October 20, 2004

"And I warned him about this war. I had deep misgivings about this war, deep misgivings. And I was trying to say, 'Mr. President, you had better prepare the American people for casualties.' " Robertson said the president then told him, "Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties."
posted by shawnj 20 years ago
  • I saw this last night. Surprised me a bit, I must say. The high point for me was when he described Sojourners magazine as "semi-Socialist."
  • I find semi-Socialist chips make for better cookies.
  • "I mean, the Lord told me it was going to be A, a disaster, and B, messy," Robertson said. "Then he said something about Thou Shall Not Drill, or something, I didn't catch that bit."
  • I smell bullshit.
  • Well, maybe he said something like "Oh no, we're not going to have any casualties. Only freedom sacrifices."
  • No, the pres thought he meant "casual ties," meaning the soldiers would dress up in dockers with funny printed neckties for battle. So OBVIOUSLY the president knew we would have none of THAT.
  • I can see the headlines now. No Bolo Ties in Iraq. Or Iraqi Received Informal Ties From Bin Laden
  • Only freedom sacrifices Huh? The French aren't even in Iraq.
  • This article makes him sound like he was being highly critical of Bush in the interview, which is misleading. Robertson had glowing praise for Bush, said several times that God has "blessed" him, called him a man of profound faith and prayer. At one point he said something to the effect that God has so thoroughly blessed Bush that he's able to recover quickly even from the bad decisions that he's made. He carefully avoided detailed characterizations of Kerry's faith, of course. But yeah, the quote is accurate.
  • TenaciousP - that's the best laugh I've had all morning...
  • Can someone get Bush's god to have a chat with Robertson's god? A simple phone call between them a couple of years ago and we wouldn't have had a war to begin with.
  • *barfs*
  • So I spoke to my god today, who informes me that in the twice-annual meeting of the Gods of Monotheistic Religions*, Iraq and Bush's blessedness came up and they all agreed unanimously that they don't give a shit and we have to clean up our own mess. *Polytheistic gods are permitted, but not included in the universal security council and thus have no veto power.
  • What an ass-covering, money-grubbing, diamond-miner-exploiting piece of shit. I mean, we knew that before, but come on. Marion, the wise move here is to shut the fuck up and hide until the smoke clears.
  • Perhaps Bush feels it is his responsibility to help as many people get to Heaven as possible. Some sooner than others...
  • Organized religion wants to help people get to Heaven too, of course, but they are practical enough to understand that people apparently stop contributing to the collection plate in the afterlife.
  • Kill for God Kill! Kill! Kill!
  • Can you tell me where the GMR meetup is? I'd like to do a little Q&A with Yahweh, Allah and the rest of them. Seems like they've been slacking a bit lately. On a serious note, I have been involved with a documentary following Lila Lipscomb (the mother from Fahrenheit 911) on a speaking tour before the election and overheard her speaking to another mother who had also lost a child in Iraq. The topic was George Bush's reelection chances. And I quote from Lila: "...all I know is that if he is re-elected, god must be very, very mad at us..."
  • Jeepers de la creepers. Shouldn't even the simplest of non-denominational thought processes have tipped Robertson off that there was something seriously awry 'pon hearing this? What he reports here is damning, yet he shrugs it off as if it's just a matter of an inconsequential disagreement, a difference in style. Then he goes on as if it's just this kind of deluded self-confidence that makes Bush exactly the right man to have as president. Wanting four more years of this kind of absurdity is not something I can wrap my puny mind around.
  • MonkeyFilter: shut the fuck up and hide until the smoke clears
  • I smell bullshit. Nope, that's just the religious right opening its big, fat mouth.
  • Bush and Robertson, known liars, disagree. Wow!
  • It's possible Robertson has something of a conscience when it comes to, you know, war. It sounds like he wants to criticize Bush on a pretty major level but also not loose his fan base. I mean look at his Mark Twain quote: 'He looks like a contented Christian with four aces.' Its meant to be ironic.
  • It's a worrying - nay, terrifying - day when Pat Robertson has a firmer grasp on reality than the President of the biggest nuclear power in the world. Funny that both these men claim to have an authoratative hot-line to God, though...
    Shouldn't even the simplest of non-denominational thought processes have tipped Robertson off that there was something seriously awry 'pon hearing this?Yeah, but George will keep the atheists and the queers down, so who cares if a few people die? Certainly not Pat Robertson...
  • It just occured to me that Robertson might be punishing Bush for disobeying him, keeping Bushes base supporting him but also making his job harder.
  • Maureen Doud's op ed piece on this topic in the NY Times. Reg. required, etc...