I tend to agree with the idea that the bigger homophobe you are, the more conflicted you are about your own sexuality.
Also, foot tapping? (Did the CNN article mention that? I read the Reuters.) What's up with foot tapping in men's rooms? Is there some whole secret language (I hesitate to use the term "handshake," heh) in men's rooms?
So THAT'S what that dude was doing! It all makes sense now!
Is he an alcoholic yet?
Sometimes just the sheer idiocy of the situations makes me wonder how the reports could possibly be true. I mean, I try to imagine myself one of these politicians, and even if I am a closeted, self-loathing gay person underneath all the conservative trappings, in what situation would I EVER just go into an airport men's room looking for a quickie? KNOWING the scrutiny I'm under as an elected official and the further danger of exposure of my hypocrisy?
It just don't make no sense.
It just don't make no sense.
People will do crazy things when they are hard-up for some good nookie - politician or not.
I see two explanations:
1. He was blinded by horniness.
2. Ze conflict between ze id und der ego resulted in ze creation auf ein zituation where subsconsciously, he knew he would be caught, zus releasing ze underlying tension und leaving him free to act out his desires.
Apparently the Senator is claiming that "police misconstrued my actions."
Now I'd be interested to hear what the proper construance of the actions is meant to be.
Hey, that's MY Senator yer talkin' about.
The asshole.
Gentlemen, start your excuses!
Wait, I was mizcornstrewed. it was teh alcohol. And the black guyz scared me. And I'm having a nervuz breakdown.
NONE OF THIS IS MY FAULT.
Oh, and here's my card.
Is anybody else squicked out by the fact that he left without washing his hands?
No matter WHAT he was doing, he should have washed his hands.
Um, so he tapped his foot, touched the cop's foot, and waved his hand under the stall, and was arrested
before any lewd behavior took place? And then he plead guilty?
I can't imagine, barring a guilty plea, how the actions described above could in any way produce a conviction.
Me either. If I had a nickel for every time I've tapped my fot in a bathroom stall I'd be a rich woman. And I've dropped plenty of things on bathroom floors and had to feel around for them. Given the fact that - if you don't know this bizarre, elaborate code - these are fairly routinne body movements, I can't understand why he would plead guilty in the first place.
Now I'd be interested to hear what the proper construance of the actions is meant to be.
Hey, buddy, could you spare a square?
And I've dropped plenty of things on bathroom floors and had to feel around for them. Given the fact that - if you don't know this bizarre, elaborate code - these are fairly routinne body movements, I can't understand why he would plead guilty in the first place.
Well, just between us monkeys I'll let you in on the secret of men's restrooms: NEVER TOUCH, SAY, or LOOK AT ANYTHING UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. That the Senator pleaded guilty to these actions says . . well . . yeah.
Is he an alcoholic yet?
Also to come: A renewed relationship with Jesus.
This is fucking hilarious.
I guess teh gay must be contagious: all the Republicans seem to be going down with it.
Pete, is that more proof of Lara's boys/cooties theory?
Well, just between us monkeys I'll let you in on the secret of men's restrooms: NEVER TOUCH, SAY, or LOOK AT ANYTHING UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
Please let it be that this guy hasn't forever ruined the Foot Flush TM...
Gosh. I feel old. I remember when it was always the democrats that got caught for sexual peccadillos.
"...The most beautiful sound I've ever heard/Alito, Alito/Alito, I just met a judge named Alito/And suddenly the name will never be the same/Alito, Bush just picked a judge named Alito/Alito, say it proud, that Republican saying/Say it soft and there's Democrats praying/Alito, may the Senate confirm Alito."
The little bird that lives in my chest just died.
*wipes a tear for the sullied memory of Natalie Wood*
And I've dropped plenty of things on bathroom floors and had to feel around for them. Given the fact that - if you don't know this bizarre, elaborate code - these are fairly routinne body movements, I can't understand why he would plead guilty in the first place.
I am in total agreement here. The first time I encountered such a bizarre, elaborate code was when I was standing in a stall getting ready to urinate when a round hole in the side of the stall caught my eye. Naturally, I put my penis through this unusual hole in the stall wall. Who wouldn't? The result of my action shocked me. It took me about a minute and a half to realize what was going on. By then, it was too late.
Who!
You gotta give whomever is on the other side of the glory hole respect. I mean, that's person's a real giver.
Back in the day, (1982) Craig was the only one worried about CYA in a sex scandal.
Twenty-five years ago, Craig issued a preemptive statement denying any involvement with congressional page Leroy Williams, who alleged he had sex with three House members at age 17. Craig, then serving his first of five House terms, was the only member of Congress to issue such a statement. The preemptive move only seemed to fuel more rumors about Craig's sexual orientation.
