October 13, 2005

• I'd like to start this even-handed and intelligent debate with this statement: Freaks! Stop fucking breeding!!!!!
• So the guy puts his John Thomas in, ouila, and it's a "blessing from the Lord". I would consider the baby's health a blessing... the rest of it is just an expected consequence, especially after 16 kids.
• Ta daaaa
• You know, I was *almost* *slightly* ok with this until I read the bit about all of the children having names that begin with 'J.' BLEEEAACHHHH!!
• kit, that is just grand! *hunches over the loo*
• FWIW, if each generation raises 16 kids, then there will be 256 grandchildren and 4,096 great-grandchildren.
• *insert graph of exponentially rising world population*
• I hope that these children are all loved, and have a great life. However, let me note that it is a vagina, not a clown car.
• I used to have a babysitter who had 17 brothers and sisters. My babysitter was 18 and the oldest of the kids. Her mother had a baby every year for 18 years. The family was poor and lived in a three bedroom one bath house. I once asked her why her mother and father would want to have so many kids to feed and clothe. Her reply, "My mom and dad have a twisted faith in God, they believe that all will be provided for them through their faith." Her family struggled daily to obtain what they needed just to survive. There were no extras and sometimes the only meal the kids had was school lunch. I was amazed that anyone would keep having babies knowing that there was no money to support them. At least this family appears to be able to support the kids. Still I think they are nuts.
• Wow, it's like a sequel: "Eight is Enough x 2." And I thought my great grandparents were going overboard with 10 kids...
• So excluding "the God argument" . . why 10 / 15 / 18 kids?
• Well, 2 degrees of separation... My best friend dated a guy briefly who claimed to have 32 aunts and uncles. They were Catholic from Quebec. I imagine technically its possible and someone, somewhere had to do it! I've heard that after numerous children, a woman's uterus can fall out. How that didn't happen to this woman, I'll never know.
• It must be gawd's will. Squeeze out another puppy, love, the world's not crowded enough!
• oh and btw, EarWax wins. Thanks everyone!
• Seconded.
• Crotch fruitbasket.
• They say everyone has a special talent.
• My mom's the fifth of 15 kids. One at a time, pre-IVF/etc. and no multiples. I have no idea why they did it. They aren't righteous fundies or anything. Which kind of makes it even more odd, come to think of it. There may have been a reason at the time, but I never heard it. No silly naming schemes, either! Though we did learn the names of all our aunts and uncles by rote recitation like the names of the planets. And my generation is quite large. None of the brood has had more than 3 kids, but I still have >20 cousins so far, many of whom have little clue who I am, probably. I'm the eldest, and closer in age to my own mother than I am to some of my cousins. Down the line, it all depends on how this generation grows up, I bet. If they all have a passel like that, it will get really huge really fast. If they return to the usual 2.5, the family structure is different than most (more horizontal than vertical), but it really isn't that bizarre. And they don't seem as bad as it COULD be - they don't seem bent on populating the earth or amassing a small blond army. If you can care for that many and give them the attention they'll need... I may cringe a little and think of overpopulation, but it could be worse.
• I've recently become aware of a non-obvious downside to having a large family. The husband of a friend is one of many siblings - 6 or 8, I believe. All the siblings are married and have children. The grandparents get so tired and worn out from continuous family visits (and no one lives that close to them) that they just want the kids to go away. There is now a limiting and carefully monitored visitation schedule to keep the grandparents' heads from exploding.
• ...man, that sounded bad, my explanation. I have bad mental images right now. But really, they had the means - and worked hard, got some help from extended family, etc. All but one got college educations (all but my mom, actually). Sooooo it's not an unwashed horde in the boondocks or anything. /slinks off
• The hair pretty much says it all, eh? On preview: Look into her eyes... Am I the only one who sees desperation and a faint cry for help?
• GranMa! Gimme them castratin' tongs. I'm headin' to Li'l Rock, on a mission from the taxpayers of Murrica.
• Aside from the weird-fundie aspect of it, if they can provide for those kids and give them all the nutrition and nurturing they need... well, they'd be 16 times as successful as a lot of families with one neglected kid. That said, EarWax totally wins.
