for bread and it's the worlds oldest recipe, but I couldn't find a beepin' link. And whats this about water on a stick? Just don't spill that vinegar B'tundering Jesus.
• Gall = the fluid called gall or bile is green in colour, and is noted for extreme bitterness/noxiousness. It's produced by the liver and stored in the gall bladder of a critter or a bird. So if a hunter/farmer/butcher is careless in cleaning a carcass, this stuff can make the meat unpalatable.
• Yeah, but, it wasn't actual gall, that was just what it was translated as.
• Might try asking languagehat about it, then, K the Cat.
• Well, there's a great deal of argument about all that, so perhaps best not go there. Some sources claim that it was a kind of medicine containing opium, which knocked old J out, explaining why he kicked the bucket so quickly (people usually lingered for several days on the cross). He was, if we believe scripture, pulled down & buried rather hastily for a method of punishment that usually involved letting the carcass rot on the crossbeam. The Jews particularly reviled crucifixion because the Romans did not allow victims the burial their beliefs demanded. Some have made hay with claims that Jesus had links to the Essene sect, who were skilled with medicine. This has been the basis of theories that Jesus didn't die at all, hence explaining the 'miraculous' resurection.
• That's just crazy! I was inpired to make a roman brunch, for myself. Peasent steak (marinated, cooked and cubed), Romain lettuce, Plume tomatoes cubed, roasted pepper julliene. Dressing, Romano cheese, roasted pepper brine, imported Italain balsamic vineger, Olive oil (first press) and the final ingrediant pesto paste (heavy on the pine nuts) I cooked up some calamari from the deep freeze. (all Japenese portion) Thanks Monkey Filter! Is gall some kind of marinade possibly? Vinegar to kill bacteria, let meat soak in, until use. This is on par with those wankers at the Culinary Institue Of America.
• Hey Kat! use your brains man. Jesus never died on the cross. The officals were paid off, and the death was faked. Think about it, Jesus was actually the illigitamate son of a rich man. Duh, 1+1=2, thats why he was to be buried in that tomb. And I suppose the Bible was something more than a bloody log/farmers almanac/record. \Right?
• Wild board wrapped in bacon? Truly, the Romans had Civilisation with a capital C.
• Crackpot, guy, you're preaching to the fucking choir here, man. I've read & looked at every angle of the whole thing (by no means an expert but there's little I haven't read on the subject). 'Ben Panthera'. Look that up. I don't even believe he existed as a historical person. As far as I am concerned he's a mythical figure invented to hang the neo-platonist gallilean teachings of the Q gospel upon. None of the stuff we consider the bio of Jesus existed prior to the early 2nd Century. Paul mentions virtually none of it, in fact to read Paul, one gets the impression that Jesus was an entirely spiritual entity like Mithras or some-such, not a flesh and blood man that walked the earth. None of this Jesus person's philosophy was unique, none of it, not even the Lord's Prayer. But this is a topic for another time. I try to be courteous to the deluded.
• Hey, the Columella salad has catnip in it. It sounds good too.
• I predict that in 2000 years my Telivision instruction manual will be found, and someone will start the cult of Hi'tachi. (God, Vger)Every one will call 1800 their god (wait a bloomin' second...) yeah I guess your right it is all old hat. Telephone I guess. There was an earthquake, and the red sea drained or somthing, some wankers were able to cross it, then a couple hundred years later some other wankers couldn't cross it. Then 2000 years later some other wankers or yerkers (TA) thoght that the Jews were canibals, and japanese monks could fly. Go figure, or these days "go calculate". It's all feug shui to me. Heres a good one, "why did moses part the Red Sea?" That was the style back then.
• Crackpot, ever read A Canticle for Liebowitz?
• Oh, big help these recipes are: here I am with the carcasses of eight ancient romans in my pantry, and I get teased with some goddamned instructions on how to cook lentils. Thanks a lot.
• Interesting post, thanks. Thanks to Crackpot's syntax and all this boar de-bristling, I'm exhausted and in need of refreshment. In vino veritas, if I recall correctly.
• Oh, and I was disappointed to find that the Nut Tart calls for legumes.
• It's interesting to see how these differ from modern Italian food. Except for the absense of tomatoes, alot of recipes have some similar ingrediants. I don't even believe he existed as a historical person. As far as I am concerned he's a mythical figure invented to hang the neo-platonist gallilean teachings of the Q gospel upon. Well it looks like you've just purchased a one way ticket -- TO HELL!
• Crackpot, Korzeniowski, dig: Jesus never existed. It's a fun site.
• Oh and Crackpot, what would I have to do to get you to cook for me? That stuff don't come in boil-in-bag versions.
• D' canticle for Liebowitz? You people are like all cerebrel n' that. If I started reading I wouldn't have time for T.V. Frozen food version? Big Davey: Michalinas, frozen food. Actually for the same entres at a 3 * gourmet restaurant you would be paying $10 Usd. It's all in the ingrediants. At the super market(in Canada at least, on special often times. just a few dollars)
• http://www.michelinas.com/ The Penne Pollo isn't very good though.
• I have an old hardback called "An illustrated history of French cuisine," which starts with Charlemagne. Several recipes begin: "Take a woodchuck. . . "
• Goofyfoot: Take him WHERE?