I forwarded the geek link to my wife. This is her reply:
If you ever tell me what Star Trek character I resemble most, I'm divorcing you.
I think she missed the point.
Why Geek Dudes Rule
They are generally available.
Bzzt, thank you, please play again. They have standards like everybody else, ya know. I wish I could FIND a nice geek boy, but from past experience I don't look enough like Lara Croft to keep one.
The Ambrosian thing isn't so much an option as a necessity, but that's a pretty name for it! Nice.
As a geek boy, I have to tell you that if you did look like Lara Croft, I would do my best to prevent any social interaction for fear of immediate and brutal rejection.
For the record, I do not particularly like the "Lara Croft" look; otherwise I'd settle for a RealDoll™. I had a crush on Sarah Jessica Parker when she was in "Square Pegs" (and one former girlfriend actually resembled her; I lost her to a less geeky guy who was Jewish and rode motorcycles), but her "Sex in the City" look does not do much for me. My current media crush is on Cheryl Hines, partly because her character in "Curb Your Enthusiasm" puts up with a bigger jerk than I am. Why am I telling you all this?
What she says
OOPS!
Geek boys who want Lara Croft should be stayed away from, generally. There's an awful lot of crossover with those guys and the guys who cry about how nice guys finish last.
There are plenty of geeks out there who just want someone else who can be a tolerant companion who can speak the language.
fuyugare, just on behalf of humanity, thank you. What I went through was a guy hooking up with what he knew was a "substandard" woman instead, and then spending all his time telling me why I wasn't good enough and what I have to do in order to become the kind of woman he REALLY wanted. (y'know, dye my hair, get implants, dress like a superhero. I wish I were kidding.) So it's like buying a fixer-upper house and then adding all the accoutrements you wanted, because you can't afford to have a new one built.
Only with humans.
Avoidance is good, given those choices. Avoidance is VERY GOOD.
I'm saying this because I am bitter, but I'm done now.
...oh, those Ambrosian! folks want to eliminate the desire entirely. So much for that.
Oh, don't be bitter. Sounds like you're far better off. You were dating a pubescent child, obviously, but there's a world of men out there.
Any 'man' who tells a woman she needs implants should be beaten to death with his own shoe, IMO. In short, he wasn't worth your time.
Yeah, next time a guy you are seeing tells you that you need implants, tell him you'll do it when he wraps a five pound weight around his testicles for the rest of his life.
I agree with MCT, beat the crap out of any guy that treats you like that.
My last geek crush, for the record, was Alyson Hannigan's Willow on BtVS. Mostly because I have a weakness for smart, literate readheads.
All I can say to the girl from malady's link is: get a fucking blog!
I know. I am a bad bad person.
shawnj: Best response I've heard to that. Extra ))))) for the damage you caused my keyboard.
Well, beggars can't be choosers. I've learned that celibacy is better than misery, so that's that. Just an example of why that "oh, they're available" bit isn't always true.
surlyboi has good taste. :D I guess that the problem is that geek guys still outnumber hot geek girls, although the numbers are probably equalizing over time.
Even so, I think there's a gray area of possible converts. You don't necessarily have to be a hardcore geek yourself to be willing to accept a partner's hobbies or learn a little about them. A bunch of these guys probably carry around strange horrific fantasies of cheerleaders turning them down for prom dates, or something, and assume women will hate them - or assume only one of their exact kind will be accepting. I think that's limiting. Crossbreed, my brethren!
I think part of the problem is that geeky boys are mostly introverts, and so are the girls who like them. Which results in a lot of furtive glances across the room and very little hooking up.
Or maybe that's just me.
Yeah, assuming all social interaction is done in bars... but given the variety of places to meet people, as well as the entire internet, I don't know if it's the main reason.
(okay, okay, shutting up now.)
Meeting people on the Internet is not really meeting people. Also, as a guy I'm just really surprised that girls have trouble finding guys. I wanted to share this utterly unsophisticated perspective with y'all.
It's not surprising if you realize that female != hot. Then it makes perfect sense.
And I didn't mean meeting people solely on the internet; I meant arranging meetings through it. Say, a Mefi/Mofi local meetup.
