February 10, 2010

Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies A post from Feminists With Disabilites/Forward. I didn't write this but I think everyone should read it.
  • Thanks for that link, indigorain. The blog in general has some eye-opening posts that I look forward to reading.
  • interesting read..thanks... I've interacted with a number of students for whom I knew being neuroatypical (this was, actually, a new word for me) was an issue, I understood their responses...and filtered them accordingly... this article did make me do some thinking about interactions where I wasn't as aware of a disability...
  • That's neuroatypical? I've seen plenty of places on the Web where that's considered perfectly normal.
  • I see the problem, but I'm not sure I understand why the appropriate (vacuous/false) response can't be learned, based on recurring previous negative feedback.
  • Marvelous, ft. Even if you're neuroatypical, unless you were raised by apes, you don't need to say this: “I think it tastes like shit. This is one of the most awful pies I have ever had. The crust tastes like cardboard sopped with simple syrup and the filling tastes like pureed ass.” You could say: It's a bit bland for my tastes. Maybe next time more cinnamon? Oh, and EVERYONE, neuroatypical or not--'How are you' is the opening gambit. The only response needed is 'Fine, thanks'. MonkeyFilter: I see the problem, but I'm not sure I understand why the appropriate (vacuous/false) response can't be learned, based on recurring previous negative feedback.
  • Yeah, she's just an asshole, and it's baloney to pull the "it's okay that I'm a dick, I have a note from my doctor" card. She obviously does understand what's wrong in all of those examples, she wouldn't have been able to use them as examples. But I'll explain the function of those question. It is polite to demonstrate to show some interest in a person, but it's impolite to try to pry and invade their privacy. The question "How are you?" demonstartes concern without forcing someone to reveal anything they don't want. Likewise, its impolite to pass off your problems to someone else. "I'm fine" is a response that leaves you in charge of carrying your own baggage. (And calling herself "neuro-atypical" maybe does give her freedom to be a dick to everyone, but it also gives her the responsibility of happily accepting everyone talking just as dickily to her.)
  • Would neuroatypical be considered oddnormal?
  • Hello!! MonkeyFilter: in charge of carrying your own baggage
  • Doing dishes to Mr.Noface. Thanks Dan! Always glad to find a new tune for the playlist.
  • Well, I wouldn't say she's "just an asshole", but it does seem a bit off, somehow. Maybe she's oversimplifying to get a point across, using examples that she has already figured out. Really it all sounds just ass-burger-ish.
  • You neuromantypicals are conveniently forgetting that this pie does taste like shit. And whenever I ask why it is that the filling tastes like pureed ass, you scream, "the reflex is an only child - he's waiting in the park!" and run out of the room. I prefer the OLD roatypical, frankly.
  • I don't think the whole pie thing is okay, fwiw. I think anyone should know better than that. I was more interested in her responses to "how are you." I had a very hard time learning that "how are you" is just a social nicety... people really don't want to know the real answer, usually. In fact it used to really bother me if I said "how are you" and the other person never answered, even if they were a stranger.
  • However much the author of this more antisocial than neuro-anything, I for one HATE the 'greeting as a question' - "How are you?", "How's things?", "What's up?", "How ya doin'?" - when the asker is expecting a polite "Fine. You?" instead of really wanting to know anything about you. And I have felt this way since my college days when I won 3rd place in an essay writing contest with an Art-Buchwald-esque humor piece about a fictional organization protesting Useless Social Amenities (U.S.A.s) by intentionally taking them way too seriously. (You ask "How am I?" and I pull out a copy of my complete medical records.) I think you have inspired me to do something...
  • Well what about "goodbye" - ? I mean, what is so fucking good about it? And where did you buy it, anyway? And why should I have to go and buy something good just to stop talking to some asshole who tastes like pie? And can someone explain "excuse me"? What kind of shit-dripping pimple-fucker actually orders a person to excuse them for sneezing or coughing or vomiting up pus? I will NOT excuse you just because you order me to, you pile of ass-pile pie. OK - so what about "I'm sorry your wife died" - ? I mean, are you actually sorry? Did you know her? Were you, like, having an affair with her or something? And did YOU kill her and stuff her body in the boot of my car, and drive out to the pier and dump her corpse in the lake? I mean, if anyone should be apologising, it's me, right? You fucking pinhole piehole asspole.
  • Hi quiddy!
  • Hi mothy!
  • Hey guys! Howya' doin'? *oops* MonkeyFilter: Really it all sounds just ass-burger-ish. MonkeyFiler: You fucking pinhole piehole asspole. Ouch, harsh! *in tagline heaven*
  • Hi BlueHorse!
  • "How ya doin'?" That's what the walker quickly asked after I took a full swell foop off my bike when I BROKE MY WRIST, afterall.
  • Hey quidster!
  • When I was younger, we had a short name for people who were neuroatypical. The term was 'weirdo'. Many's the time my head would turn when I heard that word called...
  • Hi Pallas!
  • Hi Quiddy! How are you?
  • Hi Quiddy! Hi Mr. Knicks! How are you? OH GREAT NOW I HAVE NO RIFLE THROUGH MY MENTAL NOTES TO THINK ABOUT OTHER SETTINGS IN WHICH THE QUESTION YOU ASKED HAS BEEN ASKED AND (A) CONSIDER RESPONSES WHICH WERE GREETED APPROVINGLY; (B) CONSIDER RESPONDES WHICH WRE NOT GREETED APPROVINGLY; AND (C) ASK MYSELF WHETHER THE INQUIRING PARTY IS ASKING BECAUSE THAT PARTY REALLY WANTS TO KNOW OR, IN THE ALTERNATE, WHETHER THAT PARTY BEING THE PARTY ABOVEMENTIONED IS PUTTING THE HERETOFORMENTIONED INQUIRY FOR SOME OTHER REASON. IF THE MENTAL STRAIN OF CONSIDERING THE AFOREMENTIONED QUESTION CAUSES ME TO DIE VIA THE OPERATION OF A STRESS-INDUCED ANEURYSM I HOPE THAT YOU WILL INTERPRET MY SILENCE, GRUNTS, GROANS, FATAL EXPIRATION OR TERMINAL BOWEL-MOVEMENT AS AN ADEQUATE RESPONSE TO YOUR INTERROGATORY ABOVEMENTIONED. Other than that, I'm pretty good.
  • I have to confess, when asked "How are you?", am sometimes heard to respond "I don't know yet; the tests haven't come back" Some people don't have a sense of humour. Hi Quiddy - my question is "How aren't you?"
  • MonkeyFilter: I HOPE THAT YOU WILL INTERPRET MY SILENCE, GRUNTS, GROANS, FATAL EXPIRATION OR TERMINAL BOWEL-MOVEMENT AS AN ADEQUATE RESPONSE
  • Hi Ed! I aren't bad.