So, so, so, so, so good. Jon Stewart is a hero. The joker brings us the truth, while the "truth-tellers" look like buffoons.
Jon Stewart for President in 2008.
Torrents available here (basic client here, more spiffier client here, via the blue). I loved how he was lecturing them and then Tucker Carlson basically said "shush and be funny".
*reminds self to look at this once I get back to my fat pipe*
I spent the whole of the third debate watching Daily Show clips on teh webnet, occasionally glancing up to look at the silent debate on TV. I feel it was better that way.
If everybody can get it elsewhere let me know. But I can't BitTorrent and the other servers seem to be slow right now. It really is brilliant. And sad. And yes, I always leave out the third "i" in definitely...
This is perhaps the most honest twelve minutes of television you'll see this year.
Jerry Garcia - thank you. I don't bit torrent either, and wouldn't have a chance to see this otherwise.
Stewart looked like he was ready to smack Carlson in the face a couple of times. He really kicked Carlson's ass.
You're welcome, jb, and I'll keep it up for a new cyccle. ;-)
Mac users might want to grab the DIVX codec to watch this using Quicktime.
Thanks for hosting, Jerry.
Stewart looked like he was ready to smack Carlson in the face a couple of times. He really kicked Carlson's ass.
It was amazing honesty. Was Jon Stewart drunk? You simply can't get away with that kind of direct criticism, usually. I read the transcript via Metafilter and amberglow's ; > (*sigh*) post but it doesn't do justice to Stewart's great timing and wit. The guy is smart and fast. He killed them. He lost his composure at the end but I guess I would have too.
I have this fantasy that when Tom Brokaw retires, NBC gives Stewart the job. Imagine the impact on our political discourse.
*swoons*
only the truth is really funny
in other countries, the students are the conscience of the nation
the USA, comedians
Lenny Bruce was apunk
Stewart/Chappelle '08.
Thanks for hosting, Jerry G.
Stewart exposed those two supercillious twits and their irresponsible gong show for what they are. I wouldn't have seen it otherwise.
It's strange: I don't have a TV with rabbit ears or a direct cable but Stewart's negative definition - on the fly - of their show tells me all I need to know about Crossfire. How can you defend against that kind of honesty? And they didn't help themselves any by trying. I'll be leaving this up 'til November at least so feel free to link to it folks.
Is Stewart beginning to believe his own hype? I think he came off a bit of a prick. Everything he said was true but he delivered it without his usual even-tempered wit and allowed his emotions to get the better of him. Carlson's digs really got to him and in the end he just seemed like an angry over-grown kid who's only comeback was, "Yeah, well, you're a dick!"
Still a funny guy though.
Nader/Carlin 2004
Corporate interests need a helmet for everything but beating off these days. ha ha ha ha I'm dumb
Well, Tucker Carlson *is* a dick. With a twee little ribbon tied around the head for decoration. But yeah, low hanging fruit, there.
Everything he said was true but he delivered it without his usual even-tempered wit and allowed his emotions to get the better of him.
This was not The Daily Show, my friend. He was swimming with the sharks - in the less obviously but obviously deadly middle-ocean that is CNN - and he chose to dive in where almost no one else would. And he never gave an inch and he was 100% right and got his brilliant shots in at every chance. He is a firebrand, this Jon Stewart! Talk about witty, holy SHIT!
His appearance on the O'Reilly Factor was one thing but this was altogether a much serious adventure. He's worried and it shows.
Look I think Tucker Carlson is a dick but let's admit it: he's pretty fucking beautiful. Really nice eyes and skin. I'm not joking. And any man who knows how to layer patterns gets my pass.
Does anyone know if this has been re-done in a smaller frame size for those of us stuck in dial-up purgatory?
I'll see what I can do, fatodust.
It really isn't that funny...I mean I was impressed with how much he got in but his humour wasn't at its highest levels. I suppose he hadn't a script.
ActuallySettle, Tucker Carlson's physical beauty is not in question. I'd like to come all over his face as much as you (well, maybe not as much as you) do, but that doesn't mean that he possess, or if he does possess chooses to make use of, even a modicum of journalistic integrity or common courtesy.
In fact it was anti-funny. Things are gettin' serious right about now. This administration gives a whole new meaning to "deadpan" humor.
Best I can do so far, fatoudust, is to give you a ~19MB mp3. Maybe listen to that and read the transcript.
Jerry Garcia, thank you. I did find a compressed (35MB) torrent link here:
http://bitflood.org:8080/?file=791b2f5d95a54d1381b85f271b51f71e73964185
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The audio is really good, actually. Just imagine the Crossfire guys as they always are and Stewart in a V-neck pleading for the future of his country. And the audience laughing.