• This couple did a special television show for TLC when she was pregnant with her 15th kid. Anyone else seen it? Clearly someone has provided for them - the most amazing part of the whole show was when the parents said they had no debt. My eyes bugged out. I've got just one kid and I can't say that. She homeschools the brood, and they all seem happy. I really wanted it to be a put-on for the cameras but it didn't feel that way at all. The only really creepy part was where all the girls said they want just as many kids of their own.
• Cases like this are interesting to me from a historical standpoint in the US. Large families (lets say a rough average of 12 siblings) were borne of necessity in the agriculturally-based society during the 1800~1900's. All those extra hands helped get chores done on the farm! If I look back on both of my families the trend appears similar: [rough numbers]         1880                       1900         1940        1970       2000 G.Grandparents ----> 12 kids --->4 kids --->3 kids ---2 kids Which seems to makes sense in today's [US] society. It's the cases such as this that make me scratch my head in wonder (and amazement).
• So when are they finally going to get it right? Here's a condom. Send one of the older ones to college.
• good thing the water, soil, and clean air resources are infinite. And don't run the faucet all night just to check. Like last time.
• A couple has 16 kids and now the world is overpopulated? I guess they should have stopped at 15.
• Overpopulation is not a function of the number or density of the individuals, but rather the number of individuals compared to the resources they need to survive. In other words, it is a ratio: population over resources. So as long as there's no starvation or drought in the world, then bring 'em on! Conversely, there's no starvation or drought in Arkansas - or Little Rock - or their household - so, no overpopulation. *tweeee!* Play ball!
• I just don't get it. I can't imagine having sex with either of them.
• My wife sent me the link to this story along with the comment "WTF? She must have the worlds biggest vagina!" I couldn't agree more. My immediate thought when I saw this was "Get that for me, would you Lydia dear?" every sperm is sacred... the poor little home-schooled kids, they probably will end up having 30 kids each when they do find a Jesus-approved mate.
• I'm sure there's a BJ in store for you, Captain.
• I'd be afraid of messing up the hair, though.
• Good thing she was white so we can all have a good laugh.
• Am I the only one who's thinking that shit must be real sweet?
• I mean he's beating that thing like it owes him money!
• Anyone else subdue the gag reflex long enough to get to this? God sends a Laundry Angel, wreathed in a halo of Ivory Snow. Blech. Also, there are holes in her story.
• Did you notice that the new baby, Johannah, has an older sister named Joy-anna? Okay by me if they want to have a bunch of kids, but I really think you should stop when you've run out of unique names. Or at least move on to "K." Would it be so bad to have a Kaitlen or Kaydin like everyone else?
• Literally mountains of laundry! Literally. /gagging Urgent needs. hee.
• Okay, someone needs a snipping. I think both of them, so they can't go off with someone else. All things being equal, I'm glad that they seem to be able to provide a loving and stable environment to raise their gaggle o' kids. But just because you CAN, doesn't mean you SHOULD!!!!
• Groucho: So, you got any kids? Female Contestant: Yes, Groucho, I have eleven children. Groucho: Eleven?! Did you say eleven kids? Female Contestant: Well, I love my husband. Groucho: Lady, I love my cigar but I take it out of my mouth once in a while.
• HA! Pepsi shot right through my fake-nose-and-glasses
• I'm going to pray that God will send somebody over to clean up my filthy apartment. Or do I have to have a whole crapload of kids for that to work?
• [Genesis 9:1] And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. Check. Gotcha. Mission Accomplished. Now what?
• I'm thinking of the sex this couple must have. Visually, it must be like a fishing line being dropped into the ocean.
• Hammer. Cork. Problem solved.
• must be like a fishing line being dropped into the ocean. ...tapioca pearls going up a bubble-tea straw.
• And I thought my aunt and uncle's 8 (they range from 32 to 12) was odd...
