March 03, 2006
McCartney visits ice floes. Unfortunately, not abandoned there.
By appearing on Larry King to defend the seal hunt, Newfoundland Premier Danny Williams a) gives Macca the attention he was after all along, and b) legitimizes a celebrity's opinion as having authority of any kind whatsoever simply by virtue of his fame. Way to go, Danny-boy.
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(Don't get me wrong -- if Paul wants to stand up for something he believes in, and bring attention to that cause through his sheer celebrity, good for him. However, for the Premier to more-or-less debate the musician on national tv gives Paul an authority he simply does not have.)
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Well I don't understand the issues but if someone wants to club McCartney to death for his furry pelt, that's OK by me.
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Wait - so the taped debate hasn't aired yet? I'm cornfused. But to your specious point, good Cap'n, Sir Paul has as much authority as he needs. I just wish he would save it for when Shrubya tries to push the button. Then He & Ringo will meet at the secret ice cave to summon John & George and together with a mighty "one, two, three, FAH!" they'll kick up with such a stomping that all the birds will immediately begin screaming and running to the front of wherever they happen to be at that moment, crying and getting quite wet so that love and peace will truly reign supreme and this world will be so totally gear it will blow your mind, man. Is anyone else hungry? I could go for some crunchos or something.
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It would make for a spiffy hat, wouldn't it? But you'd probably need to boil it or disinfect it or something really well, to make sure that the Paul pelt doesn't meld into your skin and take over your thought processes. I've seen that on tv once...
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McCartney was always crap.
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I'm living on Prince Edward Island right onw and people are mostly talking about it like a curiousity. The seal hunters are almost all Newfoundlanders and the protesters aren't really from the community either, so we're just stuck with the bad reputation of both sides. But here's what I wrote in a little blog post on the subject yesterday: Dear Sir Paul I could have saved you the trip to our little island and just suggested you pay those awful seal hunters to not do their thing. Maybe they could go off and work in a factory farm where far more cruel practices happen every day, but not out in the open so you don't seem to care as much? Maybe you could help develop and build a factory seal farm where all this awful business can take place conveniently behind locked doors so the SUV-driving soccer moms of the world don't have to be so horrified.
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McCartney was always crap. *Bzzzzzt* I'm sorry, the correct answer was, "McCartney made some incredible contributions to popular songwriting and helped define the modern electric bass guitar in rock music." Still though, you get the "Sex with Quid's Corpse" home game, and a year's supply of Ruffles Sea Salt and Cracked Pepper potato chips. Ruffles - when you want to crunch good!
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I hate it when people have opinions. Why can't they just let the politicians decide everything?
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That's a good game, by the way. I always play as the shoe and try to land on the Free Wanking square.
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You're always on the free wanking square laddie.
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Careful, Friction Burn square is right after it.
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No I picked up a Community Chest card. Now everyone has to frottage my spleen, and I get another roll.
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Goddamned Community Bre- Chest cards.
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"Proceed directly to HOLE and receive 200 thrusts". Yep, it's a good game this. If only I wasn't a ROTTING CORPSE BEING FUCKED BY STRANGERS. Still, musn't grumble.
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*heads across Northumberland Straight with spray paint to save Beatle exoskeleton*
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Come to think of it, I'm not sure that any of us are qualified to have an opinion on the doings of Paul McCartney. How many of us are celebrities? That's what I thought, tell you what little monkeys, why don't we stick to doing the little monkey things we understand how to do, and leave the big ol' hard celebrity stuff to, you know, the celbrities? Don't you think that they might be better equipped to make celebrity oriented decisions than you or I? So, that being said, let's let the politicians and celebrities sort out all the problems, and we'll just continue doing what we know best: namely, fucking quid's rotting corpse, mkay?
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Well I'm certainly not a cerebality. They're all smart an' shit.
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Meanwhile, on the other side of the world, a has-been rockstar of a different calibre is jailed for fucking little girls.
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My problem isn't with McCartney, as much a wanker as he may be. My problem is with Danny Williams (also a wanker) going on tv to semi-debate him as an equal. Williams is an elected representative, speaking on behalf of his province. McCartney isn't a representative of anyone, isn't an expert in the field -- just a famous guy. Because Williams takes him on, he's turning McCartney into a figure of authority in this debate, and one equal to the premier of the province. That's my beef. The highest authority of the province shouldn't derrogate from the democratic mandate that elected him, and which he's obliged to support. We should not be according the same authority to a celebrity that we do the elected representative of the people. I don't fault Paul for accepting this attention and authority at all. I fault Danny for giving it to him.
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Now I'm all tense. Where's that quidquorpse at?
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We should not be according the same authority to a celebrity that we do the elected representative of the people. Woah woah woah mister. What about Bono?
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Which Bono are we talking about? 80s-mullet Bono, or wrapparound sunglasses Bono? The latter is probably cool enough to overcome any lack of electoral mandate, but the first is just as much a pompous wanker as Paul.
