July 02, 2006
Piscean Paraballein ..
The true Origin of Christian "FISH" Symbol Might Outrage ..."
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Always thought there was something fishy about that! /Hey somebody had to do it!
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I am the Lord thy Cod?
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I think you can dig through ancient descriptions of any word and find something that is an antagonistic description. No worries here.
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Somewhere, Philip K. Dick is laughing maniacally.
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And the big fish eat the little fish, just as the new religions incorporate the older... or something like that. Me, I'm a godless pagan, and I lubs my fish fried.
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I used to love fish but those little teeth hurt too much.
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But contemporary Jesus worshippers might be surprised, even outraged, to learn that one of their preeminent religious symbols antedated the Christian religion, and has its roots in pagan fertility awareness and sexuality. Christianity is the Melting Pot of pagan religions. Anyone who's done their homework would know that. "It's okay to eat fish cuz they don't have any feelings. -Kurt Cobain
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To be fair, there are a few stories involving fish in the Bible. Go, be fishers of men, and all that. Just because something happens to reside as an archetype in the vast recesses of historical and cultural evolution doesn't mean it can't be co-opted by one religion or another.
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I'm a Pisces, and this thread is really making me look forward to the sushi I'm going to have for dinner :D
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There is a balm in Gill-ead.
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There's a bomb WHERE?
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The symbol of the Fish.
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Holy crap, Christianity co-opted another religion's idea? And here I was thinking that the fish symbol was one of the roughly 3% of all Christian ideas that weren't purloined from earlier sources.
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You're so glib, chimaera. You don't even know what the fish symbol is. If you start talking about Christianity's co-toping, you have to evaluate and read the research papers on how they came up with these theories, chimaera, okay? That's what I've done. Scientology has revealed all to me. I'm clear. Now what?
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Fish, auspicious: two of them, usually, in Buddhist iconography.
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I did it all for the mahi-mahi.
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With this business of using a fish-symbol to represent a woman's genitalia, someone more crass than myself might be inclined to make some quip about cunnilingus. Not me, though. Pete, maybe. Yeah, definitely Pete.
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What, other cultures also used something as ubiquious as a fish as a symbol as well as the Christians? I'm shocked. Just shocked. Outraged even, by this startling revelation. Next thing you know, people will start claiming the sun has been used as a symbol by multiple cultures over time. Yep, the only obvious explanation is that they stole and coopted that symbol from whoever thought up of it first.
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I wouldn't trust a neo-pagan source on pagan symbology - there is a lot of myth and misreading going around the neopagan community. They like to make stuff up, regardless of the historical evidence. If you are really interested, pick up something solidly researched, like Ronald Hutton's Stations of the Sun.
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So....the Darwin fish...no good no more? Look, just keep me posted. How I accouter my car is crucial to the image I wish to project whilst motoring.
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I think sexyrobot is the ultimate authority on vehicle-as-extension-of-personal-style.
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I'm detecting a little bit of cynicism in this thread. And Vigoda.
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Smell that? You smell that? Vigoda, son. Nothing in the world smells like that. I love the smell of Vigoda in the morning. The smell, you know that Barney Miller smell, the whole thread. Smelled like...monkeyfish. Someday this thread's gonna end...