In a May interview with the Statesman, Craig said he panicked. "I was scared, plain and simple scared," Craig told Popkey.[local reporter]
Craig's been under scrutiny for the last several months here in Idaho.
On today's news, Craig accused Idaho Statesman of conducting a witchhunt.
witchhunt bitchhunt
Fixed that for you, Larry.
I don't go around anywhere hitting on men, and by God, if I did, I wouldn't do it in Boise, Idaho! Jiminy!"
Jiminy????
*laffs at teh gay
On behalf of teh gheys, much like Roy Cohn, we don't want him. You breeders can keep him. We'll keep Merv.
You Tube video of 1982 preemptive denial
Until it mysteriously gets taken down, of course.
"Persons who are unmarried as I am, by choice or by circumstance, have always been the subject of innuendos, gossip and false accusations. I think this is despicable."
Yup, you singles out there...we're watching you.
Always watching.
we don't want him. You breeders can keep him.
Ohno!
I can see this developing into a shoving match.
No good can come of it.
*runs to hide
Sexuality is freedom.
Hiding and ostracizing what you do ....
Well... honestly... wtf?
Look, I'll just be waiting in this stall over here. If anyone wants to drop by, I'll be sure to give you a warm welcome...
CAN YOU PEOPLE JUST LET ME SHIT IN PEACE?!?
*taps right foot in Cappy's direction*
Senate GOP leaders called Tuesday for an Ethics Committee investigation of the Idaho Republican's June arrest"He's disappointed the American people," former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, for whose presidential campaign Craig was a Senate liaison . . . Romney, in his CNBC interview, apparently wasn't buying Craig's story.
"It reminds us that people who are elected to public office continue to disappoint," Romney said. "And they somehow think that if they vote the right way on issues of significance or they can speak a good game that we'll just forgive and forget."
Bitch!
For some odd reason, after the cockfighting and the lost nukes, this thread has really lifted my spirits. Ya gotta hand it to them Republicans. Also, meredithea hit the nail on the engorged and throbbing head.
My only real regret is that The Daily Show is in reruns. Somewhere, Jon must be just bursting with juicy jibes and japes.
"He's disappointed the American people," former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney
What a self-righteous, judgmental git!
Sen. John McCain of Arizona, another Republican candidate for president, called the case "disgraceful"
Here's another Republican asshole jumping on the righteous bandwagon.
"It reminds us that people who are elected to public office continue to disappoint,"
Good to know what we can expect from you in the future, Romney!
Yo Mitt--you have 'disappointed the American people' with your sanctimonious crap. I'm not disappointed with Craig at all--in fact, he's just another Republican pantload living right up to my expectations.
Also, what BlueHorse said.
"I am not a crook gay."
"Nor have I ever been gay" ?? What, nevahh?
Not a teeny, tiny bit? Maybe some "accidental" drunken groping in the frat house? Late night screenings of Giant?
It's ok -- you can tell us...
Maybe you had an oral fixation when you quite smoking, and turned to smoking pole instead?
Stepping downSen. Larry Craig will temporarily step down from his committee assignments, CNN has learned.
Also on Wednesday, three Republican lawmakers, including Sen. John McCain, called on Craig to resign.
With no majority, and fsck-all strength in the polls leading to Votetoberfest2008 the GOP acts quickly to make it all go away.
Fox News jumps on the story with the front-page headline: "Report: Hillary Clinton Big Money Donor Wanted for Grand Theft"
"Nor have I ever been gay" ?? What, nevahh?
Hardly evahh!
Heehee, I said "hard."
He's hardly evah, evah gaaaayyy!
Then give three cheers and one cheer more
For our water-closet-loving Senator.
Then give three cheers and one cheer more
Fooooor that closet case, our Sen-a-tor!
I understand the residents of Idaho are rather annoyed as up until now, they were mainly thought fondly of as purveyors of spuds and the location of Napoleon Dynamite.
Though I suppose for some pundits, the situation is "freakin' awesome."
/gives three cheers and one cheer more for PA's song
"So, who are you gonna blow in the bathroom today, Napoleon?"
"Whoever I want to, gosh!"
sorry...
Meh, he's a big Ida-ho.
Have you ever had a go
On a chap from Idaho?
They like to do it in the stall
But afterwards deny it all.
This senator may lose the race
For asking lawman 'tits or face?'
The lesson learned here, in the main,
Is save your wanking for the plane.
mmmm spuds.
Booooooo.
I really don't care if my congressmen screw shellfish, as long as it's of age and they do it in private (have some dignity, fer crap sake!)
