December 08, 2006

Camille advises Britney Camille Paglia (who like Hitchens, is a bit past the peak of her career), weighs in on Britney Spears and how all of her recent twat flashing for the camera is "degrading the entire pro-sex wing of feminism". In Us magazine.

My favorite quote from the interview: "The studio system...guided and shaped the careers of the young women who it signed up. It maximized their sexual allure by dealing it out in small doses and making sure you don’t have -- what has become here -- a situation of anarchy.” Small doses, girls!

  • Somehow the lead-in "more inside" has never seemed quite so appropriate...
  • a bit past the peak of her career Actually, that might sum it up right there.
  • Camille’s just getting old. “The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.”- Attr to Socrates “I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words.” - Hesiod, 8th century BC “The world is passing through troublous times. The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint. They talk as if they knew everything, and what passes for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for the girls, they are forward, immodest and unladylike in speech, behavior and dress." - Peter the Hermit, 1274 A.D. Etc.
  • Peter the Hermit?
  • is britney spears name really in the same sentence as the word 'feminism'??? hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Whoawhoawhoa -- Britney's 'twat-flashing'? Oh, right. This isn't 2002. I don't care, then. Post-Federline -- eeuw.
  • Peter the Hermit Had no heater permit They came for his heater And made him return it
  • Here 'ya go, Pete. Actually, there's plenty here for everybody. "We must take orders as good passive accepting schlubs."
  • > Actually, there's plenty here for everybody. Why do so many of the wacky sites use such very long pages? Are hyperlinks part of a one-world illuminati government plot?
  • I'm sorry she doesn't address the current pressing quandry of sexual politics: Do Girls Fart? (video)
  • How can you call it a wacky site when its home site has such value? "This turnkey business is for sale. The package price is $370,000,000. Sale includes one month's guidance from the creator."
  • Whether Britney Spears is producing good music or dressing like a harlot or flashing her twat makes absolutely no difference to me. I would still like to provide moisturizer for her face with my ball sweat.
  • Ah, Camille, Camille... you used to be at least thought-provoking (even if most of those thoughts were "What the hell?"). Now you're just kinda crochety.
  • I would still like to provide moisturizer for her face with my ball sweat. I'm not sure what it means but by Dawkins I like it.
  • Try harder, you haven't farked it up enough in this thread yet.
  • This thread was farkaceous ab initio.
  • Peter the Hermit is a card. He is the senile racist asshole grandfather I never had.
  • These things can be joked about without turning into boyzone, believe it or not, fish tick.
  • Actually I think I did it all by my linksome, sorry. bernockle's crass chauvinistic disgustery was just icing. *takes bernockle's last beer, loses the remote*
  • I feel that if one introduces the subject of a talentless twit's twat as a subject for discussion, one should not be surprised if the ensuing discussion invokes private parts and lacks gentility and/or erudition.
  • No, this thread was not "farkaceous ab initio". Certain people are consciously reducing the quality by posting rubbish. You may not regard Britney Spears highly (you iconoclast you), but that does not make your sexual fantasies involving her germane to the discussion.
  • I am surprised she was elected one of the top 100 intellectuals of 2005. Of course Fukuyama is on that list as well. Most "intellectuals" that make these lists usually just produce easily digestible tripe for the upper middle class anyway.
  • *sets up lawn chair and cooler, awaits the rest of the cat fight*
  • Yeah petebest, Peter the Hermit. Y’know priest of Amiens? Leading figure during the First Crusade? Tortured by Turks? Gathered people together and promised them divine protection, but they were all slaughtered? Played live for a while then met future producer Mickie Most and released "I'm Into Something Good?" Released "Mrs. Brown, You've Got a Lovely Daughter" (y’know that shit goes right to the radio), left the band in 1971 and went on to star in ABC's “The Canterville Ghost” ... or am I mixing up my hermits there?
  • Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude, its Friday, the kid is at the baby sitter's, I am getting wasted tonight. Everyone stop being so damn serious. *removes pants*
  • Oh god, what is that smell?
  • I'll tell ya what it ain't, that ain't Hindu! Woooohoooo, Yeah! Ya know what I'm talking about!
  • Most "intellectuals" that make these lists usually just produce easily digestible tripe for the upper middle class anyway. That sounds about right, except for most of it. I know lets pull facts out of the air. If you say it enough times and with authority it may just be true.
  • The 2005 Global Intellectuals Poll is a list of the 100 most important living public intellectuals in the world which has been compiled in November 2005 by Prospect Magazine (UK), on the basis of a reader's ballot comprising more than 20,000 votes. Have you seen that list? Fukuyama, Wolfowitz, Baudrillard, Zizek, most of these people are pop intellectuals or not intellectuals but social activists. Social activism is all well and good but doen't get you instant intellectual status. Most of these people were chosen for their ability to produce a book that any person with a degree in anything can digest. That is why Diamond is on the list. His book was good but hardly earns him the right to be considered in the canon of intellectuals. Baudrillard is another example of pop critical theory. Maybe my standards are higher than yours. I also hate when people throw the term genius around. Now your ruining my pre-drinking binge high.
  • Well glamajamma, Iv'e not seen the list, I don't subscribe to Prospect. Other than Zizek I've read them all. Ok not everything they may have published.. well alright other than Zizek, I've read a few bits and bobs and a have a few books from some of the others. I detest that your pre-drinking high is getting ruined, so will drink on your behalf. This digestible 'tripe' is not written for the upper middle class, it's written for the rest of us. The status as intellectuals of the people on the Prospect list is neither this nor that. glamajamma your argument is with the meaningless of gifting intellectual status to hacks. Exemplified by the Prospect list. My argument is with your assertion that 'this tripe' is for the upper-middle class. On the other hand I may just be upper-middle class without knowing it.
  • Hit me baby one more time... I was born to make you happy... I'm with Medusa. hahahahhhhhahaahhahahahhahahaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe I typed those lyrics. Ew.
  • So who wrote the book? I'm guessing Camille not Britney. I'm getting seriously into the idea of ball sweat as a moisturizer, for a start the stuff smells like paradise, but most importantly scrotums look fantastic! Have a sniff.. first one is free...
  • W00t, medusa and sly_polyglot found some of the silliness that caused me to post this in the first place.
  • What is wrong with a situation of anarchy?
  • sooooooo hungover
  • hey glama, me too :D
  • And Britney makes three!
  • Makes three what? /in touch with the feminine side
  • 'When Paris tore into Britney -- who, whatever inane decisions she has made, or been pushed into, during her decade in our pop culture consciousness, has retained an aura of pink-cheeked, creamy-bellied vulnerability -- she crossed a line. Spears fans, more frantic about the deleterious effects of Hilton than of the ghoulish Kevin Federline, swamped Spears' MySpace page with pleas, including one begging the singer to "please get away from the Parasite." On "The View," Rosie O'Donnell called Hilton an "idiot" and offered to adopt Spears, saying, "We don't want Britney hanging out with Paris."'(Salon, reg. req.) It would seem that Camille is in good company in wanting to counsel, or otherwise "save", the good Ms. Spears.
  • Yowza! (pic may be NSFW, depending) /prints
  • I saw Goldwyn's film Pretty Things last year on CBC Newsworld. Fascinating stuff. And so much fun to have these old burlesque queens telling these old stories to the new kid...
  • As for the awards themselves? Well, among them, Fergie was named Female Artist of the Year; Fall Out Boy was Best Group; Best New Artist went to Gym Class Heroes; Timberlake won Quadruple Threat of the Year and Male Artist of the Year; Rihanna won Video of the Year and Monster Single of the Year for her ubiquitous hit "Umbrella"; and Beyonce and Shakira won Most Earth Shattering Collaboration for "Beautiful Liar." It's not the dance numbers, Petey. It's the music that sucks. The winners list is just across the board lameitude.