Wow. Ah, thanks.
Stewart/Chappelle '08.
My new bumpersticker!
Thanks for hosting that, Jerry. It was great to watch, even if it made me physically uncomfortable. I always have that reaction when I see someone trying to speak the truth and other people laughing it off.
That was highly worth watching, thanks.
96.5 AVI? Is that like increasing the wetlands by 3 000 000?
Commercials edited out and compressed to a low bitrate Real Player file (~9MB): http://www.cyber-dyne.com/~snordby/crossfire_jonStewart.rm
In an age when even "spontaneous" television is scripted (think Jay Leno setting up standup comedian's bits when they are in the chair) perhaps the funniest thing about this is how Stewart clearly deviated from the script.
The part that made me laugh the most was actually Carlson telling Stewart to "Come back soon". Now that's good sarcasm.
mercurious - Somebody should warn Stewart that Jerry Maguire got a lot of praise for being honest, too. Right before he got the visit from Jay Mohr.
Jon Stewart's popularity continues to baffle me---he is not funny in any sense, his insights are pedestrian---he's like the "Friends" of political humor.
I heart Jon Stewart. A lot.
Now that was some refreshing television. I've never seen Crossfire before being from Canada and all but I can imagine the rhetoric that spews from the mouths of those "media" personalities just by the comments Jon Stewart made. How nice would it be if politics were that open and honest all the time instead of the circus we are subjected to each time a so called elected representative opens their yap.
A rip in the curtain. Awesome.
@davidmsc: I agree in part. I don't think he's that funny on the Daily Show. I know most of you will consider that heresy. I will say, however that he's very good interviewing and with off the cuff stuff. When he reads his lines, it just doesn't work for me.
I almost felt sorry for Carlson at points; he's so defensive he is totally unable to comprehend Stewart's point. I doubt Begala learned anything from it either.
It's this simple: if you are a journalist, stop letting people use you as a mouthpiece for their party/platform. Study the issues, and challenge the talking points. Why is this so difficult?
Seems to available in enough places and I've killed my bandwidth elsewhere recently so I am going to take it down now.
Fark done gone got it put up on iFilm - the 200k version is decent enough quality, and shouldn't hurt your computer too much. Having now watched it, I have to say it's just great. It's funny, yes, but it's the bits that aren't funny which strike home hardest. It's the last great trump card a comedian can play: being deadly serious. Maybe Stewart's burning his bridges a wee bit, because you can't be too serious for too long and still be properly funny, but for the sheer melancholic thrill of seeing him refuse to play along with their game, to see him pleading with them not to be so facile... it was worth it.
I echo everything everyone's said so far, but I want to say one thing that I haven't seen anywhere. Jon says that the politicians get away with it because the media doesn't hold their feet to the fire. He's right, but the media isn't where the rot ends. The media gets away with it because we, the people, don't hold their feet to the fire. The corruption is systemic, from the top all the way down to you and me. Politicians are corrupt because we are corrupt. The blood of countless innocent civilians, in Iraq and elsewhere, is not on the hands of the politicians and their parrot media; it is on our hands, yours and mine, Bush-voters and Gore-voters and non-voters all. I am ashamed to my core for calling myself an American. We who should not forget that the politicians and the media are nothing without us are unwilling to power down our TV sets or go out and vote. There is no America left to hurt.
What the news shows, and yes, I'm going to include O'Reilly and Crossfire in on this, don't get is that the Daily Show isn't news. They think people are getting news from the Daily Show, but they aren't, not exactly. What the Daily show does is inspire people to think. Their biggest point, as Jon Stewart tried to discuss on Crossfire but they wouldn't get it, is that the Daily Show will point out the inconsistencies in the media. How the system tries to get around your ability to think about it. And they do it, cleverly enough, with humor.
So what do people do? They watch the show, and they laugh, and later they realize that they're being lied to and manipulated. So, eventually, they start to do some looking on their own, and they see the structure that's been built up around them, to protect them from the "hard truths" of the world. They'll try to look beyond the spin, and into a reality that, while it might not be completely accurate, it's at least a reality that's achieved with some work by the viewer, and not just a reality fed to them by whomever they happen to think they agree with.
As a reward to myself for avoiding using the clichés "gateway drug" and "the emperor's new clothes" in the above, I'm cross-posting it on my own weblog.
Incidentally, for those who don't like the Daily Show's humor, what humor do you like, political or otherwise? It's not really a crime to not find something funny, not even a crime of heresy.
The media gets away with it because we, the people, don't hold their feet to the fire.