It's his utter and complete hypocrisy that makes me sick.
Now all the 'rightous' Republicans are drawing their skirts away and passing on the other side. This, too, is a little sick making. Too bad they don't have the balls to talk about the good legislation he's worked for. Even the Idaho reporter who was investigating him mentioned that he was a vital force, even if he didn't agree with him always. Which is not to say I don't want him out for being a lying asshole with an attitude of privilege and no common sense about screwing in a public toilet, but let him go with as much grace as possible on both sides in the circumstances.
Guess you know who your friends are now, Craig.
Yep, you can commit any offense you like and it's OK, as long as it doesn't involve the naughty bits.
You say naughty bits, I say tasty bits.
Yes, but exactly WHICH bits are the naughty bits?
Seems like now-a-days, ANY bit can be used for something hinky, kinky, or rude!
and you're just disgusting, HW
This is yet another reason that I always carry with me a small supply of "RalphTheDog - Member, U.S. Senate" business cards.
When I feel frisky, the word "member" is in italics.
It's twelve inches long, but he doesn't use it, as a rule.
Your foot came toward mine, mine came toward yours, was that natural?
Don't be a heel, Larry, I'm sure it was more like love at first sight. You wanted him to sock it to you, that was the sole thing on your mind. If you had toed the line, you wouldn't be in this sticky mess. Be glad he removed you to a private area and didn't have you lace your fingers together with hands behind your back in public.
OK, that's entirely enough.
Yeah, that was pretty callous.
Headline Idaho Statesman, 09/05/07
CRAIG LEAVES DOOR OPEN TO REMAIN IN SENATE
On Saturday he said his ‘intent' was to resign Sept. 30.
Idaho Sen. Larry Craig arrives at the Boise Train Depot in Boise on Saturday morning where he announced that he plans to resign his Senate seat.
Here's what Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, said in a voice-mail message he mistakenly left at an incorrect phone number Saturday morning:
"Yes, Billy, this is Larry Craig calling. You can reach me on my cell. Arlen Specter is now willing to come out in my defense, arguing that it appears by all that he knows that I have been railroaded and all that. Having all of that, we have reshaped my statement a little bit to say it is my intent to resign on Sept. 30. I think it is important for you to make as bold a statement as you are comfortable with this afternoon, and I would hope you could make it in front of the cameras. I think it would help drive the story that I'm willing to fight, that I've got quality people out there fighting in my defense, and that this thing could take a new turn or a new shape; it has that potential. Anyway, give me a buzz or give Mike a buzz on that. We're headed to my press conference now. Thank you. Bye."
U.S. Sen. Larry Craig said Tuesday that he might reconsider his decision to resign if he clears his name in his arrest for disorderly conduct in a restroom sex scandal.
That's why Craig chose his words carefully during his resignation speech Saturday in Boise, according to a voice mail message he mistakenly left on a stranger's phone. In the message obtained by the Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call, Craig tells a man named "Billy" that his choice of language is deliberate because it leaves the door open for him to stay in office.
Craig made the call just minutes before his speech.
"We have reshaped my statement a little bit to say it is my intent to resign on Sept. 30," Craig said. "I think it is important for you to make as bold a statement as you are comfortable with this afternoon, and I would hope you could make it in front of the cameras. I think it would help drive the story that I'm willing to fight, that I've got quality people out there fighting in my defense, and that this thing could take a new turn or a new shape; it has that potential."
He said Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., had encouraged him to fight.
Read the rest here.
Might I say, Larry, you are such a LYIN' SACK O'SHIT!!!?!?
This guy needs a keeper. Not only does he "accidently" come onto a police officer, he mistakenly admits to guilt for a crime he didn't commit, and now he can't dial a phone fer shit.
Riiiiiiiight.
Comments from a friend of mine.
Oh, the inconsistencies! He signed a legally binding document of public record and now says the statements are untrue. He says he pleaded guilty in August without having consulted a lawyer yet on June 22 told police he had one. He claims he made the guilty plea under duress, yet the arrest was on June 11 and the statement was in August, allowing time for careful deliberation.
Ignorant of the law, or just plain ignorant?
About the time I think this has gone on long enough, I'm gobsmacked with another example of this guy's idiocy. Get him outta' there, already!
In a CNN interview Sunday, one of Craig's Senate colleagues compared the guilty plea to a motorist paying an undeserved parking ticket.
Why, yes! Of course!
Earlier Monday, Craig's attorney, Billy Martin, told CNN that the senator "had just gone under a tremendous interview with the Idaho Statesman where he was under investigation for being gay. They were walking around Washington and other cities with photographs at gay bars that were embarrassing him."
