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October 30, 2004
60 minutes was filming backstage when Ashlee Simpson flubbed on SNL.
and they caught various reactions after it happened.
17 years ago
Look what I'm missing by not having a TV. Flubbed lip-synch scandals.
In the backstage footage, you can just barely see Dan Rather in the shadows, doing an Irish jig and cackling. CBS's crack team of journalists doing the hard-hitting, ground-breaking work, as usual...
sigh. am I the only throughly enjoy and becoming obsessed with the destruction of media created pop idol? it's nothing personal, i'm just enjoying somebody with no talent, who's been tailgating on her sister's success, do a crash and burn in front of the cameras. It's beautiful.
Schadenfreude is a beautiful thing.
It's like Frusen Gladje without the headache from eating it too fast.
I kind of like Pieces Of Me. *crickets* What? What'd I say?
No one realizes it's been Dan Rather singing all along.
Whoa... flashback... When was the last time anyone brought up Frusen Gladje? And now I go all googling. Huh.
I kind of feel sorry for this girl. Backing tapes are not a new thing, they've been used for fucking years, and not necessarily just to support a crappy singer. In live TV, it's horrendously complicated & expensive to set up a live act for a single song, when the stage has to be torn down & set up again for the next act/skit/whatever. Since before I was alive, tv production relies on backing tapes for such appearances simply because it is quicker. Do you have *any* idea how many cables & plugs are required just to mic-up a live band? Try hundreds. Unless you mega-pin your multi-core. Even then, that is not quick or simple. Mixing a live band is not easy, I know this because it is my job. Bear in mind that most sound technicians in TV know next to nothing about *real* mixing; the most they have to contend with on a day to day basis is putting lavalier mics on newscasters & pulling faders up & down on tiny, weenie sound desks. I know this because it *used* to be my job. They could no more mix a live band than fly a jumbo jet. From the P.O.V. of the band/artist management, if the tv sound for their client isn't good & doesn't sound like what the audience expect, then there's no point in the TV slot in the first place. So you use backing tape/combination backing & live or what-have-you. Every musical artist around today has done what Simpson got caught at. I guess some haven't, but they are the ones that don't go on TV. Doing lip-synch at a live concert is a different matter. But then, today, digital backing tapes synched with computer-sequences & full-on MIDI-sequenced bands are commonplace, even in local gigs. Even (especially) Pink Floyd use entirely computer-sequenced music. It's basically karaoke with guitarists. So what's the fucking difference?
Just to add: ironic that it was the *sound man's* fault that the wrong tape got played in the Simpson appearance. I wonder if he/she got it in the neck?
The difference is that Pink Floyd were talented musicians before they used computerized backup, were still talented musicians while using them, and after they turn them off Pink Floyd is still a group of very talented musicians. Ashley Simpson, on the other hand, is a pod person.
Simpson is a pod person with an insufferably cutesy spelled name.
Well said, Nostril! I also think that much of the outrage is directed not only at lip-synching but at corporate rock and the marketing of nearly identical, vapid bimbettes. I feel sorry for her but not her handlers.
Yeah, but will "the incident" do as much "damage" to her career as, say, O'Reilly's sexual harassment "incident". No, wait, his ratings went UP. Never underestimate the bad judgement of the Dumberican* People.
*I used that word to post to Viewropa a few minutes ago, and have decided to make it part of my daily language, subject to Election Day results.
They could no more mix a live band than fly a jumbo jet.
*has scary vision of TV sound people crashing teeny-weeny mixing desks into teeny-weeny buildings*
I dunno, I'm torn about it. My first reaction is 'pop star lip synchs, news at 11'. But a larger part of me is irritated that someone who's making a damn fine living at what she does isn't even professional enough to know what to do when there's an on-stage gaffe. I know loads of fine musicians, singers and songwriters who end up at 'pay to play' clubs playing to mostly drunk patrons who could give a flying damn whether there are good musicians onstage or not. So yeah, while I may feel a little sorry for young woman who made a nationally-televised ass of herself, meh. Have the courtesy to at least learn a bit of your craft before you are so amply rewarded for it. (and also, blaming the band is just SO low-rent)
In theory, I'm all for someone like her being embarassed on live television. In practice, though, watching the video, I felt bad for her. I never enjoy seeing anyone humiliated. (Although that may change on Tuesday.)
All. About. Eve. UK readers only (maybe...)