I meant does not necessarily equal. I don't know how to say that in ASCII. Oops.
Ambrosian wanna-be's, meet chemical castration.
Too bad they can't come up with something to block the sex drive physically and psychologically.
Wurwilf, like Bjork says, all is full of love, maybe not from the sources you have poured yours, maybe not from the directions you are staring at...
OK having quoted song lyrics I am now officially a 14 year old girl K THX BYE
The trick to getting a geek guy .... if you think he might have the slightest possibility of being he's still a skinny fourteen year old with bad skin, and doesn't realise he's grown into a really good looking guy.
Women still put too much pressure on men to make the advances, and that's just not going to work with most geeky or nerdy men, especially if they think that they aren't good-looking (despite mirror evidence to the contrary). It's obvious why - making the first advance is frightening as all hell, and that's why geeky girls are even less likely to do it, but that way just lies lonely futures for us all.
I guess this is advice for geeky guys too - for all of us. That's not to say it's easy - there is still much scope for being rejected - geeks do have high standards, often higher than many non-geeky, esp when it comes to conversation and interests. But sometimes it does work.
That said, I have a few geeky single male friends, should any women are interested in being set up :)
Sorry - something crazy must have happened to my brain when I was writing that first sentance, considering it's gibberish. I meant to say, that if you think he has any interest, then you must approach him, because he probably won't (what with picturing himself as the aformentioned skinny fourteen year old, rather that the attractive man he is today).
fuyugare: it's not that girls have trouble meeting guys. they have trouble meeting guys they like. uh, speaking for myself.
Ume's also (like me) picky as hell. =P
I have trouble meeting guys (if by "I have trouble" one means "I am completely incapable of"), but I know I'm ugly as sin and I don't blame them. I've amicably given up and I wish my brethren the best with their cute girlfriends, present and future.
Just being cantankerous about the assumption that "all" women can easily find interested counterparts. Not all. Most, maybe, but not all.
I've seen your pic wur, don't sell yourself short.
All right, some of the other points, sure, but what's wrong with dressing up like a superhero? Not all the time, obviously. What? I'm just sayin', is all.
yeah wurwilf...there are no "ugly as sin" monkeys here.
and surly, why does "picky" sound so negative? ;)
Kidding (on the square) aside, one important thing to realize is that geeks are people, too. Yes, they (well...we) all have their individual foibles and, to a greater or lesser extent, difficulty dealing with other people. It's not always the same with each person, so you have to look closely.
Oh, and Wurwilf, before you read this, bear in mind that I'm not saying your ex wasn't a big jerk and such. I'm adding in some counterpoint for other, similar situations, because the relationship stuff is complicated and a lot of "any time this happens, do this" advice is being given. I'm not big on absolutes. And I'm not saying "You, Wurwilf," so much as "You, reader who may want to take some advice." So, with the disclaimers happily out of the way, on with the post:
As for the fix-er-upper boyfriend mentioned above, there was definitely too little information given to get any sort of coherent analysis of the situation (presuming you were looking for anything aside from support or a chance to tell a relevant anecdote). It's certainly not uncommon for geek and non-geek people of both sexes to recommend changes to their significant others. Usually it's style of dress ("Maybe less t-shirts with logos, more button down shirts"/"Have you considered wearing pleated mini-skirts?"), often it's hair ("Long is okay, but it's good to add some style into it as well"/"How about curling your hair?"), sometimes facial hair ("Ditch the soul patch. Seriously."/"I'm not really into bearded ladies. How 'bout you leave the circus and we get you an account with the local waxing salon?"). The difficulty with many geeks is that they have a difficult time communicating, and they don't necessarily know where the line is.
Why so difficult finding a line? Well, some young ladies love the idea of breast implants. Many think it's a poor idea. Some absolutely hate it. Some are intrigued. Personally, I could do without them, but it's not really my decision. There are a couple of ways to find out where the line is, but geeks are, again, not necessarily good at the subtleties. Often they prefer to go straight to the heart of the matter, rather than working around it. Takes less time, but some people react negatively to that approach.
