January 03, 2006

Curious George: How long does exposed 35mm film last? A few weeks ago, when clearing out my late father's stuff, I found a metal 35mm film canister. This has a screw cap labelled 'ILFORD Refill - open in darkroom'. I opened it (nothing to lose) and found what appears to be an exposed roll of 35mm film in it's cartridge. I assume it's exposed, because it doesn't have a 'tail' of film hanging out. The film itself is labelled 'ADOX KB 17 PANCHRO 17/10deg DIN, 32 ASA, 28deg SCH.' with a big '20' and 'made in Germany'. I suspect it dates from the early 1960's. What do photograpic MoFites suggest? Is it worth taking it to be developed? Would it be perished and unusable? I know nothing of these (and many other) things.
  • Too many variables to answer this, temperature, storage conditions, light, etc......IMHO Take it in to be developed, worth the gamble.
  • you'll probably get some cool abstracts out of it, but odds are there wont be much to print.
  • Of course, go ahead! Old rolls are full of surprises. KB17 was the most famous film of Adox, a high sharpness film. It was created in the fifties and they stopped production in the beggining of the sixties, so you're probably right about the 'early 1960's) If you don't develop it yourself, tell the shop to try Rodinal 1:50, ISO 32.
  • Cost of developing it vs. curiosity, right? I'm rooting for curiosity.
  • It's your late father's. Try it out. Have it developed, see what comes out. What's the worst that could happen? Film went bad, no pictures, you're out a few bucks. No big deal. (Actually, the worst that could happen is that there are some home-made nudie shots of your mom or something, but let's not think about that.)
  • Here's a guy who has a hobby of developing film he finds in old cameras. Looks like he gets some great results. Go for it!
  • Cool link, un-. Do let us know if it turns out! (tries not to think... tries not to think...)
  • It could be a picture of the grassy knoll...
  • AAAAAND the Captain wins! I just knew someone would suggest something like that. Thanks. As it is, I suspect the pictures would be of either: My Mum on holiday on a windy beach; a Vincent Black Shadow motorbike; a hill or tree. (this being late 1950's England) Thanks for the encouragement - I'll take it to a developer. Not a crappy High Street SupaSnaps chain, but a pro outfit. They'll probably tell me not to bother, but as Stan says, the curiosity outweighs the effort. And thanks for the tech tip, rogersm. I'll show you the results. Unless CaptR was right, in which case, you'll never see me again.
  • No, if Capt is right, we DEFFO want to see the results. Hubba hubba, woof woof!
  • Do I win the nudie pics?
  • Yes. Unfortunately, they're of me. *disrobes seductively*
  • I'll let you know what they get on eBay. (Better make the reserve half a can of flat Fanta. That'll be met, right?)
  • Even if the Cap'n be right, we still want to see. Just pixellate the embarrassing bits.
  • Yeah, just pixellate the embarrassing bits. Because it's not enough trauma to accidently see a naked picture of your mother— you should be forced to focus on those naughty bits by having to select them out in photoshop.
  • That found film site is incredible! I keep finding old rolls of 35mm film around the house, and they're probably something awesome. I mean, I took the time to take the pictures, right? I wish I had the means to develop them myself.
  • Yeah, do it. And I agree with the suggestion of Rodinal or HC-10 1:15 at 75 degrees for about 10 minutes with very little agitation. What I'm saying is overdevelop the hell out of it. The little silver halides are going to need a lot of help. DIN 32 is very slow film.
  • Hi Blanky.
  • Monkeyfilter: but let's not think about that.
  • There's no reason why at least some of it shouldn't come out. I've heard of older film being developed.
  • MonkeyFilter:Hubba, hubba, woof, woof.
  • you should be forced to focus on those naughty bits by having to select them out in photoshop. i suggest using the smudge tool as it is shaped like a finger
  • You sick, fucking sexy robot, you. Wait, that sounds strangely alluring. And that was NOT my intention, oh no.
  • MonkeyFilter: you should be forced to focus on those naughty bits. Just continuing the theme...
