March 22, 2006

• O damn! Should have pout this inside! Forgive me tracicle, for a long mess on the index page.
• growl? rumble? purr?
• Do you mean when you've got a car in a gear too high for the speed, so it sounds all low and slow? That's called "lugging." I had a classic VW Bug that still had its old manual, and it said that when your car was lugging it sounded "sad." I loved that old car.
• I agree, in that "rumble", with appropriate adjectives such as sweet, purring, deep etc., are the words I always heard from my Harley addicted ex, with his ex-bike. For the more metropolitan, variations on resonance would apply to the strived-for vibe sound. A resonant "lugging", in neutral, thus would be a desirable sound in the lower pitch. All the accompanying biker males spoke similarly and the sound was sooooo important for the image, to them. *poke those bafflers out of that exhaust pipe, urgent! /I mutter different adjectives when I hear that sound now, myself. /and I'd love to know a way to organise my Mozilla bookmarks as well. Glad you asked, bees.
• Those are all good, but animal analogies, baby balrog ... trying to help someone writing an SF tale set on a moon without animals. You've an amusing monkey-name; if I weren't a bee-keeper of sorts, I think I'd be tempted to mine the Tolkien vein! Lugging sounds like toting a load ... of lug-nuts, perhaps? I'm trying to check that use online now, thank ye, meredithea. What I'm after is not chugging, the putta-putta noise, but a smooth low-pitched, smooth sound and preferably from a non-diesel engine.
• I prefer to just make the "wumwum" noises.
• Wumming... to wumm... wumble? ... bassoing? ... thrumming? ...thrumbling? ..thrumle, thrummel ... boomzooming.. ach!
• Thrumming I like. I'm not clear on the specific problem with FF bookmarks. It works pretty much the same way as IE favorites, doesn't it? You can create folders, or not, etc. Is it the menu itself you don't like? Here are two FF bookmarks tutorials.
• it's called idling, and this is a ridiculous fpp
• Thanks, mct. Heh! Nice one, if a wee bittie unSettling.
• I was going to say "thrum" too. Not sure about the Bookmark D-lemma though - do I have it that you want to organize on multiple levels, but don't want the directory structure it has? Are you looking for a search engine type of thing for the bookmarks?
• mct, I find it far less organized as it wants to make a great list of items at the top, then stuff folders here and there below in an order both unpredictable and difficult to find things in. At one point for a couple of months it would -- without prompting from me -- alphabetize some items, so now when I add new bookmarks I am forced to enter 'em several times simply so I can locate new entries and try to folder 'em in the confusion. As I said, I may not be using it to best advantage. but it is willful and does unexpected things I can't seem to undo and (now pluralizing myself) we hates it forever! I don't want an alphabetized system -- let alone or partially alphatizing one -- but a system I can compartmentalize things in to suit myself. /Yes, Disorganization is my handmaiden!
• bees, you do know that you can click on "bookmarks" at the top of the window, then just drag any of those suckers up or down or anywhere, right?
• bookmark duplicate detector bookmark tags for organizing in categories bookmark search two-pane bookmarks for displaying two levels of bookmarks (e.g. folder and contents) in separate panes.
• Click on Bookmarks
• Alas, tick, the previous trick is locating what ye would like to find first. There are things in there I only find by accident if at all -- which is not efficient! roryk, I'll try those and I thank you, but so far my steenking utilities eliminate my efforts to install plug-ins, new apps etc from FF and Mozilla. In theory, need to shut the machine down in order to get these to 'take' -- well, I simply never see 'em again once I re-start. They are fled and gone, like flowers o' the forest.
• bees, when I right-click my bookmarks there's a "Sort by Name" feature that will alphabetize the bookmarks. I don't know if it will UN-alphabetize them, but I'd imagine an unintended slip of the ol' right-click may have accidentally alphabetized them. If I recall, not doing it again will leave them in whatever order you save them as.
• Bees, the Firefox v2 is comming out very soon, and the main change is the revamp of the bookmarks and the addition of a system called "Places" to flag a page as interesting, tag it, keep in history, but not need to create or maintain a bookmark for the site. So you will be able to tag a page a cool, tag it with "timewaster" and "games" and then when you want to go back there, you just search for "games" and all the sites you tagged with that label will be presented. I know it will help me. Maybe it will help you.
• also, you may not have opened the Bookmarks Sidebar. Choose View - Sidebar - Bookmarks and then you can drag and drop your items and folders all around. Also, the idems are added to the bottom, so the most recently added item is at the bottom, unless you move it, or choose to "Sort By Name" from the right click menu.
• Mine alphabetise too, but I have everything in distinct folders and just hit "open all in tabs" because they're mostly blogs. The ones I don't check regularly are sorted by folder into subject: craft stuff in one, frugal/thrifty type sites in another, css tutorials and the like in yet another. I only have between ten and fifteen URLs at most in each folder so it's easy to sort. You probably know that having folders more than two layers deep is problematic at best, impossible to use at worst. Would sorting by subject, then alphabetically work? If there weren't so many things in a folder, I mean. And I'd have said "thrumming" too.
• Opera has a simple, intuitive bookmark system so you could possibly install Opera, import your Firefox bookmarks to Opera, organize them and reverse the process to get 'em back into Firefox. Murmur, grumble, drone, contrabasso, droom? well, droom ain't a word but...
