April 22, 2004

• Let me be the first to say: What an asshole.
• rafter: if these were ads against bush, would you feel the same? just wondering. is it what he's doing or who he's bashing that bugs you?
• And apparently a nutjob too: "In the early 1990's I was introduced, by my brother, to eschatology which consumed my interest for much of the nineties." This is a guy who thinks a Kerry presidency would delay the end of the world. I don't disagree with him on that. But he thinks that's a BAD thing. Fuck 'em.
• Well, on one paw, this is kinda neat. Some guy managed to drive his vision of political support through to fantastical levels. On the other paw, how the hell can an individual create 7-10 ads with his own money? Don't these cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to create? (disclaimer: I cannot view the ads from my linux box, so I can't speak to their quality) Finally, if moveon.org's ads can get censured for being improper, why not these? Oh, and the google ads at the bottom of the page? Dubya Dolls Dress-up Set Poke fun at the [p]Resident. Fridge magnet George Bush doll. Hilarious! www.dubyadolls.com So, heh to you, sir.
• What an asshole. Yeah, Windows Media Video files? UCK!!
• Oh, and boo, I haven't seen this guy's ads, but so far it doesn't seem like he's comparing Kerry to Hitler or anything like Moveon had. That might explain the censure surrounding Moveon...
• Well, he is calling him a socialist and throwing the word 'fascist' around Can I be the second to say 'What an asshole?' I can? Thanks.
• f8x: the 'hitler' ad was submitted and pretty quickly pulled. if you've seen it (which i doubt) you've seen it hosted on somebody elses site (likely the RNC). the "censure" surrounding moveon was related to a wholly unrelated ad, and to the networks not wanting to send a "controversial" message, the thought ostensibly being that questioning a standing president on policy is "controversial".
• HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! He's calling on John Kerry to testify for the 9/11 commision for ignoring memos that would have prevented the attacks. What a nutcase! And I used to have to go to the Onion for news like this....
• Assholery nothwithstanding, freedom of speech "for me but not for thee" is a contradiction in terms. If the guy's got something to say and he has the means to say it and he doesn't violate any strictures of the medium and he can get a medium to air it, he has a right to be heard. I mean, I don't agree with nearly anything that Moveon has to say, but I can't deny their right to say what they see fit, so long as they don't engage in libel. This is what the free marketplace of ideas is all about. Were Kerry (or anyone) to be elected without the electorate having as much information as is possible on the man is a disservice to the voters and to our democracy in general. Regarding the censure of controversial advertising, I don't know. Part of me says that if the Moveon ad(s?) in question were libelous or (perhaps) grossly inflammatory, then the network was right to refuse to air them. If the refusal was solely politically motivated, then it is not good, for the same reason (abrogating the free market of ideas). However, like it or not networks are private industries, not government mouthpieces, and as such I would think they'd have a right to deny any ad they deemed deniable, without having to show cause (no one, after all, has the right to tell a private business who they must or must not do business with - the old "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" idea). At the same time, Moveon is certainly within their rights to offer the same advertising to other networks and media outlets. I've seen Moveon ads, I don't think any medium is blackballing them out of hand. As for us, if we're going to start outing assholes in politics, we'd be smart to bring a lunch, because it's going to be a loooooong day :)
• I think this is great. Although I didn't see any of the beginning of true grassroots influence. It looks like one motivated nutter, nutting away. "NOW WITH PROFFESIONAL VOICE OVER" I'm going to add to his meager numbers and download one.
• shall we say... crabgrassroot influence?
• I just have to say - freelance writer or no, what law student can afford this type of thing? My call of "asshole" stems from jealousy. And the fact that the ads seem like bunk. Not that I could watch them either. Love the picture link, SideDish, btw.
• This is a guy who thinks a Kerry presidency would delay the end of the world. I don't disagree with him on that. But he thinks that's a BAD thing. This character's support for Bush could turn in to (yet another) embarassment for him. Although Bush's rather chilling comment to Woodward about not worrying over his place in History becasue "we'll all be dead then" may suggest that this guy is one of the few who really gets W.'s core philosophy right.
• certainsome1: I think he's not "throwing it around" - that implies a loosely bandied term carelessly applied. I don't see that in the link you supplied. A well-reasoned argument, yes. I'm not saying he's right, just that it's important to distinguish between the two modes of information dispersal. He seems to be going about it at least somewhat responsibly.
• Verdict: Well. It's not proffessional: this is the opposite of bushflash. I grabbed the most popular one: Ad number 5. Should be his best work, over two thousand downloads. breakdown: Still of Kerry eating Pizza The national Journal ranks Kerry "The most liberal senator, more liberal than Ted Kennedy." Still of Kerry hugging Ted. {This is a no-budget operation people} Voiceover: The New York Times calls John Kerry a liberal democrat. Still: Kerry and EVIL Dean. Points for superimposing the phrase: "Liberal democrat" and the source, including a date. Kerry voted against the miltary. Voted for the largest tax increase ever. No footnote telling you which one it was. Probably the future tax increase that will be made to pay for this war, the tax cuts, to clean up the environment, to pay to regulate the meat industry And the fixing our education system needs. LIBERAL DEMOCRAT. If this is the best a Rebuplican lawyer can come up with, his client is in trouble. Fes: You haven't seen the Moveon ads?
• I'm pretty sure I've seen a couple, but don't ask me to tell which ones. I don't watch a lot of TV (a busy job, small energetic kids at home when I get there, big yard and it's springtime, etc) and what I do watch I typically tape and blaze through the commercials. Not sure if I'd have seen the ads that were rejected, probably not I'd guess.
• If this is the best a Rebuplican lawyer can come up with, his client is in trouble. Well, in his defense, lawyers are only used to fooling 12 people at a time :D
• Who needs tv? The ads I like aren't going to be shown on the box, but moveon is nice enough to host some of the ads ones on their website. My favorites are in the funniest section of their finalists web page The Bush suck is very bizzaro and my personal fav is the If Your Parents Acted Like Bush. I would love to see ads like these from anybody, politics is pure comedy gold. Some of the other finalists are uh, not so good. The censorship stink is over the ad titled Child's Play not being played during super bowl. Moveon has moved on (heh) to other ads and activities, but there is more info from their press page. It's not like they declared war on viacom or anything.
• . . and finally, boo_radley: Well, on one paw, this is kinda neat. and the winner is . . *shakily rips open envelope* . . Oh my God, it's boo_radley for Most Ruliest Post in This Thread!! (*monkey hooting*) Allright! >cue_music
• smiles for camera as boo_radley takes the stage.