There's nothing wrong with making suggestions to a person about how they might change if you think they'll look better by doing so. The problem come when you decide that change isn't for you, then the person doesn't think you're good enough. It's a subtle difference, perhaps, but an important one. If someone isn't interested in you the way you are, obviously that's not going to work for medium- to long-term. If someone has an Anime fetish and wants you to dye your hair purple, well, if you can swing it without losing your job or alienating your teachers or whatever, then why not try it for a few days/weeks. If you hate it, dye it back. Sure, your hair is going to be damaged, and if that's a big problem for you, then don't do it.
I've also know people who get upset if they don't receive input from their SO on how they could be better. They feel that it shows a lack of commitment to the relationship, or somesuch. If you've been with someone like that, you may be worried the next time you're in a relationship that you'd better have some input, or you may lose another one or at least be yelled at some more. Then there are the people who want just the right amount of encouragement to do something, maybe something they've wanted to do, but have been too nervous to do. They want someone to break them out of their shell, and do it in a way that is gentle and flattering, not naggy and harsh. People, in short, are a pain.
I just thought I'd add that in.
*pops zit*
*looks for kleenex*
*gets distracted by Star Trek figure collection*
*spends half-hour mixing and matching plastic heads and torsos, bleeding from the forehead*
Iamnotageek. I don't know how to code; I can't program for nuts. Iamnotageek.
flowers, but the geek girl is not average, and may not wish to be bothered with something so transient. A Star Trek mousepad would last much longer. Thinking of getting her a necklace? Why not a new sound card instead? A makeup table would not get much use, but a new computer desk would probably see her more than you do. Use your brain when choosing the gifts; that's what she likes you for, anyway.
I am so a geek. *sigh*
Wish I'd known about geek girls when I was young... Could have carried on with the C++... Maybe even opened that book about machine code... Needn't have got contact lenses... or those weights... The SF convention posters could have stayed... Could have gone on wearing t-shirts... Y-fronts... Oops, the on-line disinhibition effect is kicking in again...
Women still put too much pressure on men to make the advances,
Lordy, lordy, lordy yes.
My wife asked me to marry her (and bought me a ring, since, hey, the person who asks, buys, the person who said yes, wears). She was, at her workplace, almost besieged by women under 35 who wanted to know the secret, since they wanted to marry their long-term partners and
a) assumed she meant "got him to ask me" and
b) when it got through to them she hadn't, announced it was too scary to ask.
FFS. It's too scary, so I'll cop out, then become unhappy/angry/whatever that he doesn't? What is this, 1890?
Oh, I understand there wasn't enough info - I was just making the point that geek guys are not always available. They're way out of my league, and that was my illustration thereof.
(yeah, the missing information is that I really am ugly as sin, and no human with half a brain could like me as I am. And he lacks tact - not maliciously, but cluelessly. I'm not out to crucify the guy. He tried where no one else would, and we stayed friends for quite a while afterward. and now I am DONE. I only meant to say that geek guys are way out of some of our leagues, to counter that "universally available" image. They're universally available if you're hot, but so are all men.)
That gift advice is just good advice; I love that. "So what if it's a blender? I need a blender."
Meeting people on the Internet is not really meeting people.
Are you on a different Internet than I am? I've totally met people online that have become good friends in "real life."
Same here. I've lost count of the people that I've met over the internet who've become friends in real life as well (including my current SO).
I am so a geek. *sigh*
We love you anyway, Ned...
And Ume, I say picky like it's a bad thing because in a way, it is. I'll drop you a line later.
Wow, MoFi becomes a surrogate for email... there's a meta-discussion in there somewhere...
So what I meant by that comment is that if your interactions with someone are limited to Internet media, then you'll never really have engaged in the out-of-band high-bandwidth medium of face-to-face interaction. Sure, Internet meetings could lead to friendships in the meat, so to say ('meatings'?). Anyway, I got nothing.
I fear, Wurlwilf, that your problem is more likely low self-esteem rather than bad looks. Especially considering testimony from the above Monkey. However, I don't know you, and I don't know your situation. I do know that the endless variations on people mean that there really aren't leagues to be out of, that's just a device to explain a certain percentage of behavior. I would be sad to learn if you turned down a future opportunity, whether accidentally or purposefully, because you feel you aren't good enough for anybody.