• We're all starting to sound like Ents.
• rumbly whoosh?
• What utilities are you talking about? All the problems you are having sound like the machine is right screwed up.
• Another FF suggestion: use the search mechanism in Manage Bookmarks. You can also tag certain important bookmarks with a keyword, which you can then type in your location bar instead of a URL.
• I remembered the word, bees. throbbing Yes, the sound of a smooth running machine is a throbbing sound. I assume it's a guy thing, as in a reference to his own member and it's response to a sound of beauty. It's the rhythm and depth and beat that defines the sound. /now, must go learn about bookmarks.
• Mr. Horse has rebuilt bunchs o'truck and car engines, and in order to get them running in top shape, he adjusts it so that it has balanced "harmonics." There's a certain subtle cycling or rhythmic sound to an idling engine that indicates it's in good fettle. It's best heard by taking a one by stick and placing it on the engine then putting your ear to the other end. He taught Mrs. Horse to hear it, so I can vouch for it being real.
• Mr. Horse sounds wise in the ways of engine-fu.
• A friend of mine used to describe his favorite classical music as "Lotus Blossoms for the Ears." Perchance in that type of sensory-switch lies your descriptive word.
• For reasons too boring to go into I have to use Firefox on work powerbook at work, safari on powerbook at home, I.E. (aaargh) for about 2 intranet applications and use safari on home iMac. Syncing bookmarks was becoming a total nightmare so I bought URL manager pro, which has made life easier ...
• I have never used del.icio.us, but that's a web based bookmark . . thing, I hear. There's a thread somewhere around here on it. "fettle" *makes note of word, adds points to GraMma's score* It does sound like Mr. Horse has strong engine-fu. But I couldn't help wondering if he had a friend named Wilbur, because . . see . hee hee! . . cause then he could be out working on - heee! . . working on an engine and then Wilbur would come by and say something stupid like "so, you workin' on an engine?" Hee hee! and then . . . ha! . .and then he he could say "Oh Willburrrrr!" Hah! Hahahaa ehhhh. *snif*. *Cough*
• tracicle, thanks for tucking the mess inside! A wee bittie heyoka today: Just fired off, thanks to so many helpful monkeys, a missive about a rumblelugging, fluttermuttering vehicle, complete with counterbassoed wumblethrummer and sporting a pair of rebuilt throbberbobbles with a brand-new wafflebaffled idleguidance system. Now about question one, or, The Bookmarks from Hell: Ive concluded any system which only permits the alphabetized ordering of bookmarks is not for me. And when I drag a folder or bookmark into a certain position on a list I by god want to find that folder in that same position the next time I open the bookmark manager -- but this just isn't how it works. For me, anyway. Worst of all, the FF manager alphabetizes things by their URL designation and not by the title of the site nor by subject matter nor any other of the aspects of a website or page that I associate with it. Or if it has either of these capacities I've not discovered 'em thus far. I have never managed to retitle a site, if that option even exists. For this reason I try to corral similar ones in the same folder, a very time-consuming process. Sometimes bookmarks just disappear -- so many it takes a long time to sort through 'em all. I need to be able to direct a new bookmark into a folder I specify; this doesn't seem to be an option, either. Those are are my major and most pressing complaints. So I want another sytem altogether, I think. Thanks to all of you (your comments have been fun to read) -- and thanks especially to Balthasar and dickdotcom, who point to some more hopeful solutions. I very much appreciate the help. True, true, this machine is screwed up, jccalhoun. Long sad tale. Techy folk who've been consulted/have tried to mend the situation, with only limited success. Seems an initial attempt to uninstall a portion of a factory-installed business-model set of utilities followed by a second attempt to specifcally remove the firewall got done incorrectly. It's never worked right since, but at least it's mostly working. If not exactly as the manufacturer intended. Machine is getting on for 3 years old now and they tell me I will wish to replace it soon. (This I did not to be told, since I have wanted to put my booted foot through it for nearly 3 years now, and dance on its shattered remains.)
• Um... not sure what the problem is, bees. Far as I know Firefox has never reorganized my bookmarks for me. They get stuck in, top-to-bottom, in the order in which I bookmarked them, unless I rearrange them or right-click and choose "sort by name". In fact, when I tell it to sort by name, new files are added at the bottom, out of order. So let me see if I can understand this: Where are they showing up out of order - when you actually click the Bookmarks menu, or in the bookmarks manager window? Bookmarks menu - hit [alt]+[b] to bring them up. They should never appear any other way than in the order in which you left them. Bookmarks manager window (Bookmarks --> Manage bookmarks): Go to the View menu, choose "unsorted" and they'll be shown in the same order there that they appear in your actual [alt]+[b] bookmarks menu. Does that help?
• No Bees, ignore the seduction of throbbing or whatever, the word is THRUM - can be found in ASIMOV ( Ok sci fi geek out of closet) and possibly old Heinlein - think i met it there as well but could be wrong but hey just say it to yourself ..... Thruuuum Thruum. It works
• frogs, both in the bookmarks manager window and the bookmarks menu. The sidebar seems stable, but only shows folders. The righthand screen is where unfoldered https are, and that's where the confusion is. Right now showing eight unalphabetized https at the top. Next time I open the manager, unfoldered items may be different. fly, thank you -- thrumm is indeed a fine old word!