• DAD: So, you see my problem, little ones: I can't keep you all here any longer. GIRL: Speak up! DAD: I can't keep you all here any longer! God has blessed us so much, I can't afford to feed you anymore. NIGEL: Couldn't you have your balls cut off? DAD: Hohh, it's not as simple as that, Nigel. God knows all! He'd see through such a cheap trick. What we do to ourselves, we do to Him. GIRL: You could have had them pulled off in an accident. CHILDREN: [talking] DAD: No. No, children. I know you're trying to help, but, believe me,... CHILDREN: Ohh... DAD: ...me mind's made up. I've given this long and careful thought, and it has to be medical experiments for the lot of you.
• like throwing a hotdog down a warm hallway...HAR!!
• I'm writing a paper on polygamy, and according to young people in Senegal, growing up with 10+ siblings seems like a hell of fun. That said, here's what (oral) sex between them would be like: Michelle: Oh, Jim Bob, Jim Bob Jim Bob: What was that honey? It's hard to hear when my head is INSIDE your vagina. 1st place: Earwax 2nd place: drjimmy 3rd place: Groucho
• Do they have a pony?
• Ah, please, isn't that enough on the vagina size thing? I do think having lots of children is pretty stupid if you don't need them to work on your primitive farm, or don't have to worry about childhood diseases wiping them out, or don't have access to birth control. And these folks strike me as being more into the attention they foresee from their (her?) labor than anything else, but I'd speculate that the point of this post is not how much they still enjoy sex for its own sake. Maybe they never did enjoy it for that. Maybe they're trying to get into the Guiness Book of World Records.
• I must protest, horrorshow. Medusa gave them all a run for their money.
• Wurwilf, no need to slink anywhere! You all turned out just fine, and that's what counts. My family tends to have small one or two member broods, but that's because we're loners. I've known people from huge families, and many seemed like members of a large, close-knit pack. I often envied that. Unless, of course, your family is disfunctional, and then it's like being at war with battalions of your own DNA. I've seen that too.
• well I can't take credit for the hotdog statement, it was the description a friend used to compare the experience of anal sex after having been fisted. and thanks for the vote, mct, these are the types of competitions in which I most desire to excell .
• it was the description a friend used to compare the experience of anal sex after having been fisted. I really, really want to meet you now. ;)
• Sorry I'm late to the picnic, what's u... SWEET HOLY JEBUS! Somebody spay that bitch! And fershure neuter the damn husband and the family dog. These people are idiots. Not just idiots, but fundy idiots that want to be in politics so they can force their goofy religion on us godless types. Bleah. GranMa! Gimme them castratin' tongs. I'm headin' to Li'l Rock, on a mission from the taxpayers of Murrica. Hurry, Fishtick, hurry!! Take all five pair and GramMa's branding irons, too. Never mind the Greyhound bus, to the Batmobile. Murrica must be saved from the slavering horde. Earwax is sooo totally my hero. We must bow to him. MonkeyFilter: Let me note that it is a vagina, not a clown car.
• nope. Slightly annoying - I think they all grew up yelling for the spotlight at all times, so there's a bit of that - but not dysfunctional. :) said with the utmost affection, mind you. I've heard the hotdog/hallway comment somewhere else entirely, without the warm part. *twitch*
• I, uh.........nevermind.
• I saw the special when she was pregnant with number 15. I started off watching with mild curiosity (I grew up next door to a family with 13 kids -- the oldest my mom's age, the youngest my age, so I thought it was no big deal), but the show got weirder and weirder as it went on. I can see homeschooling the kids, since there are so many. I can see where all the girls wear identical dresses, because they're on tv. But... the girls all have long, long hair, ostensibly for religious reasons (I had long hair most of my teenaged years and was asked if it was for my religion, which it wasn't, so this could be not the case). The father runs a church outside of his home, and his church members also have very large families that are homeschooled, with long haired daughters in identical dresses. I dunno... this smells very odd, to me. Don't get me wrong, I self-identify as a Christian (as you know, a freaky left wing Christian, but still), so that doesn't automatically put the family on my "weirdo" list. This family strikes me as very, deeply, weird, though.
• I say kill em all. Let their god decide. And yes, it must be like dipping your dick in a bucket.