Looks aren't everything, personality isn't everything, intellect isn't everything, interests aren't everything, dress sense isn't everything. People require a certain amount of compatibility, that means a combination of factors that likely won't work out for quite a while. There are times when it may seem to work out, then long-term you discover it doesn't. There are times when it doesn't seem as if it's going to work out, and then it does. I'm not necessarily recommending trying to find someone, because that may not be your style. But if someone comes along, and you push him away because he couldn't possibly be interested, then ghosts of dead geeks who never had girlfriends will haunt you for the rest of your living days, quoting monty python and making snorting noises whenever you hook up your TiVO wrong. Or something.
When I was single-and-wild, geek guys were usually a good bet: socially awkward, sure, but sweet, shy, romantic. A lot of work training, but enthusiastic and uninhibited in bed. Just couldn't go out dancing with 'em most of the time. =)
But now t3h Intarw3b is the haven for geek guys and they run in packs - they've gotten even more socially awkward (based on the fact that they can be assholes online and still be anonymous, thus venting any pent-up geek/nerd frustration), have their sights set way way above their ability to pair off with (pr0n effect - this is what women should look like/be like, right?), and cynicism has replaced romance, because it's cooler to be snotty than sweet.
When you see a bunch of teenage boys lining up on, say, Fark to judge whether they'd "hit it/wouldn't hit it" or bitch about how unattractive a girl is if she doesn't wax off all her pubes (when they've never gotten near a real cooch if their lives depended on it) - and you realize that ten or even fifteen years ago the same types of boys were the ones that, out of most of the boys out there, managed to combine a very chivalrous view of women mixed with a very feminist perspective, well....
Disclaimer: This is all in my experience, I'm generalizing like crazy here. But it does seem very different for boys and girls today than it was when I was younger.
I think you are confusing geeks and jerks (not that there isn't some overlap). Now that the Internet is about as mainstream as things get, it has its fair share of the dregs of society. I say don't judge geeks by behaviour you see on Fark.
Just as an example, and less scary than judging geeks by behavior seen on anime-nerd or furry sites. ;)
Ah, so you want to club all those you consider social deviants into one big happy category of 'geek'? Be my guest! We geeks are a big-tent party.
I'll second fuyugare. I know plenty of geeks, and only a few of them are jerks. The nicer the person, generally the quieter and less likely to call attention to himself he is online.
HEY EVERYBODY LOOK AT MEEEEEEEE!!11!! HAH HAHA HAH FUCK YOUSE LUSERSS!!11! HAAA HA HA!!
Q.E.D.
Jeffk would be proud...
I'm currently on the prowl for a geek, myself. (I can't configure my wireless.) Actually, is there a difference between geeks and nerds, and which one would be more likely to give me a Gmail account?
Check your email, cynn.
rogerd - good story. I, too, did the proposing, and bought the rings, but that was because I was the one with cash that day :)
Sandspider - I love your quote - "then ghosts of dead geeks who never had girlfriends will haunt you for the rest of your living days". That's how I feel when people complain that they only dated one or two people in high school (I dated none, but things are good now.)
Geeks are picky - it's good when it means not really wanting to date someone you have nothing in common with (I always thought pick-up lines should consist of listing personal libraries to look for compatibility, but I'm funny that way), or going out with someone just to have a warm body, without caring on both sides.
But it's not good when our ideas of what we want are too definate. Sometimes you might start seeing someone you aren't crushing on. But if they are interesting, you enjoy spending time with them, and you could see yourself as attracted to them, then it's worth giving it a chance. What do you have to lose? And you have the potential of love to gain. Relationships are the same - give them time to flower - instead of being swept off your feet right away, you just might wake up one day and find that the most wonderful person in the world has been there for the last year, waiting patiently. (And then moves half-way across the world, dammit.)
Oh - and I got a wireless card and a book on university politics for my birthday! That guide to Geek girls is good, but it should remember that paper nerds (like us humanists and social scientists) are pretty much the same, but won't be found in labs - libraries and community weblogs with a lot of discussion of society are better places to look.
It was a joke. Hence, the "winky" emoticon.