I call bullshit.
Why would you be under such MAJOR stress if you KNOW you're "right with God" and faithful to your wife? Even if such allegations are unpleasant, I would think that such an event would be the PERFECT time to stress your innocence and proclaim loudly to the world that this is the kind of thing that could give an innocent and angelic Senator an undeserved bad rap.
Bad policeman, trying to entrap a righteous and upright family man!
Craig was not "thinking clearly,
the lawmaker's plea "was not knowing and intelligent
pleading guilty was "an easy way out"
"He thought that this matter would not be publicly disclosed, and that was very foolish,
Specter said Minnesota law allows a defendant to withdraw a guilty plea "if there is manifest injustice, and that is defined that a plea can be withdrawn if it was not intelligently made," Specter said. "And what Sen. Craig did was by no means intelligent."
Sooooo...he's going on the stupidity defense?
And WE elected this idjut!
*shakes head
At the time of this incident, I complained to the police that they were misconstruing my actions," he said in a written statement. "I was not involved in any inappropriate conduct. I should have had the advice of counsel in resolving this matter. In hindsight, I should not have pled guilty. I was trying to handle this matter myself quickly and expeditiously."
Yup, I say the man's an idjut. Every high school drop-out knows how to yell for their "one phone call." This man has money out the wazoo, and he's too stupid and too cheap to call a lawyer? I'd bet money he has one on retainer that could have advised him--hey bozo, call a lawyer!
I don't care who he sleeps with. I don't care what he screws. Even if he's innocent, he's still a hypocrite and a liar. Either he's stupid, or he's a megalomaniac that thinks this country will buy any crap he spews, and that we owe him a job he doesn't do half as well as he thinks he does. Pulling out the get-out-of-jail-free Senator card at the time of his arrest is what pissed me off most.
Mr. Craig:
What goes around, comes around, you self-righteous arsehole.
His 'punishment' should be to be bummed into madness.
trying to handle this matter myself quickly and expeditiously
How's that working out, btw?
I notice the papers are starting to repeat stuff. His lawyer probably smacked him and told him to shut his stupid yap.
He's going to use his campaign funds for his defense.
What a crock of shite!
If this had happened to Joe Average, there's no way in HELL it would have gone to law again. Not to mention, Joe doesn't have donations in a war chest to subsidize his backpedaling. I'm just wondering how many good folk are just fine with Craig using their donations for his defense, and how many are disgusted with him and want their nickel back?
I think all of his campaign gains were exchanged for in bathroom transactions, so I'm sure those folks want their money back - but they're all upstanding, god-fearing family-men who want nada to do with ol' Two-face McWinkyhands.
He's going to use his campaign funds for his defense.
I just gets awesomer and awesomer. I am so loving the self-doubt that's plaguing the political analysts at Fox News right now.
Ha - I had you there for a second though, about the Faux News thing.
If this had happened to Joe Average, [or a Democrat] there's no way in HELL it would have gone to law again.
Thanks for fixing that, TUM.
As a friend of mine said:
There is a tradition in this great country of naming public works for notable politicians. To honor Larry Craig and his 27 years of dedicated service to Idaho, I propose that we dedicate the Larry Craig Men's Restroom at the Boise Airport.
God, jiminy, I think that's a good idea!!
It's a tourist stop!
Craig is still adamant that he is innocence. He's taken a definite stance. Wide, but definite.
Craig appears at CaptiolCraig was later asked by reporters if his presence in the Capitol today means he will not resign
The Indiana [sic] Republican responded, " no not at all — I'm here to work with my staff and my office and to wrok with my legal team."
Asked if he is confident about his court case, he said, "I have no opinion. I'd like to be."
Ummm. . innocent?
ACLU is going to get involved with this.
Crap. That's all this farce needs.
ACLU is going to get involved with this.
Ah, yes, the Airport Crapper Libertines' Union. Fine, upstanding gentlemen.
Strictly speaking, the ACLU is right, he should be able to proposition men and suck as much cock as he wants in the stinky toilet stall. Who cares? It's his body, his life.
It's the hypocrisy of being an anti-gay Republican politician that is the problem.
Ahhh, no. actually, my friends, the issue may be one of entrapment. The ACLU's position is that he wasn't actually caught having sex. Apparently it's not illegal to proposition anyone, it's just illegal to have sex in a public place. Additionally, the manner in which the arrest was made places the charges in doubt.
None of which makes a crap's worth of difference AFAK. I don't care if he's gay. I don't care who he porks or where he porks it. What I care about is that he's lied. He pulled the Big Man, do-you-know-who-I-am above the law card, and he's stupid.