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He plays as the cannon.
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McCartney was always crap. Do you ever get tired of being wrong? (WARNING: DANGEROUSLY AWESOME LEVELS OF EMBEDDED AURAL WONDERFULNESS!!!)
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BONO IS SOLVING THIRD WORLD DEBT WITH A RED GUITAR AND THE TRUTH BUDDY
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I want to ask the Capt. what he is on about, but that would legitimize his opinion, so fuck that.
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Because Williams takes him on, he's turning McCartney into a figure of authority in this debate, and one equal to the premier of the province. But, couldn't you just as well argue that McCartney is giving Williams a little of his "authority" by debating him? I can tell you that Williams' records have, by and large, been schlocky and tuneless and hiding behind a slick production facade.
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Yeah, now I get what you're on about. I suppose that it speaks to the power our society affords a celebrity for no good reason. I mean, there are certainly plenty of people more knowledgeable about the issue than Mr. Beatle there, but they won't get to debate the premier on T.V. because they won't give the program the ratings edge that makes profit sense. Sad. It puts us in an interesting position, though. We wind up kind of *needing* people like Paul McCartney to pursue these matters, because otherwise they won't be acknowledged in the public forum at all. Who do you think Mr. and Mrs. Middle America would rather watch, some dried up prune of a woman who knows her shit but you've never heard of, or PAUL MC FUCKING CARTNEY!!!!?????
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Ex-Beatle still owes £20 on guitar he bought in 1961 Okay it's not Paul, but it seemed relevant. Or at least synchronicitous. Or maybe coincidental.
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"Still owes..." Uh yeah, good luck collecting on that.
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You know, I buy quite a bit of veggie burgers, tofu-ish items, and the various Fake Meats, etc. However, when I go to the store and see the McCartney branded food items I glare at them and buy something else. I refuse to give the McCartney foundation a fucking dime because Sir Paul does this sort of shit. If you give money to them, you're funding PETA. If you fund PETA, you're funding terrorism, in a much more direct way than if you were buying pot from the neighbor kid. Do I like aminals? Sure. Do I think that people need to be nicer to them? Hell yes. Do I think that the world would be better off if we just gave up on animal research and let the PETA fools win? Fuck no. We honestly know jack shit about how the brain works, and there's no substitute for learning about it except for actual brains. For the same reason, if seal populations are stable and the harvest is sustainable, then... shut the hell up and let people kill 'em off. Really. PETA wants us all to stop hunting too, which is also a great idea when you start thinking about how many damn deer there are. WAY too many. Why? We pushed out or killed off all of their predators: If we don't act on our own to limit the population, then we're not doing our jobs as top of the food chain. We've got the teeth of an omnivore - and until that changes this human isn't going to stop eating other critters. Yes, there are weird artificial rules about it (would I eat a cat? No, those are pets - what about a chicken? Yummy!) and yes, those animals that I am lunching on are sometimes treated badly. I do what I can - I go for cage-free eggs, hormone-free critters, and try to buy locally instead of from the nearest MegaMarket. Yes, people should be educated about some of this stuff - I eat what I eat knowing how the beef got from a cow onto my plate. But McCartney is a musician, and he needs to stick to that. Talked with a guy who went to a McCartney concert - he said it started with a half-hour PETA propaganda lecture before Sir Paul bothered to pick up a guitar. He didn't pay to hear that shit, and it's unfair of the guy to trap people into listening to his canned line of shit before he gives them what they paid for. GOD these people piss me off. For every person they reach in a good way, they end up convincing one other person that blowing up the research lab is the right thing to do. Because if Sir Paul thinks animals are worth killing people to save, hey who's to say that he is wrong? He's PAUL FUCKING MCCARTNEY. ...and yes I spelled it "aminals" on purpose.
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If you fund PETA, you're funding terrorism I wondered when we were gonna get there. You people are slow today!
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"If Paul McCartney thinks he's going to stop the seal hunt, ahead of him there's a long and winding road." 1. Yoda is the Federal Fisheries Minister of Canada? 2. Quid - a stranger's just a friend who hasn't shagged your corpse yet 3. George Harrison is an EX-BEATLE? You're a Beatle for life, baby. (It's like the Jets.) 4. I love you guys. You make skiving at work worthwhile.
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*hands frogs a beer--MADE FROM MEAT!!11!*
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I can't believe how many sausages they got out of Linda when she died. Taste great too.
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george harrison is an ex-parrot. he's pining for the fjords.
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He was tired and shagged out after a long squawk!
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The only reason he's up on stage is he's been nailed there.
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>which is also a great idea when you start thinking about how many damn deer there are. WAY too many. Why? We pushed out or killed off all of their predators: If we don't act on our own to limit the population, then we're not doing our jobs as top of the food chain. There are also too many people.
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We slo massively cut down the wild and wooded areas that were their habitat.