Actually, it IS looks. Personality is important, but only if that qualification of good looks is already met; otherwise it's useless. And my case is not low self-esteem. Some of us earn our low opinions of ourselves; it isn't always please-tell-me-I'm-pretty stupidity. Some of us really, truly are stop-the-clock ugly. Ask any Farker - some women are dogs, the end. Yet most non-jerks insist that we don't exist, meaning that only the people I don't want to be around will acknowledge my existence. Define: frustrating.
Self: GYOWFW! Done. ;)
GYOWFW
Get Your Own <W> Fucking Wanker? What is that W? Woman? World? Wainscotting? Wyvern? Weblog?
Some of us really, truly are stop-the-clock ugly.
Rare. Very rare. At least to people who don't believe that the only pretty people are in magazines.
Get Your Own War For W?
Oh, and some of the hottest women I've known have been ugly personalitywise...
Get Your Own Weblog, FuckWit. As seen on MeFi.
Geez, I'm starting to think we need to set up a therapy session for Wurwilf. This is not the only thread that she has written in this same exact vein.
Wurwilf.......where to begin......Love starts from within. Yea, I know that sounds like a cliche', but that's only because it's true. If you carry the same kind of attitude that you have been carrying, well then, you'll probably not have a whole lotta success in the relationship area. Frankly, no one wants to hear this kind of attitude over and over. I'm not trying to be insensitive to your baggage, but it is your baggage. Believe it or not, it can be unloaded. Learn to love yourself. Positive things I know about you; You have a wonderfully dark sense of humour. You stand up for the underdog. Your obviously intelligent and witty.
I get all that just by having read some of your comments in the short time you've been here. But something else I've noticed about you, you always seem to be downing yourself. It gets tiring after awhile. Imagine how it would be if someone you were close had to listen to that day in and day out.
So, start by loving yourself. Everyone has baggage. Everyone is their own worst critic when it comes looks, success, personalities, etc.... Men are not all bad. I suspect that you may not be giving them a chance because your so busy shooting them or yourself down before the opportunity arrises. Stop it!:)
Some of the hottest women I've known have been on fire.
Err, I mean... hmm... what are we talking about again?
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Personally, I would be rated as way too fat by Fark-boys, but I've been lucky enough to find someone who thinks round girls are sexy. I don't really like muscles on a guy, but a sway back and bow legs is cute. My mum has been hit on by guys who like women to look like prehistoric goddess statuettes. I know I look in the mirror, and only see my faults - fortunately, not everyone else sees that when looking at me.
ord) can have profound social and psychological consequences. People who live with a visible disfigurement know that, sometimes, physical appearance is anything but a trivial issue.
Having said that, I am of the opinion that it is our duty, as human beings, to rise above the limitations imposed upon us. I think part of the point of this post is that the world is full of opportunities, if only you keep a broad mind about where to look.
While I have the floor, I want to solicit advice from the wise people here: I have a very good friend who is, I would say, very eligible. Young, brilliant, kindly, an excellent cook... but painfully shy and a little off-putting until you get to know him. He's very lonely, but we're in a very old-fashioned university town where the rearguard of patriarchy is alive and well and, consequently, females are a minority. Does anyone here have any ideas about how I might help my friend?
sorry, begining got cut off there. Here is the first paragraph again:
Wurwilf is right. Some people genuinely are ugly; it's not a nice word, but there's no getting around the fact that this is a real problem. Indeed, some people are so unsightly that they face terrible social stigma and are, essentially, handicapped due to the way they look. This is frequently a problem for burn victims, for example. Faces are so important to the way humans communicate, a serious disfigurement (I think we're supposed to call them 'differences' now, which strikes me as a horrible weasel word) can have profound social and psychological consequences. People who live with a visible disfigurement know that, sometimes, physical appearance is anything but a trivial issue.
Having said that... (and the rest is intact above)
Dreadnought, my advice would be to throw parties, initiate meet-ups, coordinate gatherings of some kind. Invite more women than men, and include your friend among the men. Provide an opportunity for him to shine (i.e., ask him to help with the cooking and point out what he made, get him to tell a favorite anecdote, etc.) and basically let the women see in him what you see. There isn't a very big difference between playing host and playing matchmaker, both involve making sure everyone has a good time.