I know nothing about Lindsay Lohan except that I immediately cringe at each and every vehicle I see her in. Perhaps she's the talent of our age, I dunno. But here's some supermarket check-out reading:
"No Starlet Left Behind, Not Even Lindsay Lohan"
"I would like to send my condolences out to Catherine Altman, Robert Altmans wife, as well as all of his immediate family, close friends, co-w.orkers, and all of his inner circle. "I feel as if I've just had the wind knocked out of me and my heart aches. "If not only my heart but the heart of Mr. Altman's wife and family and many fellow actors/artists that admire him for his work and love him for making people laugh whenever and however he could.. "Robert altman made dreams possible for many independent aspiring filmmakers, as well as creating roles for countless actors. "I am lucky enough to of been able to work with Robert Altman amongst the other greats on a film that I can genuinely say created a turning point in my career. "I learned so much from Altman and he was the closest thing to my father and grandfather that I really do believe I've had in several years. "The point is, he made a difference. "He left us with a legend that all of us have the ability to do. "So every day when you wake up. "Look in the mirror and thank god for every second you have and cherish all moments. "The fighting, the anger, the drama is tedious. "Please just take each moment day by day and consider yourself lucky to breathe and feel at all and smile. Be thankful. "Life comes once, doesn't 'keep coming back' and we all take such advantage of what we have. "When we shouldn't..... ' "Make a searching and fearless moral inventory of yourselves' (12st book) -everytime there's a triumph in the world a million souls hafta be trampled on.-altman Its true. But treasure each triumph as they come. "If I can do anything for those who are in a very hard time right now, as I'm one of them with hearing this news, please take advantage of the fact that I'm just a phone call away. God Bless, peace and love always. Thank You, "BE ADEQUITE" Lindsay Lohan
Apparently, it's not because she's ignorant, it's because she
dashed the note off on her Blackberry
, although some conjecture she was mid-party at the time.
She did work with the guy, and this is not the first incident of young actresses getting emotionally attached to older experienced directors in a father daughter sort of way. I am guessing her grief is real, and the media attacking her obvious ignorance is just garbage. I am the first one to question feigned grief, but I would wager she really liked the guy and his death hurt.
I don't doubt she's affected by the news (and perhaps a few vodkas) but I admit to being a bit amused by the grandiosity. I don't think it's feigned greif, I think it's feigned completed thoughts.
He left us with a legend that all of us have the ability to do. "So every day when you wake up. "Look in the mirror and thank god for every second you have and cherish all moments.
I'm sure she's a very nice person. And hey, I was young and unwise myself once.
I am no longer all that young.
She's not a major thinker, that's clear, but she was obviously grief-stricken. But "he left us with a legend that all of us have the ability to do"? "Please just take each moment day by day"? Oof. Count to 10 before hitting "send," kid.
Some people take death of someone they know really hard. I know I do.
Sorry; still pissed off at you from another thread. Please try to disregard previous comment as much as possible. Shouldn't have made it.
Oh, c'mon that's what the thread is about. Shh. It's fine.
Will Ferrell turned to DiCaprio, Gore and Affleck and said, "Who cares about that freak anymore, anyway?" - setting off laughter.
Stardom is a weird beast for all those involved.
Is that supposed to mean mom/teenager or mom/manager?
Dysfunctional celebrities are freaking awesome!
THERE! I SAID IT!
*threatens paparazzi with 3 kinds of karate*
Story Highlights • Lindsay Lohan: "I've been going to AA for a year" • "I haven't had a drink in seven days," actress says • Actress has made headlines for partying ways
"Herbie Fully Loaded" takes on new meaning now.
And now to the really important news items of the world media:
Hard-partying actress Lindsay Lohan, 20, has admitted herself to a residential rehab center in California.
We'll have more on this story, in quarter-hour updates, as it progresses.
*resists to feed the media conglomerate*
*tosses a handful of pigeon feed*
Hey, has it been a quarter hour yet? En(In)quiring minds need to know the dirt!
*flicks watch to ensure it's working*
*tosses a shiny new quarter*
Okay, so someone of the slightly older generation may be able to answer this: When Drew Barrymore apparently did her drug thing, her drinking thing, all that stuff she says she did in her teens, did she have this much media coverage?
Hmmm... well, I do recall seeing her splashed on tabloid magazines in the grocery store during that phase (and being a child myself, I was aghast that the girl from
could be doing such things!). Same amount of coverage? Doubtful...
Jimminy Hat Trick, Paula Abdul's
Does this count as a followup to Lindsay Lohan? Okay put this down for "one".
*taps microphone* As it seems someone has dropped the ball on Lohan coverage, I'll pick it up...
No Sundance for Lohan
'I have a deep sense of shame'
Story Highlights • Naomi Campbell: "Remorseful" over phone-throwing incident • Blames "tiredness," other issues for event • Says she's doing therapy every day, traveling with crystals
Paris Hilton Goes To Jail
Celebrity Culture Peaks
"Now we can get down to actually solving important problems, and enjoying our own lives" says source.
please PLEASE let it be true!
Celebrity is an industry.
Question: Is the celebrity-industrial complex as much of a threat to a Good Society as the military-industrial complex?
