June 02, 2006

Cuirios George: Shoes on or off in the house? (more inside)

I was on The Comics Curmudgeon the other day, when someone in the comments pointed out (comment #54) that Canadian cartoonist Lynn Johnston who writes For Better or For Worse never draws people with shoes on in the house. This lead to speculations by American comentators that Lynn simply doesn't know how to draw shoes very well, or is lazy about it. As a Canadian, it was obvious to me -- you always take your shoes off inside! Other Canadian commentators agreed (hey, you know that your house party is in full swing when there is a mountain of shoes at the door). Perhaps this difference is because of the long, slushy, snowy winters we have to put up with (wikipedia agrees). Now, I realise that in many non-western cultures it is considered polite to remove ones shoes, but I never knew there was such an ettiquite divide between the USA and Canada. All the Canucks I talked to in Ottawa agree that you should take your shoes off. Which leads me to my question: Shoes On or Off in your neck of the woods?

  • Never take your shoes off unless going to bed, bathing etc. What if there's an emergency and you have to run outside? Think man, THINK!!!
  • Quite definitely off for this Canuck. It's also becoming more common for people to bring their own slippers to someone else's house, particularly during the winter, but this seems to be restricted to family gatherings, or where there are a fair number of old people. I brang my indoor-Birks to a Christmas party hosted by youngins last year, and was given all sorts of odd looks, which turned to jealousy once people's feet got cold after a couple hours.
  • Seems to be on a household-by-household basis in my neck of Upstate NY. Besieds personal preference, factors like type of floorcovering, general temperature of house, weather conditions, pets, kids, etc, seem to sway the decision. When I had all hard floors, I wore slippers or sneakers inside; now that I have some carpeted rooms I'm usually unshod. At other people's houses I always check the host's feet. Last night I was at the home of some folks I've never visited before; the husband was wearing shoes but the wife wasn't. I wasn't wearing socks so I left mine on.
  • I have noticed a tendency for Canadians (in AB, ON and NS) over the age of, say, 60, to leave 'em on. When I was a kid in the 60s we left them on unless instructed otherwise, which was rare then. Now when somebody (a stubborn over-60) leaves them on in my house, I feel like pouring boiling water over the floors after their visit. Yecch.
  • Bloody weirdos! I would never dream of taking my shoes off in someone else's house. And the day I buy slippers is the day I kill myself.
  • I've noticed people bringing slippers as well. I've started bringing them with me too, but strictly limited to visiting relatives. That's kinda funny Fish -- the only people I know who don't automatically take their shoes off are a couple of stubborn old 60-plusers. And it annoys me everytime. The only time I don't take my shoes off is when the host insists otherwise, and even then it feels . . . wrong.
  • When we first moved to Canada one of the "weird" things that we'd write home about (aside from milk sold in plastic bags and people being nice) was the habit of shedding one's shoes at the front door. It seemed totally bizarre. Indeed, years later when we had a Christmas party, some of our American visitors took a picture of the huge pile of shoes at the door because they thought it so funny. Now, when we go visiting, we always have to remind ourselves to wear "Canadian socks" -- meaning socks that are not worn or have holes in the toes, so we won't embarass ourselves when the inevitable shoe-shedding occurs.
  • When I carpeted my house a few years ago, it was with carpet that wouldn't show dirt/stains/etc. I lived on the lake, in and out all the time, Michigan winters, etc.... I wore my shoes inside and didn't worry about it... Now, I live in another house, with carpet chosen to match the light fur on siamese cats so the shedding isn't a problem.... (really)... and, no shoes allowed inside....... it depends on your priorities, I guess...
  • Whenever we get visitors from overseas, Mother Renault has a great task in training these people to take their shoes off. Always such a struggle. Luckily, the last time, there was a houseparty somewhere else that we all had to go to, and my relatives could see that mom wasn't being a total nutbar or closet fetishist.
  • FReAKS! *rides lawnmower through dining room*
  • In Prague it was shoes off. It struck me as a really good idea, and I've recently gone that route myself, though it is by no means the cultural norm in Austin.
  • At last! Another voice of reason, even it is only petester...
  • It seems so obvious that something that has come into direct contact with feces, mucus, vomit, and entrails ought not to be touching the surfaces of one's home. Unless it's the cats, of course.
  • my cat wears slippers while indoors. galoshes when he goes outside.
  • In Norway it is stricly shoes off everywhere, even with most people having solid wood floors. I went to Svalbard (island roughly halfway between Scandinavia and the North Pole) a few weeks ago and there people even took their shoes off before entering most public buildings. They claimed it made for better indoor climate and smaller cleaning bills. It should be said, however, that this is a place where you can enter a bank wearing a ski mask and carrying a rifle without anyone thinking it odd. Polar bears everywhere!