• Jinger. Seriously, enough with the J names (that aren't even really J names). I was going to comment on the abundant amounts of 80s permed hair, but I see that's already been taken care of.
• Top Ten Signs You Have Too Many Kids 10. "Kids sleep in bunk beds, sit on bunk sofas" 9. "Any movie you take kids to instantly becomes number one film in the country" 8. "You're spending $7.3 million a year in allowance" 7. "Family wiffle ball game has larger attendance than Devil Rays games" 6. "A 'Gap For Kids' just opened in your living room" 5. "In speech on global warming, Al Gore holds up your gas bill" 4. "When your kid says, 'I Love You', you say, 'And you are?'" 3. "Locals refer to you as 'That couple that's always doin' it'" 2. "FEMA is airlifting Cheerios and Barney videos to your home" 1. "Neighbors take up collection to buy you a vasectomy" via
• Hey - I got a hilarious comment for y'all! This chick, right - she must have a HUGE CUNT. HA HA HA HA HA! HA HA HA HA HA! HA HA HA HA HA! Do you get it? It's because she has all these children, and they all came out of her CUNT. It's funny, you see, because (a) genitals are inherently hilarious; and (b) the vagina is undeniably associated with the concept of male sexual satisfaction in our phallocentric society, thus there exists a disposition to contrast this function, dictated by our culture, with the supposed results of bearing a number of children, i.e. a widening or "stretching" of the vagina; which would, if done to a significant or indeed caricatured degree, reduce the amount of friction-pleasure that predominately the male (and yet also perhaps the female) in question would receive from vaginal penetration by the penis in the act of sexual congress - noting of course that such a caricature would not be drawn should the mother have had only a limited number of children (e.g. one particularly large child); and, given the norm in western societies that having the proverbial two-point-two children is average and thus "socially correct", the "wide cunt" motif can also be used as a method for shaming rituals, in which the mother in question is vilified for raising children (a "natural" or indeed animalistic function of the human being) rather than providing sexual satisfaction to her male partner (the "rational" and thus more socially desirable function of the woman in our age). HA HA HA HA HA! WIDE CUNT!
• Quiddy, you cunt!
• Yeah!
• "Their children include two sets of twins, and each child has a name beginning with the letter "J": Joshua, 17; John David, 15; Janna, 15; Jill, 14; Jessa, 12; Jinger, 11; Joseph, 10; Josiah, 9; Joy-Anna, 8; Jeremiah, 6; Jedidiah, 6; Jason, 5; James, 4; Justin, 2; Jackson Levi, 1; and now Johannah." "Joy-Anna" and "Johannah" are bad enough, but "Jinger"? Can't those people spell a simple English word? And by the way, if that "cunt-stretching" thing is valid then Mister Duggan must have a willy that's a yard across. Assuming their kids ain't all turkey-basted, I mean. Maybe with every new sprog he increases in girth like the old Sequoyahs?
• Monkeyfilter: with every new sprog he increases in girth
• Mmm . . Quid makes a good point . . . buuuut . . I'm still going with EarWax on this one. Bring us champagne! *clap!* *clap!*
• True, "clown car" was priceless.
• I've heard that "clown car" is a quote from a movie, since it came up in a posting of this link elsewhere. (here we go - I've never heard of that movie, though). And that post was ... damn. I am in awe.
• Hacks borrow, artists steal.
• Quidnunc, you rock and that is an awesome comment. Thank you for saying that.
• Thanks for reigning us in, there, mr thought policeman. I thought for a minute I couldn't resist making a joke about the size of her vent. I guess I'll just have to satisfy myself with mocking her religious beliefs.
• You could go with the fist-stretched-rectum angle. hard to say - harder to see!
• Monkeyfilter: the fist-stretched-rectum angle...
• It rectum all right. He could hardly stand. Ha! Allright, no pushing, I'll show myself out.
• I'm just curious about what the ZPG crowd have to say. That's the bit that bugs me the most. This couple has access to a bunch of kinds of birth control as well as (one would hope) education about the impact of so many people on the environment. It really bothers me -- having this many children seems selfish to me.
