October 06, 2006

• How low can he go?!?
• I guess until you hit the ninth circle.
• I thought limbo was already abolished. Wasn't this in the news like several months ago or something? I sure picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue
• If Mormons can perform post-mortem baptisms, why can't the Catholics do the same? It's all just make-believe anyway.
• I thought that at first, too, Petrus, but I think what we're remembering is that International Theological Commission thingamajigger.
• Has he resolved the how many angels can dance on the head of a pin hypothesis yet? Or can God make a burrito so hot he himself cannot eat it?
• Can he do that? Surely once another Pope has made even the slightest reference to Limbo, it can't be abolished or changed; papal infallability and all that? Eh wot?
• The Pope, himself, has been quoted in the past as saying that he would let the idea of limbo "drop, since it has always been only a theological hypothesis". And the world wonders whether he will take this insight to its logical conclusion
• The Pope, himself, has been quoted in the past as saying that he would let the idea of limbo "drop, since it has always been only a theological hypothesis". And the world wonders whether he will take this insight to its logical conclusion
• Tsk! Why must you mock me, my Lord?
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• The logical conclusion: that original sin is just a theological hypothesis to?
• Will a bimbo Go to Limbo? Ask the Pope; He'll say, "Nope."
• Nope from a Pope?
• “Or can God make a burrito so hot he himself cannot eat it?” - posted by Mord Don’t be ridiculous. God would have his chef fix him the burrito. You think God doesn’t have a personal staff? What do you think the VP God does? The Pope is just the PR department. Limbo has always been an expendable asset of GodCo. If you have a real problem with it, I’d talk to accounting. The orginal problem was with the CEO spliting the company and taking a good chunk of the talent with him. Since then everyone’s been second guessing the owner and trying to run things past operations. Have your people call God’s people* and we’ll set up a lunch. *not to be confused with the Jews who got in before the stock split.
• I think the Capt. should be given the "Best Post Title Award" for the month of October. "Papa Ratzi". Genius.
• He's a lawyer y'know. Him good . . word . . guy.
• It's not mine. Nor is "The German Shepherd".
• Papal infallibility is, IIRC, not something that was always around, I think it was introduced sometime prior to the 1960s; I don't think it is a tradtional stance of the Papacy. I could be wrong.
• That's a bit decActually, the new Catholic view without limbo would allow unbaptized babies to go to heaven - part of this new belief is to make Catholicism able to compete better with Islam in Africa.
• So it's all about which franchise fills up their own version of heaven first?
• Strikes me as interesting that one basis for rethinking Limbo is that church members tend to reject the concept. Somehow, I've never seen the Catholic church as allowing voting on dogma. Do you suppose that contraception could be up for election at some point?
• In a world of religions apparently striving to best the others in proffering concepts of utter nonsense, the election of and belief in a Pope is hard to beat. That educated people follow this nonsense is even more difficult to fathom.
• Because the 1870 definition is not seen by Catholics as a creation of the Church, but as the dogmatic revelation of a Truth about the Papal Magisterium, Papal teachings made prior to the 1870 proclamation can, if they meet the criteria set out in the dogmatic definition, be considered infallible. Ineffabilis Deus is an example of this.
• Papal infallibity has been around since 1870, and is limited to matters of faith and morals defined ex cathedra. If memory serves, it's only been used a handful of times since then.
• oops
• I'm largely concerned about the effect this will have on understanding of Jimmy Cliff's greatest hits amongst future generations.
• Strikes me as interesting that one basis for rethinking Limbo is that church members tend to reject the concept. Somehow, I've never seen the Catholic church as allowing voting on dogma. Yes it is, and it's part of the basis of papal infallibilty, which sort of says the pope's infallible when he says something the faithful already knew was true. Do you suppose that contraception could be up for election at some point? Most of the church's teaching on contraception is from the Encyclical Humanae Vitae. The church views encyclicals as fallible. John Rock, a principle in the development of the pill, was a practicing Catholic and designed the pill to mimic the rythmn method.
