March 14, 2008
Tommy Westphall's Mind: A Multiverse Explored.
An incredibly intricate diagram and key showing how 282 TV shows link to the St. Elsewhere universe via character crossovers, and therefore only existed in the mind of one autistic child.
To an old TV junkie like me, this is pure geekout gold.
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BUT IT TURNED OUT TO BE ALL A DREAM!!!111!1!
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i plan to have coffee for breakfast tomorrow.
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I searched and everything! Oh, well, consider it a re-run. Or, like Tommy imagining Bob Hartley imagining Dick Loudon, a dream within a dream. Corn flakes.
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Ashley Alexandra Dupré.
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I'm having coffee now. About to go find something solid.
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okay, I've never seen this St Elsewhere thing, but if Battlestar Galactica and Buffy are connected, I need to know. But I'm skeptical - everyone knows the Buffyverse is its own place, and we don't even know what century BSG is set it (yet).
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Okay, since clearly the most important aspect of all these connections are the scifi, that's where I will concern myself. The connections are very loose and questionable. So St Elsewhere's has a character crossover with Cheers, and Cheers obviously is the same universe as Frasier, and the main character from the John Laroquette show comes up on Frasier, and then John Laroquette references something called Yoyodyne, which is from a Thomas Pynchon novel as a fictional defence contractor (and now the name of some real companies, so you are never even sure if they are referring to the same thing) - and this is one of two weak lynchpins into the science fiction multiverse (as it is referenced in Angel and Star Trek:TNG) of shows I love. The connections between the sci-fi shows are mostly due to the fact that they are by the same creator and intentionally in the same universe (Buffy/Angel/Firefly, Doctor Who/Torchwood, Star Trek of all flavours), with additional connections because a Firefly class ship appeared for a few seconds (or less) in Battlestar Galactica (special effects joke - it was the same FX people), and a lot of connections which lynchpin from Red Dwarf, which is a sci-fi parody show, and thus references everything it can, and does it even have any continuity? My point is that I refuse to let Dr Who be sucked down into this messy, American dominated morass of a multiverse just because the Tardis was seen on Red Dwarf (which could have easily have been made by a really obsessive Doctor Who fan 3 million years from now). I have a Tardis in my kitchen (it's about 6 inches tall, and is a great coin bank), but I'm not expecting to meet the Doctor (besides, I'd rather not - people tend to die in his proximity). The only other connection between the sci-fi nexus (which do connect to each other through Red Dwarf) is the appearance of the fictional Morley Brand cigarettes in Buffy and in the X-files. (Yes, the X-files could be called science fiction, but I'm not that big a fan, so I don't care). I can imagine that Morley is now just an accepted tv/film industry fake-brand name. It would be like saying all shows must be on the same telephone exchange because the phone numbers begin "555". There are some real and intentional connections between X-files and its spinoff universe (Millennium, Lone Gunemen) and the Homocide world and Veronica Mars (characters, references within the shows). But all of the connections between the St Elsewhere/Homocide Universe and the Buffyverse or Star Trek universe (from which they move out into my sci-fi territory) are to companies which were fictional beyond St Elsewhere (in the case of the Pynchon reference, both earlier, and actually become real) - and not only exist independent of St Elsewhere, but could easily exist in parallel universes which split off down different pantlegs of the Trousers of (Fictional) Time well before St Elsewhere. The thing about the Doctor knowing Arthur Dent is, of course, completely true. /sci-fi obsessive pedant not off, I will not stop being this way!
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quick, someone find her medication.
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Also, I would like to point out that Farscape is not connected at all, which suggests that it was truely a unique and imaginative series which broke new ground in television, or that it's just too obscure for anyone to care.
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MonkeyFilter: it's about 6 inches tall, and is a great coin bank.
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I was right, I did have coffee.
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Assuming that in the episode where Buffy could have been in a mental ward, imagining this entire universe (I can't remember the episode name, but her parents were still together and she was in a sort of catatonic state), then Firefly and Angel would also be artificial universes. I never saw St. Elsewhere but I wondered if that could have been the connection too, having not had time to properly rtfa.
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(I don't want to eek this, it's so interesting! Do I have to?)
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a Firefly class ship appeared for a few seconds (or less) in Battlestar Galactica Wait, wait, back up there... you happen to know the season/episode? I'd love to look for that.
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I've never seen this St Elsewhere thing, It's on DVD!
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You have to. You know the rules.
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It's your site, you don't have to do anything you don't want to. Also, you could just consider this a good rerun - I missed it totally the first time. repeats are only a problem when they are the same day (or shortly after), or there are too many posts.
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The appearance of the Firefly class ship is in the miniseries - it's not in the flotilla. It's a really quick, almost blurry flash by. I never would have caught it myself, I heard about it later.
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tracicle - I forgot about that Buffy episode, but in the chart/expanation the two connections are the Yoyodyne thing (connecting Angel and Star Trek with John Larroquette, John Laroquette to Frasier, Frasier to Cheers and Cheers to St Elsewhere), and the Moyer brand cigarette thing (connecting Buffy and X-files, X-files had a character crossover with Homocide, and so on). I like to think that Buffy episode is true in both ways - Buffy in one universe/timeline is in a coma, and in another universe/time line is the Slayer (basically parallel universes). And that episode is the weakening of the barriers between the two worlds. Neither is less or more real than the other.
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If you don't eek it, Quiddy could launch a coup.
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Could? Will.
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DOWN WITH PRESIDENTE TRACICO! UP WITH GENERALE EL QUIDNUNCO! VIVA LA REVOLUCION!
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But Tracico didn't even RUN in Michigan... (and Generale El Quid would not be where he is if he were white.)
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> The appearance of the Firefly class ship is in the miniseries It's intriguing, but I'm not sure that's a Firefly class ship. There are similarities, but the rear doesn't seem to be eliptical enough,
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I'm not sure about the ship shape - it's such an unclear appearance - but it was supposedly the same effects company. So it probably was intentional - maybe they just got the shape wrong.