• Having children is selfish? You have a couple yourself, don't you? Was it selfishness that made you want to have them? I'm amazed at people who have expressed outrage over this, or have called for the couple to be sterilized. I hope you're joking...but even if you are, it shows how much you really don't value personal freedoms. People are free to have as many or as few children as they wish, just as they're free to have none. Do you really want the government or anyone else interfering with that right? And who do you want as the authority who decides how many is enough?
• I'm with rocket88 on this one. If they can afford to raise them all in a healthy and happy environment, good for them. As I said above, if this had been a black or latino family, 99% of the people here would be petrified to say anything negative. But "white trash" are always fair game.
• There's a tinge of selfishness in that there's only so much parenting to go around in a 24 hr day, nevermind planetary resources and environmental footprints and such. Mom and Dad are necessarily preoccupied with the youngins, either the one just out or the one on the way. The older ones are going to be ignored, however unwillingly. On top of that, the older ones are going to have to do some of the parenting for the parents. They really are getting the short end of the stick. However well intentioned this baby-factory may be, and even if they're stocked with all the material support they could ever need (which I doubt), the parents can't give the pre-existing children the attention and teaching that they need. There's always a drive and focus on the kids to come -- and for what? Why keep making them if you can't give the older ones what they need as it is? Why this need to keep making more, when the assorted deprivations to your existing kids will keep getting less and less? Quality vs. quantity.
• I don't think tracicle mentioned the government, or anyone else, interfering with it. It was more a call on the personal values of this couple. Sure, nobody should tell them they can't have that many kids. They have every right to have as many as they want. But I don't think it's horrible to think that they're selfish for not coming to the conclusion on their own that maybe this isn't such a great idea. I personally can't help but wonder how the mother can homeschool them while taking care of three infants at the same time. Part of me thinks the older kids in this mix must have a raw deal. Also, although it was hilarious, the story about the mother being in tears because she couldn't keep up with the laundry says to me that she/they have bitten off more than they could chew. They now expect that God will send all the help they need. In other words, people will step up and volunteer to help them. That's willingly and knowingly getting yourself over your head and then assuming God will send somebody to fix it. That's selfish. The people that are helping them could be helping poor children already living. Mom and Dad could be devoting all this time and energy (not to mention money) to helping people already living. Instead, they're just creating more and more kids that will create more laundry to be pawned off on piano teachers who feel sorry for them. To me, that's selfish. It's anybody else's right not to feel that way, and I'm not calling for my government to tell them they can't have any more. I still think it's selfish.
• I agree with rocket88. I know you were all waiting for me to weigh in. Also, I don't understand the "All their names start with 'J', how stupid!" crowd (or individual).
• There's a tinge of selfishness Maybe so, but I really dont feel like I or anyone has the right to judge. If they cant provide a healthy, safe environment, it's the job of state social services to intervene. But if that's not the case, it's totally their business. We could all be doing a lot of "better" things with our lives- but society gives us the freedom (within reason) to choose what we want to do for ourselves. Also, I would imagine most of the critics are pro-choice. How can you support a woman's reproductive freedom when it comes to abortion, but not when it comes to having a lot of children? Seems to me "keep your laws off my body" cuts both ways.
• As Lara mentioned, who said anything about laws or government interference? That's not been suggested or implied as far as I've seen, so let's drop that part. I think it's been put pretty well; it's difficult to think that 16 kids can get the time, attention, and resources they need or deserve from these parents alone. Does this analogy work: I'm busy working on the great International Novel, can someone come clean the house, tend the yard, do the shopping, make the money, entertain and the myriad other things that need done while I pursue my single interest?
• Maybe not government interference but theres sure a lot of talk about what people "should" and are "obligated" to do. if you choose to write the novel, its none of my or anyone's damn business how you clean the house, tend the yard, do the shopping, make the money, entertain and myriad other things...
• rocket88, I don't think anybody said anything about the government. I think this is more an example of a society's (granted, a small society's) response to behavior it sees as potentially not so good or at least outside the mainstream. I'm not making any kind of judgment on that, for the record. That said, I think this chick must be a total slut.
