November 14, 2004

R.I.P. O.D.B. Ol' Dirty Bastard dead at 35.
posted by goddam 20 years ago
  • ol' dead bastard
  • Old died so young... I'm sure he's interrupting acceptance speeches in heaven now.
  • Big Baby Jesus is hangin' wit de REAL THANG, now.
  • Who is this Old Dirty Bastard? Should I know? Is this a musical post? WTF?
  • ODB DOA!? OMG! WTF? Seriously, though, sad but not surprising. I hope he finally got his money.
  • Jerry: he was this guy.
  • Thanks, Richer, but I'd rather a simple mp3.
  • I'm a curse. I borrowed Elliott Smith's XO from a friend, and then he died. I just got "Enter the Wu-Tang" from a friend, and now this. Anyone got any Oasis? Collective Soul?
  • When a rapper talks to Beethoven I'll talk to you. Until then you gotta know that Beethoven was a nigger in the early 1800s. Rap isn't music, it's RAP. Music is the Beastie Boys.
  • Must resist to use my drunken ass as an excuse to flame Jerry Garcia back to the stone age. Hopefully I'm just being a pathetic drunk idiot who can't see irony when it bites him on the ass. Come to think of it I can't see most things that are chomping on my butt. Mmm, alcohol.
  • See? Rappers ain't musicians. ;-)
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  • Huh? I like the BBs as much as the next guy, but their flow is seriously whack. They couldn't rap in the 1980s, they can't now. Rap certainly is music, but right now we can't say if any rapper will live on as being in the same league as Beethoven. For that, we'll have to wait until the first generation become DBM (and even DBW). So we probably wont know in our lifetimes.
  • Dude...from a guy who calls hisself Jerry Garcia? Pu-lease ;)
  • Great, now I'm going to have that "Hey, Hey, Hey. Baby I gotcho money" song stuck in my head for the next week. *pours one for the ODB*
  • Jerry Garcia was a shy boy whose tattered clothes reeked of cat piss. Everyone knew his father peddled drugs and his mother smoked rock, so they called him a “crack baby.” Sorry. I'm drunk, so that's my excuse for not being able to resist.
  • Please download or buy Jay-Z's "Girls, Girls, Girls" (the remixed one with the old song in the background, trying giiirls out, just trying gir-ir-irls out, til I find the one for me) and tell me rap isn't music.
  • Arguing about music & what constitutes 'real art' is like arguing religion or any other totally subjective point of view. Thankfully we're all different & have different tastes. Anyway, there you go, he's dead.
  • it's so funny to hear people turn into their parents. Whenever my dad tells me "rap isnt music" I ask him if he isnt getting deja vu of his own dad saying the SAME EXACT WORDS about the Beatles.
  • Thank you, moneyjane, for saying it before I was compelled to. :-)
  • If ODB hadn't come along, we would have had to invent him. Poor Bastard.
  • Live fast, die old and dirty.
  • 35!
  • I am soooooooooo sorry to laugh on ODB's behalf, but this is the funniest goddamn thread EVAR!!! It actually did surprise me to hear the news this morning, especially because I like Wu-Tang, so, yeah, it's sad......... Jerry Garcia was a shy boy whose tattered clothes reeked of cat piss. Everyone knew his father peddled drugs and his mother smoked rock, so they called him a “crack baby.” Sorry. I'm drunk, so that's my excuse for not being able to resist. I almost peed my pants from laughing so hard after reading that, having just finished that thread!!
  • I thought he and Mariah Carey's "Fantasy" was one of the greatest pieces of pop trash of the 90's.... I'll miss him just for that.
  • Jerry, I'm disappointed.
  • In my personal way of internally categorizing the universe, Hip Hop is the musical style, of which Rap - an intentionally non-musical alternativeto singing - is only a part. But then, in my mind, Charlie Daniels was rapping in "The Devil Went Down to Georgia". Let's just hope the autopsy doesn't show that ODB OD'd. And if Jerry Garcia is Jerry Garcia, then I'm changing my name to Tupak Shakur.
  • The article says he was having chest pains, so presumably his poor ol' dirty heart couldn't handle the strain of past drug use. And possibly current, I guess.
  • Rap - an intentionally non-musical alternativeto singing You could argue it's not melodic. But if rapping isnt musical, then neither are the drums. "like, I was rapping with the fuzz..."