  • I had a roll of old film (Kodak Tri-X?) processed 25-30 years after it was exposed. The frames that weren't light-damaged (by my own clumsiness, most likely) produced recognizable pictures. No parental naughty bits were involved.
  • Aw, you guys! You're so cute, with your besmirching of my late Mum's memory. It gives me a real warm feeling, you know? I'll be taking the fillum in tomorrow, so I'll report back.
  • that may have sounded touchy - wasn't meant to be!
  • C'm'ere ya big lug! *plants smacker on muteboy's forehead*
  • Hey you two, get a darkroom!
  • You guys! *shadow boxes flaggy*
  • *holds on to kit slightly longer than is appropriate* Flagpole, that's funny cos when I was phoning around yesterday, one guy at a camera shop suggested I develop it myself. I nearly choked on my cuppa. Of course! I'll build a darkroom and buy lots of chemicals. As it is, I found a guy who runs a shop selling 'retro' film and stuff, who says he'll do it for me. So it's in the post now. Fingers crossed. *vows never to wash forehead*
  • *Feels slightly sullied / quietly enjoys it*
  • Man, this whole line of discussion is just a chance for muteboy to shout, "MY EYES!" ...Twice! (once while reading, once while looking at the naked pics of his mom with kitfisto.)
  • Are they back yet? I know it's only been a few hours, and that you said you mailed them, but it's never too early to start nagging.
  • MonkeyFilter: No parental naughty bits were involved.
  • speak for yourself, gra'ma...
  • Are we there, yet?
  • Stick a fork in me, mater, I'm done...
  • Stay on target . . .
  • Lara, this being the UK, and since the Royal Mail has effectively been privatised, there is no guarantee the film will arrive at all. But I've emailed the guy for an update. And as I said, I'll tell you all as soon as I get any results (depending on the results *gulp*)
  • WELL THAT WAS AN ANTICLIMAX There was no film in the cartridge. My father kept, for years, a 35mm film roll, with no film in it, in a metal canister, in the attic. Sorry to be such a disappointment to you all. And I was so looking forward to seeing photos of my Mum, or my Dad's Vincent, or both together! Na ja, so geht's
  • I now have nothing to look forward to.
  • My father kept, for years, a 35mm film roll, with no film in it, in a metal canister, in the attic. That sounds like the opening line of a short story by Faulkner.
  • My disappointment knows no bounds.:<
  • Bad muteboy! Go to your room!
  • *sigh* Does this mean I have to return the nudie pics of kit? 'Cuz I found a buyer. His name is petebest.
  • Publish and be damned!
  • It's obviously a cover-up. He had pictures of alien spaceships in hanger 19 or 23 or whichever one it was, and the NSA or the MJ12 got to it. Fuckyaz.
  • You said those were of Koko! Charlatan! Swindler! Gypmonger! Oh well - at least we know eh? I mean, it could have been worse . . .
  • Chy, you may be right. My Dad did work for British Telecom for 43 years, commissioning sites such as Echelon and the underground nuclear bunker stuff. Perhaps the film dissolved after being zapped by some secret Government ray, after the pictures were mind-read by a CIA operative lizardman working for the Illuminati. He did come home late sometimes. And as petebest says, it could have been worse. Here are some photos, anyway: Conciliatory Flickr Photofeed
  • Awwww cute pup!!
  • Couldn't you have swiped some pictures off the internet and made up some stories about them to keep us entertained? Gheesh! Just kidding. Sorry about the no pics. Hey, wait. How do we know they weren't some amazing pictures and now you're going to sell them to the tabloids or something and so you're telling us there were no pictures to throw us off the scent when really they were there?
  • Bigfoot!
  • Second shooter! Elvis and Howard Hughes' love nest!
  • Look, erm, I just can't talk about it, OK? There were photos, but you wouldn't believe what was on them. And now the phone makes weird noises, and I'm certain I was followed home last night.
  • Oh, sorry, that was me.
  • Were you hearing slurping noises from behind you?
  • Were you hearing slurping noises from behind you?
  • Heh.