September 15, 2007

War songs. Folk songs brought us together in the 1960s in protest of the war in Viet Nam. "Big Muddy" seems especially relevant today. (via the Mofi thread about the Smothers Brothers.)

So, what would it take, today?

  • War, HUH, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing!
  • Gimme an F!
  • I wasn't even born yet!
  • That was really enjoyable. Interesting to learn that this was obviously a large influence on this Springsteen song I have always liked.
  • "I wasn't even born yet!" That's no excuse.
  • Masters of War? Masters of War. And I hope that you die And your death'll come soon I will follow your casket In the pale afternoon And I'll watch while you're lowered Down to your deathbed And I'll stand o'er your grave 'Til I'm sure that you're dead
  • So, what would it take, today? Good question, path. Those who were in their teens and twenties during the sixties and seventies and who gave impetus to the anti-war movement are now in their fifties and sixties. For the most part, the baby boomers we (in the affluent parts of the planet) have had it pretty easy. And as a generation, IMO, we have screwed up. We've become what we once abhorred, complacent consumers, easily terrified and easily led. For What It's worth via
  • What would it take today? A draft.
  • All we are saying Is give multilateral counter-insurgency operations in support of reconstruction operations in a country previously administered by a coalition authority installed persuant to UN Security Council Resolution 1551 based on the perceived yet, due to faulty intelligence possibly unduly influenced by political processes, incorrect assumption of a WMD threat, a chance
  • What would it take? Fewer video games, iPods, and cell phones. Less self-interest and materialism among the under-25 set. (I'm not picking on a particular age group, but that seems the age when you're independent and mobile enough to actively protest, but not so old that you have a family, a mortgage, and other priorities) In the 60's, young people were very socially and politically aware. Today, they don't seem to give a shit. about anything other than themselves.
  • Islander, rocket, I'm not sure which generation is the more selfish. I thought there was a chance of change in the late 60s-early 70s. Guess it was just hair, smoke, rock and roll and business as usual.
  • Well I was that age in the late 80's/early 90's. I guess we were pretty selfish too, but then again we weren't at war.
  • The trouble with young people today is that they are so damn shellfish. They just lie around in an exoskeletal torpor and don't care about anyone else. That's why old human generals and politicians are now committing endless war crimes, and those crabby young lobsters are just prawns in their game.
  • I might as well give up and become a hermit crab
  • You're right that kids today don't use their mussels, quid -- they think the world's their goddamn oyster -- but nobody's listening so you might as well clam up.
  • Yeah, there were no wars in the early nineties.
  • None that my country was a part of.
  • Che is rollicking in his grave.