• I don't understand the "All their names start with 'J', how stupid!" crowd (or individual). It's cheesy. You probably wear stripes with plaid, don't you.
• How can you support a woman's reproductive freedom when it comes to abortion, but not when it comes to having a lot of children? I don't think the point is opposing her reproductive freedom. Just as one can support abortion rights while hating the practice, one can support a woman's right to to choose to have 25 kids while still regarding her choice as a bad one.
• I'm just curious about what the ZPG crowd have to say. Doesn't bother me a whit. They're a statistical outlier. If I thought that they represented a trend, then I'd fret.
• How pretty. A family is apparently able to care for their litter, and it's still wrong. What is appalling is the blame the wide-cunt-slut angle most are advancing. What about Mr. No-Zip-It Sperm Spewer? Where's he? Noooooo, it's allabout the bitch what spread her legs. Fuck you. Men have no right to insinuate themselves in the reproductive rights argument, because men remove themselves from the genesis of the issue.
• Plus, I fully agree with dr.jimmy et al here.
• Oh, sweet Christ, get a sense of humor.
• oh, my bd. This is funny? Sorry, missed th joke.
• Guess I'd better buy some vowels.
• Plus, shut up, you santimonious overblown hoo-ha stooge. Hawhthorne wingnut indeed.
• Sorry, like it's worth the effort: should be sanctimonious. thx
• What the fuck, Shamina? You show up late in this thread, maingly to do an awful lot of assuming things about people you don't know from Eve. Fuck you right back, you humorless, self-righteous moron.
• Shamina, please calm down so this can remain something resembling a decent discussion. Yes, there have been some pretty rank comments but I'd like to think we could still have an interesting conversation on the subject. I'm all for a woman's right to do what she wants with her body, but just as I'd be concerned about a woman who's had fifteen abortions because she's not educated about correct forms of birth control, I can feel concern for a woman who has fifteen children because she feels it's her religious obligation. Incidentally, I found while looking for the ZPG website that next week is Population Awareness Week. Heh.
• I mean, what kind of reaction do you expect when practically the first thing out of your mouth is a mass "fuck you"?
• Okay, okay already. Start over?
• I remembered my vowels and all.
• I don't see what this has to do with (alleged) overpopulation, either. For one thing, I don't think the world is overpopulated. Parts of it may be, but if resources were better allocated, there'd easily be enough for everyone. The ZPG folks are a misguided lot who have the power to lower the world's population by eliminating themselves, but for some reason choose not to (there's selfishness for ya!). As for these parents' time being stretched too thin to properly care for all their kids, there's no evidence at all to back up that claim. From what I've seen and read about this family, each of these kids receives more attention, love and guidance than a lot of American kids, whose parents are too busy with their careers, their substance abuse, or their TVs to give them the time of day. I don't understand what makes someone want so many kids...it's way more than I would want. At the same time I don't understand people who don't want any kids at all. But I wouldn't criticize either group and say they're wrong. They're just different.
• It's a failure of modernity. They're applying pre-modern attitudes to the sanctity of child-rearing without the infant mortality rates and whatever that accompanied them. It also reeks of similarly outdated ideas about a woman's true role and purpose which are every bit as objectionable as some of the misogyny in the in-thread mockery. It's disingenuous or mistaken to get on your high horse about the latter without acknowledging the former. North America is one of the few places that isn't suffering from resource conflicts due to overpopulation (whilst perversely consuming an outrageous proportion of the what resources we do have through the magic of global capitalism). I wouldn't legislate to stop people having however many children they want and can rear, but I'd have been more impressed if they had two of their own and sponsored 14 orphans from the hungry South. God loves them every bit as much.
• Abiezer, I just sat here for half an hour trying to come up with an eloquent (even a tiny bit!) comment explaining why I feel the way I do. You pretty much expressed how I feel about this, although I admit I never considered the "misogyny" with regard to the woman's role. (Apparently the US population is projected to hit 420 million by 2050. I wonder what critical mass would be.)