I have a very good friend who is, I would say, very eligible. Young, brilliant, kindly, an excellent cook
You're talking about me, aren't you?
It probably says something about me, but I read Darshon's comment to be "Men are not all bald".
Before this thread disappears, I just want to say that my very first date was with a geek in high school. He wrote a column for the school newspaper called "Simon Satyr" which was always nixed by the advisor. He asked me out to McDonald's to help me with algorithms (sp?!). My grandmother was so excited she took me to Dillard's and bought me a black chiffon dress with flounces! How totally embarrassing for a punky snoot like me who did NOT need men! As I recall, he wore a stovepipe hat and a formal coat, the kind with the big split that goes to the knees. He was very inscrutable, and I was flustered. He was my first real guy experience, and he set the tone for the future, I believe. Looks and appearence? He was kind of scrawny and abrupt, but those things are transient. We wound up arguing the whole evening, never advancing my math smarts, but when I got home, my purse was stuffed with post-its.
Before this thread disappears, I just want to say that my very first date was with a geek in high school. He wrote a column for the school newspaper called "Simon Satyr" which was always nixed by the advisor. He asked me out to McDonald's to help me with algorithms (sp?!). My grandmother was so excited she took me to Dillard's and bought me a black chiffon dress with flounces! How totally embarrassing for a punky snoot like me who did NOT need men! As I recall, he wore a stovepipe hat and a formal coat, the kind with the big split that goes to the knees. He was very inscrutable, and I was flustered. He was my first real guy experience, and he set the tone for the future, I believe. Looks and appearence? He was kind of scrawny and abrupt, but those things are transient. We wound up arguing the whole evening, never advancing my math smarts, but when I got home, my purse was stuffed with post-its.
oops, yes it was that meaningful.
I also recommend that women ask out the geek of their choice. Many years ago I went to a party at a friend's house and met his new roommate. The roommate turned out to be a strange and fun gentleman, an excellent cook, and he had a copy of one of my favorite albums, The Carl Stalling Project (music from Warner Brothers cartoons). At 4am this strange gentleman put on an even stranger hat and misted his extensive plant collection while dancing around, talking to and playing with the cat. At that point a bolt of lightning hit me and I knew I had to ask him out. Three years later we got hitched.
So female geek-o-philes, ask 'em out. It really works.
Wurwilf - I think you must have some confidence in yourself or you wouldn't have been able to confess your feelings to a bunch of relative strangers. It's also apparent from your previous comments that you're an interesting person, as others have mentioned. Finally, I found out early in life that people who aren't conventionally attractive can become beautiful if they allow others to know their intelligence, talents, eccentricies and humor. Immediate attaction is generally physical, but the longer lasting relationships depend more on the ability to access one's personality. Shinything got it in one. And three years of getting to know each other seems really good to me.
I'm not saying it's easy, but starting a conversation that isn't bent toward a date, but just toward a chat about the things that make you special and that make him special can lead to at least friendship, and maybe more. And it might take many chats to get to more.
And, you may think that's easy for me to say, but it does reflect my experience.
My first boyfriend asked me out cos he saw me carrying a Heinlein novel (or Asimov, memory is abit fuzzy on that bit). He thought a girl who would read sci-fi couldn't be all fluff and nonsense. We had a good five years together.
So: carry along something you like, even if it seems rather geeky. You never know if someone sees it and realises that you're not just another (not so) pretty face.
Oh, and one more thing and I think most people will agree with this; Love walks into your life when you least expect it. So, basically, stop looking and live life! The best things will come to you.
I wonder if we should start International Date-a-Geek Day ? Every eligible lady would be duty-bound to ask out a geek of her choice on that day, and any geek without a prior engagement would be obliged to accept on pain on being haunted by the ghosts of, etc.
Oh, and no saying "Me - a geek?"
dng: young (check!), kindly (check!), brilliant (check!), an excelent cook (um... never tasted his cooking, but lets give him the benefit of the doubt), offputting (not in the least!)
all this discussion...
i found this essay on lewrockwell.com about the glories of meek men.
/or all you self-alleged geek types, i suspect.
Sorry, I'll be quiet. I had stopped reading this thread because I thought I was talking too much - I see my suspicion was true. Sorry about that!
