Maybe they can kill a few chickens and read their guts while they're burnung this calf...
Yay for animal sacrifice, the true mark of civilisatiion.
Wow, Messiah Cam AND the Red Calf of Doom all on the same day, that's sweet.
MonkeyFilter:Sanity and reason go for a long walk.
ya know... given the way things are, part of me hopes it's true!
and, isn't is spelled "A pock a lips"?
Just do it, already.
If it works? Hey, great - we all roast in Hell, but we were going to go there anyway according to most modern Christian theology.
If it doesn't work? Well, they get to go on wailing about how the End is Coming, and those of us who consider ourselves a little more rational will have turned out to be right.
So, DO IT, DAMMIT!
By the way, my understanding is that the cow has a Death Moo that is udderly terrifying.
For goodness sakes, somebody sneak in there and dab some hair dye on the poor heifer. A little blonde bleach on the tail and no more divine animal.
drivingmenuts - The problem is there are enough fundamentalist nutballs in enough places of power to make sure Armageddon happens no matter what the other 90% of us say about the subject. That's why this isn't entirely a laughing matter. It's not just about sitting back and placing bets while the Jews go head-to-head with the Muslims, it's about how all it takes is ONE of these idiots setting off a nuke to make sure the End of the World happens on schedule.
And one of those idiots in question controls the largest nuclear stockpile in the world...
What gets me is that this so called 'second coming' or whatever, it seems like this is something that should be happening of itself, without the 'assistance' of these block-headed morons. Take this 'red calf' thing. A *genetically modified animal*. How un-Christian is that? If this kind of thing is going to come about ,a genetically modified calf from a delusional right-wing nutball from texas doesn't really seem to me to be part of 'god's plan'.
If this thing does happen, I think 'gods followers' are going to find one hell of a lot of resentment and retaliation against them after the mess they seem so determined to make. I see a whole new world-wide generation of atheists rising from this cock-up.
Mk1gti - you're unfortunately applying chronological logic to the situation. Imagine that we're in a time-travel movie like 12 Monkeys, where changing the timeline is impossible. It is decreed that these things WILL happen, so the means literally do not matter. If this particular engineered goldencrimson calf is the one that allows the Temple to be rebuilt (one of the major waystations on the road to DOOOOOOOOM), then that's just God's Will being worked as it inevitably would, and clearly, God planned it to happen that way all along.
This, of course, also contributes to the fact that it only takes a handful of wackos in positions of power to make God's Will happen, all by themselves.
Yes, that's the spooky part. That fundamentalist fanatics jump-strating all this nonsense. Not quite logical, for them to force this events, instead of waiting for them to happen on tthier own? Well, thy can always say their specific deity 'allowed them to do it, so, it must be ok...'
Shit. And, if one wants to go all tinfoil, the part that more irksome is the possibility all these fundies are being pawns on some geopolitical game, by the usual culprits. Some world powers wnat control of specific regions, due to theri energetic/strategic resources? Hey, give some ear to these hotheads, have them support you, cast a sheen of religious crusade on your own plans... everybody wins!
Except all of us trampled on the tracks, thats' it.
Yeah, I've considered the 'pawns of the geopolitical game' scenario too. Think about it, what better way could there be to control a population than by infiltrating it's churches and bringing them over to your side? You brainwash them with nonsense professing to identify with their beliefs (god hates gays, liberals, muslims, government) and loves (big business, free enterprise, republicans, whites only).
Funny how that all works out: go after the gullible, naive and superstitious, convince them 'we're your friends', vilify those who are educated (professors, scientists, teachers, etc.)then when you've obtained your objectives, toss'em to the wind.
Reading about all the takeovers in south and central america over the years there are a lot of similarities here in this country now. Conspiracy theories be damned, I just believe in good, solid research. Che Guevara's 'Guerilla Warfare' is a good reference too.
All this is why it's so important to date as many supermodels and own as many Escalades and Benzes as possible.
InnocentBystander: Nope. That's just wiping us all out in a nuclear fireballl, and we've been living with that for years, so much so that it no longer scares me. Either they do it, and we die, or they don't, and we live. We're Schrodinger people, to a certain extent, neither alive nor dead because the isotope is decaying, but no one has dropped the hammer.
Driving - I would argue the difference is that, during the Cold War, the people with their fingers on the buttons were fairly rational beings with a healthy helping of self-interest. No one wanted to be the first to drop the bomb because, thanks to Mutually Assured Destruction, that would be signing one's own death certificate.
The people we're talking about here have no such hangups, as they fully believe that as soon as they've shed their mortal burdens they'll be off to a happy place hobnobbing at Jesus' knees for all eternity.
Yeah, the funny thing about it, as a rationalist (at least I like to think of myself along those lines, for the most part) is that if they actually do pull this off, no rational god would want to have anything to do with these people except to consign them to the hell which they would surely deserve for the arrogant, murderous stupidity they would be inflicting on the world's population. Who knows, maybe (insert omnipotent diety here) will come back to save us from these dingbats . . .
Heh. Some days, I think the best proof of a loving God is the failure of these guys to wreck the world.
I know, it's kind of like watching the Hatfields and the McCoys unleashing their wrath upon the world . . .
"Hey lemule, let's go wreck a country huh, huh, huh ."
Since jesus christ is a member in good standing of this community I demand he come forth and explain these preparations for his upcoming world tour.
The funny thing about all this: I do actually believe in God, but mainly because I think God doesn't want anything to do with those wackos. I could be wrong ...
The best quote I have heard on the subject is from Terry Pratchett in "Small Gods": You can die for your country or your people or your family, but for a god you should live fully and busily, every day of a long life.
It seems to make some sense that way.
Look at the big eyes on path!
Man, I didn't even notice that . . .
I was thinking to myself "Well, here comes the packy-clips..." Two years too late. By this time the hefer has probably become a burger at someone's table by now
But...but the article says that the calf will be ready for sacrifice in three years! And it was published on April 11 2002, and today is March 1 2005 ... the apocaclippety-cloppety should be here any minute now!
Gee, and all I had to do was slice off my balls ...
Why does it feel like I'm living in a bad Sci-Fi novel?
I feel like I'm living in an episode of 'Twilight Zone' or 'Outer Limits', certainly nothing that could be a rational everyday existence. Nuttier and nuttier every day.
This is the kind of thing that belongs in a bad sci-fi movie like 'Battlefield Earth', not right out in our faces and the front pages of our newspapers. I want my reality back.
goldencrimson calf is the one that allows the Temple to be rebuilt (one of the major waystations on the road to DOOOOOOOOM), then that's just God's Will being worked as it inevitably would, and clearly, God planned it to happen that way all along. This, of course, also contributes to the fact that it only takes a handful of wackos in positions of power to make God's Will happen, all by themselves.