After the State of Florida was successfully sued for the release of the felon voter purge list earlier this year, it turned out that the list contained almost no Hispanics. In Cuban-dominated Florida, that means a lot of likely Republican voters were left off the list. Florida Sec. of State Glenda Hood claimed it was because the Florida Department of Law Enforcement's race data doesn't have a Hispanic category, while the voter data does, fouling a merge/purge of the two necessary to stop felons from voting.
So then how is it I can search for Hispanic inmates? (note "Race" pulldown)
This isn't a home run, since the Department of Corrections is not part of the Department of Law Enforcement, as far as I can tell. Arrest reports (PDF) record race, but the only categories are white, black, indian, and oriental.
But: the Department of Law Enforcement and the Department of Corrections both keep track of the "DC Number" of felons, meaning that if you really wanted to find out who was Hispanic, it would only take one more join. Come to think of it, why not just use the Department of Corrections data?
Oh, wait- you are:
The secretary of state has said it is the responsibility of the supervisors of elections in each of Florida's 67 counties to go through the list provided by the Corrections Department, and to remove the appropriate names from their rolls.
But elections officials and Gov. Jeb Bush have insisted that the error was an oversight, and not intentional.
This is the biggest, smelliest pile of dog shit I've ever had the misfortune to step in.
Paul Craft, voting systems chief with the Division of Elections, said he recalled discussing concerns over relying on race to match felons and voters. But Craft said he forgot to mention those concerns to Clay Roberts, the elections chief in 2002.
See my above comment.
Record(s): 1 - 20 of 6,690
Huh. What glitch?
That last link that you have is interesting, jimbecile. In the first one they have his race as Hispanic, in the second it's listed as White. I'm really confused now.
I can't help but get pissed off when I hear about Florida. What they were allowed to do in 2000 deeply offended me, and now they're likely to do it again. Why they've been allowed to let it sit for this long is a mystery. Okay, Bush has lots of people in his pockets. But all of them?!
I don't know if I can even be sardonic anymore. Is there no limit to this?
Maybe it's perspective. During the Clinton years the Dittohead crowd would go absolutely apeshit when files on the White House's Travel Office appeared in a room they shouldn't have been in. Or the Clintons allegedlly made dirty money on inside connections in Whitewater. And then Bill & Monica got too friendly for Jesus.
These (war, abuse, profiteering, election rigging, et. al.) are different.
I haven't dug into THIS ONE yet, but "Is there enough of a smoking gun now?" "Is it over yet?"
/rinse
/repeat
huh. guess i can still be sardonic. maybe it's a medical condition.
shawnj: on my birth certificate, both of my parents are listed as caucasian. I asked my dad about that a long time ago and he said that the Hispanic/Latin category is a relatively new thing. Completely anecdotal.
I haven't figured out where the Secretary was lying. You proved, through your own links (arrest reports) that the FDLE does not have Hispanic. Do you have any other links? All I see is standard beurocratic incompetance. That is not a lie.
blogRot: the FDLE does not have a hispanic category, but the FDoC does, and it's easy to link the two on a unique ID- the "DC Number". Since they based their purges on FDLE and FDoC data- one of which has "Hispanic" and can be easily integrated with the other, which doesn't- saying that they couldn't purge Hispanics is disingenuous at the very best, and, at worst, a lie.
(but who would click on "Glenda Hood is being disingenuous and I can prove it"?)
In all fairness, though, they threw out the list and are building a new one.
(but who would click on "Glenda Hood is being disingenuous and I can prove it"?)
understood. informative first fpp, btw.
Only one extant human species = Homo sapiens sapiens. Bit of a misnomer, there, eh?
'Race' as applied to humanity seems to be a purely political term, based on divide-and-rule policy.
Recommend filling out any form which asks for 'race' with either the Latin name of the species or simply 'human'.
I think the whole "felons cant vote" thing is BS, and I was confused when I first read this- but this is a problem for the UPCOMING 2004 election, not something that happened in 2000, as I read it anyway.
Also keep in mind the rich tradition of electoral fraud in the US (and every other country), for example how Kennedy "won" Illinois and thus the ele4ction with a mysterious delivery of votes from his friend Mayor Daley...
Strikes me as pretty funny that Florida found a way to not discriminate against Hispanics - maybe even to give them preference. Guess I'll have to adjust my view of them as a southern, redneck sort of place. Not sure what I'll replace it with, though.
Five year old convicted for cocaine possession.
This kid's profile is interesting. It seems he's 6'4 and 220 pound. In his picture he has a beard. They just grow up so fast nowadays.
I have a solution to this. Execute everyone in the Florida government. It's time for revolution. Up against the wall, motherfuckers.
Execute everyone in the Florida government.
But Nostrildamus, who's gonna protect me from five year-old drug dealers. I do live in Florida, you know.
It seems that Glenda Hood is doing her darndest to avoid testifying against someone is accused of being incompetent.
iriam Oliphant expects to take the stand today to refute charges she is not competent to be Broward County's elections supervisor, even as Secretary of State Glenda Hood dodges efforts to testify about the accusations she leveled at Oliphant.
Hood's lawyers argued Tuesday that as a high-ranking state official, she cannot be forced to testify during the trial, a trial she set in motion last year when she persuaded Gov. Jeb Bush to suspend Oliphant. Hood has run into her own problems since and Oliphant's lawyer was preparing to grill her about how she should not face the same scrutiny.
We need a [Florida] tag.
Arrest reports (PDF) record race, but the only categories are white, black, indian, and oriental. Check out on the first page when Florida Department of Law Enforcement updated their guidelines (on the first page).
So then how is it I can search for Hispanic inmates? (note "Race" pulldown)
This isn't a home run, since the Department of Corrections is not part of the Department of Law Enforcement, as far as I can tell. Arrest reports (PDF) record race, but the only categories are white, black, indian, and oriental.
But: the Department of Law Enforcement and the Department of Corrections both keep track of the "DC Number" of felons, meaning that if you really wanted to find out who was Hispanic, it would only take one more join. Come to think of it, why not just use the Department of Corrections data?
Oh, wait- you are:
Inmate K52370's race...now you see it, now you don't.