• I disagree with just about everyone in this thread in that I do think that government should set limits on the number of children people can have. And I mean all governments everywhere, no matter what the population density. From Rwanda and Bangladesh to Australia and Canada. There may be ample resources in sparsely populated, rich contries, but a significant portion of those resources come from less wealthy countries that are willing to degrade their environment to get money. The lower we humans keep our population, the longer we have before we have to deal with the consequences of the way we use (and overuse and deplete and destroy) our resources. I don't know if the world is overpopulated yet, or how far we have to go before it is, and I don't think anyone else does either. But there is an issue of quality of life issue as well as sustainability. It is widely agreed upon that at our current population, not everybody can have the quality of life enjoyed by, say, Americans. Adding 4 billion people to the mix isn't going to do good things to everyone's quality of life. We are already losing species at hundreds of times the natural rate, running low on oil, and are running the world's timber and marine supplies into the ground. These are problems caused by too many people, poor resource management, or both. Maybe if we managed the number of people, we could get a better hold on the other issues. So, that is where you need government. People aren't going to change their ways fast enough on their own. The one kid thing actually worked for China, to a large extent anyway*, and I would fully support doing it everywhere. With the addition that you can have as many kids as you can support, so long as 2-N are adopted. But nobody likes giving up their rights, and people seem to like their religious tenets entirely static, so I can't see anything changing unless disaster strikes. *And don't start in on the poor little Chinese girls that got drowned at birth. New research is supporting what I always thought - that that whole story was, at least mostly, propaganda to reinforce American dislike for those commie Chinese.
• Can't we just get back to laughing at them for having so many kids and bad hair?
• No, now go eat your beetroot, butty. /bossy
• eep!
• To get more perspective on this situation, look up the terms "Quiver full movement" and "prairie muffin." The former explains why the Duggars do this, and the latter explains why the female Duggars dress the way they do. It's also my understanding that the parents made quite a lot of money in real estate before they started having kids. The kids don't get a ton of attention from their parents; each of the older kids has to basically parent one of the younger kids. That said, A) Earwax wins, and B) I agree with the comment that I'd have been a hell of a lot more impressed with these people if they'd adopted 14 kids. The childfree movement refers to kids as "fuck trophies," and in cases like this... meh. They should really just stop. (I mean, you have so many kids that you have to put them in dorm-style rooms? And you make them wear really dorky clothes and do what you can to keep them from much real contact with the evil secular outside world? Great. As crazy fundies go, the Duggars actually seem like relatively pleasant people. But they're still crazy fundies, IMO.) The problem with all this, of course, that if anyone tries to express this to them in any meaningful way, the obvious response would be, "What, you think one of my kids - five, ten of my kids - should be dead?" And that's obviously not it. It's that self-restraint is a virtue.
• Thanks for reigning us in, there, mr thought policeman. I am a giant cunt, come to devour you with my massive opening: I envelope you within my enormous, luscious and plural lips. You are a tiny pee-pee, scurrying about the undergrowth! How silly you look - your minature testicles bouncing to and fro!
• wow, I am developing huge monkeycrushes on quid, mct and yentruoc, for each being so kickass in their own ways. I think it must always come down to quality of life, even if these people can provide materially for their children, can they provide emotionally and psychologically? having siblings is great, but growing up in an army must be a bit erosive of individuality.
• Personally, I think that this couple are simply providing fresh, nubile young beasts for the quality human-meat-eating crowd. I mean, she's proving that there's 'plenty more where that came from', and also, young flesh is the best eatin'. So let's tuck-in.
• I'm sorry, but as your thought policeman I'm going to have to give you a ticket for that comment - and also charge you with thinking about sexually molesting me, you saucy little imp!
• Now now there's no need to think about THAT. It's quite rude and I haven't any vegetable oil.
• Another Trainwreck™ from MonkeyFilter.
• More of a rollercoaster, I think.
• My only point, admittedly strident, as in a hearty "fuck you" to all strident off-hand judges: Some of us are single parents. Some of us are combined-family parents. Some of us are elder-families. Some of us are emergency-families. Some of us are other-worldly-belief families. And on and on. I say fuck you to those who think that partial people can't be part of whole families. Sometimes, even partial people are the backbone. You don't know the truth because you aren't there. But I know, it's fun to make fun.