• One in the eye for that bastard Dante, anyway.
• Yeah, fuck him & his expositional tactics!
• .. without limbo would allow unbaptized babies to go to heaven... What about all those poor babes that had to hang around in limbo till this Dope called the Pope made his decision? Is that fair?
• Clearly not - but the babies were probably fairly happy in limbo (a fairly nice place, apparently, compared to the world we live in). It's the virtuous pagans who really got it in the neck. I mean, look at Socrates - used to wander round talking about God and the importance of virtue, speculated that there must be something good waiting for virtuous people after death, said he'd spent his life looking for the man who could explain it all more clearly, but realised now he'd never meet him - you would have thought Jesus could have stretched a point for him?
• C'mon, how enlightened could a guy who wore crates for socks have been?
• Ratzinger hasn't yet made an official pronouncement- so until he does, is Limbo itself in limbo?
• One in the eye for that bastard Dante, anyway. posted by Plegmund at 08:26AM UTC on October 07, 2006 Yeah, fuck him & his expositional tactics! posted by Chyren at 08:59AM UTC on October 07, 2006 Exactly why I love this place.
• Arbitrary is as arbitrary does. Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too? --Douglas Adams
• As a Virtuous Heathen, I feel deeply concerned about this. I guess I'll have to turn vicious now.
• So... the best thing you can do for your kids is to kill them young to ensure that they get to heaven. I mean, finite mortality vs. eternal bliss... easy decision! uh oh, logic is catching up with them...
• >>So... the best thing you can do for your kids is to kill them young to ensure that they get to heaven. Abortion...doing God's work!
• Does the abandonment of limbo mean that baptism is now an irrelevance? After all its the passport into heaven-so if you can get in now without being baptised then why bother...I think the string vest of Catholicism is beginning to unravel.
• All those abortions are occurring precisely in accord with God's plan for every individual. You don't want to interfere with God's plan, do you? Of course that would be part of God's plan too. But then... oh fiddlesticks.
• Before I formed Hitler in the womb, I knew him. -Jeremiah 1:5
• *cue tasteless dead baby jokes*
• How come none of you guys are official cardinals or bishops or whatnot? I got the high score on "Galaga" once. I guess that puts me in charge until someone more qualified shows up.
• Woot! Go petebest! Can we have your blessing?
• A man goes into a stall in a public bathroom, and sees graffiti on the bottom of the cubicle door – ‘beware of limbo dancers’. He then looks up and written along the top of the door – ‘beware of Irish limbo dancers’** *cue bad limbo jokes **errr? Will somebody explain the second part to me??
• What gets louder as it gets smaller? A baby in a trash compactor. What's worse than finding 7 dead babies in 1 trash can? Finding 1 dead baby in 7 trash cans. Ba doom shing!
• For future use in the updated FAQ, this ↑ is the URL that should be referenced when answering the question "Do threads ever totally unravel?"
• "Will somebody explain the second part to me??" Traditionally, Irish jokes have the Irish doing everything wrong. For example: did you hear about the Irishman who broke both his legs raking leaves? He fell out of the tree. An Irishman walks into a pub with a dogturd in his hand, and exclaims "would you look at what I nearly stepped in outside!" So, the Irish limbo dancer doesn't go under the door, he goes over it. (My favorite Paddy joke is: What is the Irish National flag? Snotrag tied to a pickaxe handle).
• The Irish are to the antipodes what the Polish are to Americans.
• I have a friend who is Polish, and she and I love to make jokes about it. What is your pole position? "She's sitting to my left. OW! Don't pinch!" Good times.
• Sure and I do, Girder wrote Faust and Joist wrote Ulysses.
• TUM's Real-Life Tips: If you ever get the word "POLISH" in a game of charades, it's wiser to assume it refers to the furniture cleaner and not the ethnicity.
• *coffee snort*
• Discordian Society Acquires Limbo