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I love how righties complain about liberal celebrities voicing their views but eat up whatever pap Toby Keith puts out, or elect Ronnie Reagan and Arnold. Hey, guess what, free society, people can speak their minds.
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quick list of cliched and wrong opinions re: the Beatles a) mccartney was crap, John had all the talent b) george was the 2nd most talented one c) "Something" is one of the greatest songs ever (just b/c Sinatra said it doesnt make it true or even close to true) d) "revolver" is a better album that "Sgt Pepper's"
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There are also too many people. Hey, we're trying to cull the herd! We took out this prime Quid over here, but I'm afraid there's not much left for eatin'. Maybe a rump roast...
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And yet the wild Quid in his native habitat seems to procreate after death. Or try, anyway.
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Revolver is better than Sgt Peppers
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yeah but the walrus was still Werzog.
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drjimmy11, could you please send us weekly e-mail updates on wrong opinions? I find your comments helpful and I'd like... oh never the fuck mind.
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I find it interesting how Paul receives more MoFi attention than Bush lying to the entire USA. xD I love the internet.
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Paul was good, but after he died, the crappy lookalike that replaced him sucked walrus balls.
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Miss him, miss him.
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I find it interesting how Paul receives more MoFi attention than Bush lying to the entire USA. Have you tried the the 'Filterverse's latest, greatest new flavor: http://CoalsToNewcastlefilter.com ? The Prez lyin'? Happens everyday, brother! Dude, The Cute Beatle is in freakin' Newfoundland!
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I just caught the tail-end of the re-run of this, and I have to say I was very impressed by Danny Williams and how he handled it. This is the first time I've seen a defense of the sealing industry that didn't end up making it worse. He cited proper statistics and studies by places like the World Wildlife Fund that said that sealing was more humaine than the fast majority of human hunting or fishing or farming practices. He's not going to change anyone's minds, people who are against sealing are going to stay that way, and it's an opinion I respect, but the attention paid to the sealing practice is completely unwarranted. On a sie note I think I'd much rather spend my life as a seal living freely in the wild and having my life ended by a swift knock to the head (I'd take that over a polar bear, at any rate) than being a cow that's born, raised, fed, slaughtered and served in a box.
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Oh come now the box is entirely optional.
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"...than being a cow that's born, raised, fed..." and then being exsanguinated while having my fucking tongue, eyes and asshole bored out by laser-scalpel wielding grey aliens from the Zeta Reticuli system and... oh.
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OK maybe the box might come in handy after all.
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I'll take the polar bear, thanks.
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That's not hardly outrageous enough, Chy.
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Medusa, the Polar Bear suit isn't available until April, would you settle for a gorilla?
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are you gonna MAUL me??? you animal!
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No, going to sing to you: Gorilla my dreams, I love you..
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Morrissey supports seal hunt protesters, boycotts Canada on upcoming tour Mr. Koko made these insightful, off-the-cuff remarks: "I don't really support the seal hunt, but I would say the issue is definitely more complicated than they are letting on. They are reacting to the hunt without dealing with the political and social realities of the region. Like a lot of environmentalists, they want to push their agenda without considering what else is involved. Do you shut down an entire industry in order to preserve some animals? Well, maybe you do, but not without considering what you are going to do with everyone currently working in that industry. My problem with them is that they want to scream about barbarity towards the "wittle animals" from a position of wealth & luxury without worrying about the impact on people who struggle to earn a living. I think they are also very conveniently ignoring a Native rights issue ... very conveniently because I'm sure Morrissey and Paul McCartney don't want to be perceived as AGAINST Native rights. But, unfortunately for them, actual Native people want things that don't correspond with their idea of what they should want. One of the treaty rights Natives have always demanded in Canada is no restrictions on their right to hunt and fish ... and they demand it because it is in the actual treaties and they view it as an important tradition. I'm pretty sure that the annual seal hunt is protected by Inuit treaties, so what McCartney, Morrissey and the others are demanding is that the Canadian government unilaterally break the treaties."
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Morrisey: "As the world knows, this slaughter is about one thing only: making money." And your upcoming tour is about what, exactly?
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Morrissey's tour == slaughter of baby seals I read a blog post or article recently that called for a boycott of all Newfoundland products. FUCKING EXCELLENT PEOPLE. I support the clubbing of baby seals provided it is done humanely, the species is not in any way endangered, and it is supporting a large community dependent on the slaughter for income. I also support the killing of less cute mammals for my dinner.
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Go vegetarian. *straps on helmet, runs*
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Also, seal meat is very tasty.
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Kinda gamey. Like a human's.
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I'm just gonna try this one out, see how it flies: A. Don't kill the cute animals for my dinner; kill the ugly animals for my dinner. B. Don't layoff the cute, young women; layoff the old, ugly women. Lamb for dinner, anyone?
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Ewe're missing the point. I think. But I could be wrong or just hungry.
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How many roads must a lamb walk down Before ewe can call him a ram?
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Duh! 42.