November 22, 2007

Denial makes the world go round.
  • I don't believe it.
  • Denial, as everyone knows, is in Egypt.
  • Sorry. Interesting article. I guess the SEP field has something to do with this as well. Ignoring, forgiving, letting stuff pass, I can see why these are important to relationships. And to driving in traffic.
  • is this available on youtube?
  • Could some of your form a quartet and sing the salient points of this for me in close harmony?
  • No. It doesn't. La la la, I'm not listening.
  • I'm summarizing the article in interpretive dance, which you can't see because my work computer doesn't have Flash.
  • And finally having got the article to open using a proxy, I would agree with the new interpretation that it's one of those psychological traits that can have a healthy purpose. Fear is useful if it doesn't get pathological. Hell, I'm conservatively English enough to believe in the values of embarrassment and awkwardness and Catholic enough to appreciate the utility of guilt. I'll be on this couch a long time perhaps.
  • To compound my wacky confessional above, I find those emotions and psychological traits good in a Buddhist framework of what has been called "non-clinging." Kind of a neat balancing act of allowing these thoughts and mind-states to arise, but recognising them for what they are and not getting consumed by them.
  • "Non-clinging" is also a good feature to look for in underwear, though can be quite attractive on the right blouse.
  • I could keep this up all night.
  • On these Reality TV shows like Big Brother, there's always some dolt who claims they always speak their mind - like it's a positive personality trait that will prevent conflict by encouraging openness.
  • Denial -- is the only fact by Emily Dickinson Denial -- is the only fact Perceived by the Denied -- Whose Will -- a numb significance -- The Day the Heaven died -- And all the Earth strove common round -- Without Delight, or Beam -- What Comfort was it Wisdom -- was -- The spoiler of Our Home?
  • I practiced creative denial for decades. Finally denied the denial and faced facts. /wot a mess.
  • The link between denial and forgiveness made in the article is what interested me most. Do we, as humans, have to make a bad less bad in our minds in order to forgive it sometimes? And is that really so bad? Very interesting.
  • Sometimes the bad is so unbearable, it must be downplayed in order to continue living with the person without killing him/her. Thus codependant relationships are formed. At least, that's what I've learned from TV.
  • It's hard for me to think about stuff like this without being depressed. What's the difference between denial and living with someone while being aware of the wrong that they have done, but forgiving them? What about knowing that they have done wrong, but loving them still. If you love someone, and they've done something, whether you call it wrong, or evil, or misguided, or stupid, or all four, is it actually possible to go on loving them? If you're the one that brought a halt to the badness, can you live with someone afterwards without being their policeman? If you despise what someone has done, can you live with them afterwards without despising them also? Can you do it without despising yourself? Some things are bad enough--I can't imagine the agony someone must feel living with knowing that your son, daughter, father, mother, has committed a murder.
  • GranMa, Through my career and location in 'pen town', I've met and known so many murderers that it barely fizzes - other than curiousity about how/why it went down. Most murders are less evil than portrayed and some I even sympathized with in an atavistic manner. I always enjoyed the interactions with a woman from a small town who topped off her abusive boyfriend. He was the terror of the town and the police were actually cheering at her act. She was totally traumatised and continued to talk about him in the present tense. I don't think she could let herself admit what she did.