Damn. Fucking. Straight. I mean, look at the first question that was asked Stewart by the audience. It was about that stupid bulge.
We live in a free society. Bad shit happens in this society because we let it happen. We (the collective we, not necessarily any one person) are responsible for sweatshop labor, illegal immigrants, shitty healthcare, corrupt government, and apathetic media.
Jon Stewart is right about the media, but he gives the rest of us too much credit.
I didn't see it as funny. I saw it as a honest commentary on how the media can be these days and thought Jon was serious.
I don't think you can necessarily blame the public for some of what the media does when (for instance) you have Fox preventing news stories from even being aired. A few Fox reporters wanted to do a story on BSD use in cows and Fox dragged their heels for months over the potential news item demanding rewrite after rewrite. It eventually culminated in a court case and several people losing their jobs. How in that example can you hold Fox accountable when it isn't public knowledge this is going on?
loved this line: "how old are you?" "35" "and you wear a bow tie ...?"Sandspider best example would have to be first 3 seasons of madTV. George Carlin, Dennis Leary, Robin Williams come to mind as well.
Good points, everyone. We are behind the problems, ultimately. If we didn't (well, not me) give networks, like Fox, the ratings, they would be forced to make changes. It's a given. They are only giving and reporting what we, apparently, want to hear about. And yeah, when your given an opportunity to ask a question and the best you can come up with is "What about the hump...", well, you just proved Jon's point. Unfortunately, Americans don't seem to really want to know the actualities of politics, that would require an effort in thought. Plus, imagine the guilt we would all feel if we started to pay attention and realize what we have done. It's far easier to go along in our rose-colored world assuming that we are doing the right thing and not question anything too much.
I love Jon Stewart. He has taken a bit of a risk by doing what most of us wish we could do and call these media bitches out. He has a connection with reality as I see it. He represents my way of thinking and I am thankful for this little snippet of intelligence that he allowed us to experience. It must have blown him away, the sheer effort those guys made not to acknowledge what he was saying.
Jon's attitude seems like back-seat driving to me.
"I don't have to justify myself, I'm just a ___, but I've got this droll personality that I can use to make you look silly by asking you to justify yourselves."
I appreciate his message, but dislike his style (here), which, speaking of dishonesty, I find dishonest. (This clip is most of what I've seen of the guy.)
Did you catch that Stewart called Carlson a dick? That amazed me--that it wasn't censored. Though it's exactly what he is. Tucker's always inspired violent rage in me--I don't know if it's the bow-tie or what.
And those who find him cute, I much say, I don't see it. But to each his or her own.
What makes me love Stewart is that he keeps saying, over and over, "Guys, I'm a comedian! I shouldn't have to point this stuff out because you can't be bothered!" He could easily get a swelled head about being the Voice of His Generation or something, but he doesn't.
It was so awesome when he looked Tucker right in the eyes and said "I'm not going to be your monkey."
Is there a transcript anywhere? I can't do streaming stuff here at work.
Gah! And it was further up the thread. Idiot == me. :S
I see he used the line from his interview with - oh, who was it? I forget - along the lines of "Guys, come on - my show comes on after puppets making crank calls!"
I get the feeling he got sick of the whole thing by about 3/4 of the way through because they were too busy defending themselves to listen to what he was saying.
He uses that line a lot. I think the only reason Comedy Central keeps that show on the air is so he can use that line.
From rxreed's link: "Clearly this is not what John Stewart wants. If you really listen to what he says you will realize that he wants you to make up your own fucking mind. Do not base your own opinions off of those of celebrities and the media. Make up your own mind based on the facts."
Yeah.
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Think this was posted here some months ago, but I still love Stewart's Commencement Speech at William & Mary from earlier this year.
Lets talk about the real world for a moment. We had been discussing it earlier, and I…I wanted to bring this up to you earlier about the real world, and this is I guess as good a time as any. I don’t really know to put this, so I’ll be blunt. We broke it.
Please don’t be mad. I know we were supposed to bequeath to the next generation a world better than the one we were handed. So, sorry.
I don’t know if you’ve been following the news lately, but it just kinda got away from us. Somewhere between the gold rush of easy internet profits and an arrogant sense of endless empire, we heard kind of a pinging noise, and uh, then the damn thing just died on us. So I apologize.
BoingBoing post with a video of Stewart's response on TDS last night, and a WaPo article about Crossfire's response. If there was any lingering doubt about who came out of this looking good, and who looked like a dick...
'I know that, but tomorrow I will go back to being funny, and your show will still blow.'
http://bitflood.org:8080/?file=791b2f5d95a54d1381b85f271b51f71e73964185
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