March 03, 2004

For them, 'gays in the military' is a necessity: The Semen Warriors Of New Guinea. Inspired by a recent comment by flashboy. Oh, and here is the corresponding MeFi thread.
  • Well, I know one place I'm not taking the family on vacation.
  • I'm sorry I ever complained about having to eat spinach.
  • Sounds exactly like Boy Scouts to me.
  • So, if getting sodomized makes you a heterosexual masculine man, what if you want to be an effeminate gay man? Does that mean you have to sleep with one woman?
  • Semen warriors don't get sodomized, f8xmulder. They just fellate a lot of schlong.
  • Hey, this link is complete bullshit. An old friend of mine is an anthropologist who spent time with these people years ago, and to categorise this as 'bizarre homosexual' anything is completely wrong. As far as I understood, they do *not* engage in anal sex at all, and the practice ceases when the male becomes a warrior and starts heterosexual relations with a woman of the tribe. Friggin' total bullshit. It's just a very, very different belief system associated with their idea of spiritual energy, which they believe is transmitted thru cum. Once the warriors achieve adulthood, the oral sex ceases. There is no concept of 'gayness' in their society at all. Typical western twisted bullshit, probably influenced by some sort of religious crap. GRRRR.
  • i ate worm sperm while vacationing in the south pacific. tastes like scrambled eggs. quite yummy.
  • Hehe, don't get mad Nostrildamus. Same points raised at MeFi, that's why I added the link. I just wanted to make fun of flashboy small-letters comment.
  • OK duder, no offense meant, I was just surprised to see such view in this link. I thought that had been debunked long ago. Kinda makes it seem that these young guys are 'forced' to be gay, where that is not the case. The whole concept of homosexuality is a modern one. Ancient societies and isolated tribes such as this don't recognise the concept like we do, so I understand. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, this is just what I gather.
  • Regardless of how we feel about such practices, I'm sure we can all agree on one thing: DON'T MESS WITH THE SEMEN WARRIORS.
  • MonkeyFilter: "I felt afraid... the penises were enormous" Zemat, I told you not to get me started... One thing the article doesn't mention (in addition to the fact that some tribes 'semenize' the lads simply by rubbing it onto their skin) is that tribes who adhere to one tradition - anal sex, say - think that the way other tribes do it is just really, really sick. On preview: clam out, Nostrildamus, clam out :-) Yes, it's written using Western constructs as a reference point, but it's not bullshit. True, there's no concept of 'gayness' in Papua New Guinea - but that's kinda what the article's about. And yes, anal sex happens. There's over 300 different tribes in New Guinea, and many more across Melanesia as a whole, and as the article said, their practises differ. On second preview: yes, what you said. What I said. We all agree. Excellent. Phew. Dunno about how one goes about becoming an effeminate gay man in Papua New Guinea, but I am reminded of the Native American tradition of the berdache - young boys being given, at a certain age, a choice between a weapon to wield or a basket to weave. The berdache were seen as a completely seperate gender, a kind of go-between for the other two sexes, and were highly valued for their skills (in a kind of proto-Queer Eye way). Not saying this was a better or worse social attitude than our modern one - but it's an interesting thing to bear in mind when discussing what "traditional American values" are... :-)
  • I'm suddenly reminded of Tobias Schneebaum. "Keep the River on your Right" Anyone see the documentary about this old dude a couple years back? One very brave gay man. More balls than any straight guy I've met, walking into the jungle of Peru in the 50s, or something, without food, looking for a tribe of headhunters!! Ended up one of the tribe. Incredible story. Well worth checking out. Yes, he shagged them.
  • Peeeenis You know you are a Peeeenis Can you put your hand on your crotch, oh no! Peeeenis!
  • I am really hating you right about now, nosehair. (I said Peeeenis! Nothing but a Peeeeenis!)
  • Argh, you both suck! *repeatedly bangs head on desk*
  • We both "suck"???? Repeatedly "bangs"??? Uhhhhhh uhhhh uhhh uhhh what colour are your panties uhhhh
  • I'm now imagining a small, smarter-than-average boy (like a Melanesian Woody Allen) being offered a fat Melanesian cock to suck on and being told "don't you want to grow up to be big and strong" (in Melanesian, of course) and maybe he decides he doesn't want to be big and strong after all. I am drunk.
  • This is one of those parties you come to late and leave early. /feels for keys...
  • I'm now imagining a Melanesian Woody Allen as well. Turns out that was the most memorable image in a sentence with the words "a fat Melanesian cock to suck on"; this is unexpected. *adopts woody allen voice, waves arms nebbishly* "No, no, really, it's fine... I ate before I left the house, you know... I already have plenty of semen, really - it's, it's, it's, I'd say it was coming out of my ears but I worry that'd give you ideas... Look, I've got to go, they, they're slaughtering a chicken for me, I think, and I'd hate to disappoint them. But this has been great, really great, we should do it again... next time dinner's on me, okay?..."
  • flashboy: BWAAAAA HA HA!!! hee hee.
  • flashboy: it's even better when you start doing a live woody allen impression at work reading what you just wrote. no one even blinks...
  • Song of the Fairy The fairy fixes his hair in his silk dressing gown. The neighbors smile at back windows. The fairy arranges the curls on his head. In patios shriek parrots, jets of water, and planets. The fairy prettiwes himself with some shameless jasmine. The afternoon turns peculiar with combs and coiling vines. Scandal was shuddering, streaked like a zebra. The fairies of the south sing on roof terraces. -- Garcia Lorca
  • I totally missed this thread the first time around. *whew* Aaaiigh! dammit!
  • Who do they think they are, Floridians?
  • Oh ouch, foop!