Sorry, I'll be quiet. I had stopped reading this thread because I thought I was talking too much - I see my suspicion was true. Sorry about that!
Hah!, Wurwilf. Don't be sorry for that. There's nothing wrong with it.
Oh, I understand there wasn't enough info - I was just making the point that geek guys are not always available. They're way out of my league...
Are you a snooty anorexic chick that loves shopping, hates viodegames and action movies, can't think or make decisions by yourself, just wanna get married and have lots of children and do nothing else with your life? If you comply with three or more of those things then you are out of my league.
You know, the only kind of geek girls that I have dumped are the ones to like to complain too much about life being unfair with them because they are geeks. If they are geeky then life has given them something they should be really proud about.
If you comply with three or more of those things then you are out of my league.
I mean, backwards. If you comply with any of those things then I am out of your league. hahaha.
I'll sign on board for Date A Geek Day! I've been looking for a nice young man with glasses and weird t-shirts to snuggle on the couch with me as we watch "Army of Darkness." (If he can cook that's a major bonus).
Odd ... I'm looking for an Army of Darkness that will cook nice young men for me.
Mojo - I'm sure that if you put that in a personal ad - especially one that would show on a site like The Onion, or Slashdot, you would have geek with glasses and Bruce Campbell obsessions breaking down your door :)
How about those cameos in Spiderman 2, eh? I'm not a huge fan of Campbell, but I love Ted Raimi!
I did enjoy the cameos in Spidey 2. Bruce can do smarmy very well.
And Ted is great; late one night I saw a film starring him as a guy whose entire apartment is covered in foil. Never did find out the name of it.
They've made a movie of that already? Didn't it just happen this year? (Actually, I ended up reading this interview with the guy who did that to his friend's apartment - it was great stuff - he is a very funny man, though I don't know if he is single or not.) Where did you see this?
Or was it about something else - does art imitate life, or life art?
That movie, Mojo is Lunatics: A Love Story. And it's one of my favorite Raimi flicks. Bruce is in that one as well, doing the smarmy thing to great effect.
Was that the one with the guy that grew an third arm out of his back?
"Odd ... I'm looking for an Army of Darkness that will cook nice young men for me."
oh man thats good. Laughing too hard. I just came across this thread at work, it was linked in a newer thread where I actually read the comments. And man, this is a new MonkeyFilter for me. The stories, complainents, encouragements, I feel like some kind of self-help group, and its wonderful!
Here is my own takings on the topic-as-a-whole. I am a geek (duh). I have no problem approaching women and starting a conversation, or asking for a date, or asking for more. The problem comes when I actually like the woman. If I have an emotional or intellectual attraction to them, it is utter paralysis.
A typical encounter. I meet a young women, we talk, I totally dig her, and want to ask her out. Fear, panic, silence. The chatting continues for quite awhile until the appropriate time to ask for a date or... other encounter is long past. Then, long after it was appropriate, I stumble out a half-request for dinner the following night. All of this sometimes happens in a single night, with the eventual, clumsy request being given while watching the sunset from the top of the moon rock (local funspot). Man I hate missed chances.
Anyways, my advice, which I have started trying, is to ask for a date first, and get to know the woman later. If I end up not interested, no second date, I just tell her no thanks. If I am attracted to her, then great! I am already in. I just cannot cannot cannot grow to like someone and then ask them out later, it doesn't work.
Oh yeah, I want to comment on the ugliness thing that is going round and round. I think most people are ugly to some, some are ugly to most, and none are ugly to all. You can decide whether this has anything to do with fooling people some of the time.
Moon rock? You're not from Santa Cruz, are you?
And I think far too many people are ugly to themselves.
SC it is actually, live in the vicinity? I spent part of childhood in Ben Lomand, fine town, except for them mountain folk and their Nazi parties.
Lived in Scotts Valley/SC for 3.5 years, came back to NZ at the start of last year. Mountain people are weird.
Hey, we could combine International Date A Geek Day with International Talk Like a Pirate Day!
If you comply with three or more of those things then you are out of my league.I mean, backwards. If you comply with any of those things then I am out of your league. hahaha.