I kinda thought they went hand-in-hand?
The one distracts us from the other?
Britney doesn't shill for Northrop-Grumman yet.
Although her agent would be smart to pursue those engagements.
Minda is correct! 200 points!!
SMT, I'm sorry, the judges ruled that your answer was incomplete.
*pulls out the
Steal Your Opponents Move!
card* I'll take those 200 points, thank you!
*readies hand over the buzzer*
Hey, those are MY points! I wanted to use them for a subscription to US Weekly! *pouts*
I got more points than I know what to do with. Here, you take 200 points too.
, like, stay on the critical topic of ridiculous celebrity behavior/gossip?! I mean, it's like, *ah!* . . You guyyyyysss?!?
When petebest gets all peeved? That's hot.
Lohan has big party plans for 21st birthday
"I forget to breathe sometimes," Lohan replied.
Well. She'll finally be able to drink.
Remember, Lohan -- you don't need alcohol to have a good time. But it sure helps.
This is what makes me want to grab CNN, pick it up, shake it real hard and throw it against the wall: "STORY HIGHLIGHTS: • Lindsay Lohan turns 21 on July 2 • Actress told Ellen DeGeneres she plans to "milk" event • Plans to spend time in Los Angeles and Las Vegas" We need story highlights for a 5 (small) paragraph story that is obviously vapid celebrity gossip? Can you give me a high-level overview as well? An executive summary, perhaps? I am too busy to read the ENTIRE story about what Lindsay Lohan plans to do on her 21st birthday. This is news? GAH!
That's exactly what I thought when I had finished reading the whole thing.
She's going to milk Ellen Degeneris? Do we need another Tyra Banks?
Prosecutor: Lock up Paris Hilton for 45 days
• Prosecutor recommends 45-day jail term for Paris Hilton • The celebutante is due in court on Friday • She's charged with violating probation for reckless driving • Prosecutor also wants Hilton to avoid alcohol for 90 days
It's a saucy little pic with the story too.
Oh there will be an FPP about those CNN photo editors, oh yes. It's time is a-comin'.
It will make no more sense than before, but now your dreams will be haunted.
You know, without television and grocery store magazines, I would never hear about these people if it weren't for MonkeyFilter.
This might look like
your average "I tried to avoid stepping on the dog and fell and broke my nose" story. Or, it might look like "I was frickin' wasted and blacked out and broke my nose" story. Depends on one's perspective, perhaps.
I kinda think that the "celebrity culture" would wain if everyone ignored it. So, when we link to all that stuff, are we thinking that they're really stupid, or "Yeah, they're no better than we are."? Or, maybe, both? (There's a fascination with this stuff around the internet which makes me itch.)
STORY HIGHLIGHTS • Paula Abdul broke nose over weekend • Abdul, in act of avoiding stepping on dog, fell • "American Idol" judge will be on shows this week
The hell with celebrity culture. I wanna whine about PowerPoint culture.
Drugs in Lohan's car, and she don't know what to do with them.
He declined to say where the drug was found other than to say Lohan was not carrying it.
What a marooooon! Yes, Your Honor, my client just happened to wreck her car at the curb while under the influence, and by coincidence, there were drugs found
ON THE SIDEWALK!!
I'm amazed anyone would let her drive. Or that she would want to.
Lohan's wild weekend ends asleep in car
Web site X17online.com posted the photos Monday, which it said were taken early that morning at a gas station after the 20-year-old actress left the Roosevelt Hotel in Hollywood, California, with a girlfriend. The photos show Lohan, wearing a gray hooded sweat shirt, with her mouth open and her eyes shut, apparently asleep. Another photo shows her kneeling on the ground, her back to the camera, apparently before getting into the vehicle.
Perhaps some form of assistance would be beneficial.
Like holding her hair back. Or offering a breath mint.
This is CNN.
*buys Nickdanger a drink*
I'm amazed anyone would let her drive. Or that she would want to.
That's what I don;t get. Both her and that Hillton character have enough money lying around in their couch cushions to have a driver and limo standing by at all times. I dunno, maybe they're afraid the driver would get loose-lipped about what he saw in the back seat?
Paris doesn't like the food. She's going home.
Internet rumors that she shot a man in Reno just to watch him die have not been corroborated yet.
Yeah, I'm sure it was really hard for her to starve herself.
I'm sure they'd do the same for any of us.
This thread is smelly and I don't like it here! I want my jacuzzi-lounger and my bowls of happy dust! Tell Marty to
with the man!
Has it really been over one year since Pete updated this thread?
Lohan confirms that she's "dating" long-time pal Samantha Ronson.
Clearly not as exciting as drunken weekend sprees, but what have you...
I miss petes.
Me too. All of 'em...
Lindsay just got a whole lot more interesting.