• Uuhhhh........whatsa partial person? Is that something we can pull out of quid's giant cunt?
• We exalt Jesus Christ as Lord, and acknowledge His headship in all areas of our lives, including fertility. We exist to serve those believers who trust the Lord for family size, and to answer the questions of those seeking truth in this critical area of marriage. Dedicated to providing encouragement and practical help to those who are striving to raise a large and growing, godly family in today's world! Heheh. They said "headship"
• Note: It was decided in a hotly-contested election, that the husbands of Prairie Muffins would henceforth be known as "Prairie Dawgs." An official Prairie Dawg greeting was also proposed. Single women aspiring to be Prairie Muffins will be known as "Muffin Mixes" and young children of Prairie Muffins are "Mini Muffins."
• His headship in all areas of our lives, including fertility. Wait... Jesus was fertile? I mean, did he procreate?
• He was partially fertile.
• He was occasionally fetal, if that helps.
• Probably fetid now and then, too, what with the wandering in the desert and all.
• How did I miss this thread for so long? You guys have been hiding all the fun, haven't you?
• SURPRISE!!! *unfurls 'Welcome Lara' banner, lets off a few party poppers* Phew, I don't know how much longer I could have stayed crouched behind the couch!
• What I want to know is what you were doing back there.
• No, you do NOT want to know that.
• let's just say my name didn't become a verb by accident...
• you sick procreational fucks.
• *gives petey his best 'come hither' look / wiggles tenticles*
• You guys are sickly. Come hither, or whither, or thither, or whatever.
• Oh, I forgot whenceforth and hence.
• I love it when he talks dirty.
• chucking a cigarette down the Blackwall Tunnel
• Jim Bob is running for the Arkansas Senate..
• Yes, come to lovely Arkansas, where our unofficial state motto is "At Least We're Not Texas!"
• He should've waited 'til all his offspring were of voting age.
• He's looking for any job that will get him away from those damn kids and his INSATIABLE WIFE! Okay, I admit, that was small.
• MonkeyFilter: I don't know how much longer I could have stayed crouched behind the couch! MonkeyFilter: you sick procreational fucks
• Shamina Latrine hasn't been seen since last October and then she was over
• 17!
• Jinger?
• Put a cork in it!
• The clown car comment is, now, even more relevant. It's going to take more than a cork!
• Looks like we will need a bigger clown car.
• *sniff* One of the first threads I ever commented in. Has anyone else ever been unable to sleep at 3am and watched one of the documentaries on these sick fucks on The Learning Channel? Words fail.
• 17 kids. Still want more. Surely she has to go through menopause at some point...
• #18 on the way!. #1: “I wasn’t expecting that,” the 20-year-old said. “But it’s been nine months [since the birth of the last baby], so yeah.” *slaps forehead in disbelief*
• I predict the next one will be named Jubjub. Or Jar Jar.
• “But it’s been nine months [since the birth of the last baby], so yeah.” Nine months and eight minutes, more like.
• That quote from the 20 year old has a tone of shrugging, mortified resignation. Have any of the kids rebelled spectacularly yet? Anyone writing a tell-all "Mommy Dearest"-style memoir? Cause you know that stuff is in the works.
• Hammer. Cork. Problem solved. posted by es el Queso at 09:54PM UTC on October 13, 2005 Funny, I was just thinking the same thing. At least I'm consistent....
• Hammer. Cork. Problem solved. Awright, seeing as how it's Mother's Day, and all: I don't think the concave bit is necessarily the problem so much, as it is the convex doodad that is actively Duggarating. You don't blame the radio for the programs it receives!
• Monkeyfilter: The convex doodad that is actively Duggarating
• geesh, TUM! MonkeyFilter: You don't blame the radio for the programs it receives!
• 18. Get that, would you, Deirdre?
• Awesome. Now the members of their church and other assorted gullible fundamentalists have someone else to give up their hard-earned money to support.
• The quote about the clown car is so disgusting, and so apt. Selfish stupid people slay me.
• I really despise these people.