Anybody that much of an idiot and an embarrassment to the state needs to be outta there.
Wow, what a bargain...err, wait. Is this the piece that was on the floor?
I'll pass.
He needs a nickname.
It's not the lying so much that bothers me - heck, I've never known anybody who's never lied. It's the hypocrisy that gets my goat.
All I can think of is Leisure-Suit Larry, but Cubical Craig works for me.
Senator Stall-tapper?
Craig lawyer: He may stay in the Senate no matter what
Remember how Idaho Sen. Larry Craig was going to resign from the Senate on Sept. 30? Then remember how he was maybe not going to resign if -- and only if -- he could get his guilty plea withdrawn by Sept. 30? And then remember how Craig put off his plan to resign because the judge hearing his case hasn't ruled yet?
Well, here's the latest from Craig's attorney. Appearing on "Hardball" Thursday night, lawyer Stanley Brand said that it's "conceivable" that Craig will remain in office through the end of his term, "especially if he gets some type of relief in Minnesota." "But," Brand added quickly, "I don't think it depends on that."
Wow.
I wonder what type of relief he's lookin' for, eh?
Shame he has to go all the way to Minnesota to get some relief.
Bet someone in Washington could give him a helping hand with that (under the stall door.)
Wonder if his stance is going to be as wide in his voting?
> «It is unfortunate to look at having to spend $1 million on something that wouldn't be necessary if people simply behaved themselves,»
Or if we simply let people get on with getting it on.
I have no objection to anyone gettin' it on.
But dammit, can't they do it behind closed doors??
Pull the drapes, shut the doors, screw any consenting adult whatever you like, but
I DON'T WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT!!
And if you're my congressman, don't be such a hypocritical liar and 'family man' while you're doin' some dood in a terlet.
Thanks for that last one, pete.
It's good to know that Idaho Gov. Butch Otter "just wants to be ready."
Excellent analysis of Porter's decision to toss Craig's appeal:
Legal experts say judge's ruling on Craig's case is on ‘very solid ground'
Judges ruling "continues to hold Senator Craig accountable for his conduct...
Craig decision to stay in Senate is more bad news for Republicans"Are they going to begin to take up misdemeanor cases as a matter of course?" Brand said ... "That's going to put a lot of other people in serious jeopardy down the road."
Craig's lawyer Stanley Brand said the Senate traditionally has shied away from disciplining members for misdemeanors unrelated to their duties and might be unwise to cross that line now.
As it damn well should put 'em in jeopardy!! Time we got serious with the jackasses representing us.
Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., who had encouraged Craig to try to overturn his plea, told reporters that his colleague had the right to stay in office. "Disorderly conduct is not moral turpitude," Specter said, "and is not a basis for leaving the Senate."
With anybody else, we'd call it "moral turpitude." Why not Craig?
Popkey, the man who "hounded" Craig and "forced" him to plead guilty out of fear has this to say about Craig's grandstanding:
Is worst over for Craig? Maybe, if ethics hearings aren't public
His take:
Craig apparently doesn't see an ethics probe as an unpleasant source of more embarrassment, including public hearings as threatened by GOP leaders.
Craig may know something we don't. The committee is divided evenly — three Republicans and three Democrats. They may not have the stomach for public hearings when they have more pressing business.
There's also a presidential election to distract from Craig's problems.
I'm banking on Craig slithering through this on a mixture of slime and cum.
Those crazy Republicans LOVE to take a wide stance in defining family values and sexual morality.
The list goes on and on and on....
OK, so it's not the least biased website you've ever looked at, but it's easy to look up the individual cases and ascertain their validity.
Larry is the least of it.
Bias, schmias. Its still hypocrisy of the highest order.
So the Ethics Committee isn't deadyet.But why do they hate teh gay so bad?
On the one hand, it's funny seeing Craig get his d@#k wacked, on the other, it's hilarious watching the guys get up on their moral high horse.
Makes me want to run up behind them and yell, "Boo! Gay is catching. And you're NEXT!"
witchhuntbitchhunt Fixed that for you, Larry. I don't go around anywhere hitting on men, and by God, if I did, I wouldn't do it in Boise, Idaho! Jiminy!" Jiminy???? *laffs at teh gaya crookgay." "Nor have I ever been gay" ?? What, nevahh?littlesick making. Too bad they don't have the balls to talk about the good legislation he's worked for. Even the Idaho reporter who was investigating him mentioned that he was a vital force, even if he didn't agree with him always. Which is not to say I don't want him out for being a lying asshole with an attitude of privilege and no common sense about screwing in a public toilet, but let him go with as much grace as possible on both sides in the circumstances. Guess you know who your friends are now, Craig.