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  • Ok, what in the heck does the single period comment mean?
  • A moment of silence? ODB and Arafat die at the same time? Has anyone ever seen them photographed together? OMG! They're the same person!
  • yentruoc: it's from MeFi.
  • it may have been learned on MeFi, but it's way older than MeFi. The conferencing system in question will remain nameless. Beamz to ODB's Ma. wendell did it.
  • Damn... I miss him already. His bizarre, drunken-free-association (and just barely in time) rhymes were, in many ways, a triumph over and of rap music. "Shame on you / when you stepped through to / the old dirty bastard / brookyln zoo" Yep, those were his lyrics... So were "I don't have a problem with you fucking me / I have a problem with you not fucking me" And, I'm not mocking him. I'm impressed that this cat is completely sane (although pretty coked-up), and is willing to gamble a rap career on lyrics like this. Having said that, I've bought Return to the 36 Chambers 3 times already. (2 accidents, long stories).
  • NWA is all you need, not love. and .
  • I stay away from danger, danger stay away from me I kind of react on y'all niggas and then I flee Whatever you say is a mirage And on top of that, huh, nigga fuck y'all I'm the law of the land, got girls Uncle Nuggah I gagagaga got girls on the command I got the government lost on Gilligan Island (Nigga Please!) By December, CIA gettin' paid taxes back From the Candy Cane, Santa came, back in the big hurricane You ain't shaggy anymore D8, I ain't in your ballgame I became, ain't your doggy bag ho same You gotta make Ol' Dirty a better man In the world if you wanna live Fuck y'all, God don't forgive I don't answer phones I'll never reveal the Wu-Tang secret, and if you don't believe I'll kill your shit
  • Drums are melodic, you tune a drum to a specific note. I don't think you can have rhythm without melody.
  • What about the drum corps in a marching band?
  • don't think you can have rhythm without melody. Yes you can. In Buddhist meditation, you use one of these to keep time as you chant the sutras. (The two white knobs are the ends of sticks which are slotted into the "wooden fish" when not in use). The wooden fish has only one "note", but go to a temple sometime and listen to them getting knocked on. The rhythm can be hypnotic.
  • WU-TANG ARE FOR THE CHILDREN!!! Oh, and God made Dirt and Dirt'll bust yo ass!
  • That sounds really cool. However, melody is defined as: 1 : a sweet or agreeable succession or arrangement of sounds : TUNEFULNESS 2 : a rhythmic succession of single tones organized as an aesthetic whole Says nothing about the tones having to alternate. Somewhere, in the anals of pop-rock garbage, there is a bass player who just had to play the root note of a one chord song over and over until his head exploded. I would argue that's still a melody.
  • I have a fairly long tribute up at the Tofu Hut, if you'll tolerate a self link.
  • Forky, you know self linky-love is cool in-thread.
  • You may be excited to hear Wolof that I've been working for the past hour on re-writing the "REVOLUTIONARY GEORGE" post. I'll put it up before i sleep.
  • You meant to spell it anals, right? You were being ironic? Parse it for the aspie.
  • Was going for annals, the anals of pop-rock history wrote much better music.
  • Forks: Great tribute. I agree entirely. Jerry Garcia: wtf?
  • According to 10 Reasons Why ODB Was Cool, one of his nicknames was Joe Bannanas. Also, there was nothing about this rapper that sounded copied or fake. In fact, he named himself Ol' Dirty Bastard, since there was no father to his style.
  • My friend Chuck's dad was a New York judge who revoked ODB's probation and put him in the slammer. ODB repaid him by immortalizing him in Cash Still Rules/Scary Hours. Chuck blogged his dad's 15 minutes of fame, which is now, as his dad said, over.
  • I'm shocked! Shocked.
  • I know! It's like, who thought drugs would ever be bad for you? personally, i think this is a coverup by those Granola people
  • well that explains why the unhealthiest person I know is a vegetarian
  • This does not jibe with the reports I read. According to my sources, ODB swallowed a baggie of this shit, apparently trying to hide it (in either a justified or paranoid attempt to dodge going back to jail) and the baggie busted in his belly, leading to the OD.
  • Oh, for heaven's sake. He should have stuffed it up his ass like a normal mule would. What a waste.
  • link us up forky!
  • So, is he still dead?
  • The rapper has at least seven children — four of them by four different women other than his wife. no.