  • Slippers are great. But I agree with kitfisto about the shoes. If I ever go to Canade, I shall remember to pack especially attractive socks.
  • Growing up in New England, we always removed our shoes upon entering a home. It's what separated us from the savage Brits.
  • ...that has come into direct contact with feces, mucus, vomit, and entrails On second thoughts, I'm never going to Canada.
  • Oh look - the rich folk are all talking about havin' shoes AGAIN. Well maybe you people are the REAL bums. Now give me a goddam quarter.
  • Let me take you by the hand and lead you through the sidewalks of London.
  • (That were to Plegmund)
  • Hey! That there London has streets paved with gold. At least that's what the man who gave me some magic beans for the family cow said.
  • Pavements, dammit! Come on now: what if you were being presented to the Queen? You'd whip off your shoes at the Palace door and pad up to her in droopy socks? I'm sorry to say I really think some of you probably would!!!
  • Oh, was that what you ate... *fans nose*
  • Exactly. No decorum. Pip pip!
  • "Come on now: what if you were being presented to the Queen? You'd whip off your shoes at the Palace door and pad up to her in droopy socks?" As the Queen of Canada, she'd understand.
  • When the queen visits, she always removes her shoes, and puts on her comfy pants!
  • When the Queen visits, the Queen does what she wishes.
  • This is why you people lost the war!
  • I don't like people tramping dirt & sand on the carpets with shoes they've been wearing outdoors. I like paying to have my carpet cleaned much less. The one disfavor cultivates another. I politely ask friends to remove their shoes at the door, where mine are. Sand shoes & sandals, outside on the step. Nice shoes, inside on the mat I have by the door for this very purpose. I suffer strangers & tradesmen to wear their shoes with quiet fortitude, knowing that in the hereafter I will go to my reward of stain-free lush carpeting nipping at my gonads from stem to stern. I generally offer to remove my shoes if I am visiting someone with nice carpet or polished floors. But not if I am dressed as a pirate, which is about 65% of the time.
  • Entrails?
  • Shoes in the house ---> Dropped food goes in the garbage No shoes in the house ---> 5-second rule
  • no thanks.
  • Entrails? Bug guts.
  • Yeah, the 5 second rule. This is important, people.
  • In Finland shoes _always_ off when you enter somebody's home. It would be incredibly rude not to do so. Sweden is the same AFAIK. It seems weird that it's this way since carpets are incredibly rare here in private homes, everybody has wood. So it is relatively easy to clean. But thinking of the dirt and muck you bring onto that carpet in the UK/US... mad!
  • Have you no bootscrapers? No doormats? Fie!
  • In our defense, we Yanks are not internationally known for the attractiveness of our feet.
  • I wear slippers. I also own and use a wingback chair. However, I do not smoke a pipe. And, kit, I'm afraid to say that the streets of London are not paved with gold, but with lies.
  • I smoke a pipe.
  • I seem to remember the streets of London being paved with phlegm.
  • And beetroot butty butts.
  • .. dead Irishmen..
  • . . a bit of the owld je ne sais quois, eh?
  • ...Kevin Spacey...
  • Now, I realise that in many non-western cultures it is considered polite to remove ones shoes, but I never knew there was such an ettiquite divide between the USA and Canada. A friend and I drove down to California to visit his American relatives. We were staying at his grandmother's estate for a few days when his sister, who lives in California, shows up and exclaims out loud "Aw, how cute, the Canadians are here." as soon as she enters the door.
  • Your point being? heh heh. Just kiddin'. Hey, isn't Koko one o' them Coo-kooks or whatever?
  • Shoes are off. Of course this is Japan. Even in lots of restaurants you need to take off your shoes. However it didn't strike me as very weird because we rarely wore shoes inside at home in Australia either. Mainly because my Mum was a bit obsessive compulsive. It's funny - once I was watching a movie with my Australian flatmate after we'd lived here (Japan) for a few years - and the character in the movie not only wore their shoes inside the house, but laid on top of their bed with them on!!! We were stunned and outraged!!!eleventy!! Then we took a long look at ourselves and giggled a bit.
  • She's trying.
  • Here in my apartment in Phoenix: Comfy Toes! But everyone else around here are mostly tards.
  • Shoes in the house ---> Dropped food goes in the garbage No shoes in the house ---> 5-second rule Dude, the five-second rule is near inviolable, shoes or no. Only exception is if it lands in a puddle of something. Floor seasoning never hurt a soul.
  • Ha ha ha, oh you naive soul!
  • I keep my kitchen floor lightly dusted with cinnamon sugar, just in case.
  • What is distressing about visiting Canada and following the shoes-off rule is having a lack of mud-room skills. Stepping out of the shoes and onto a dry spot, with boots and children and packages, etc, all around was a tough job. I found it difficult not to step in slush or icewater after I took my shoes off in the mud-room. Then I had to take off my cold wet socks. I looked foolish and was cold with my bare feet, and I didn't bring slippers. These incidents were traumatic for me.
  • Yeah, the 5 second rule. This is important, people. Bah, time does not come in to play as much as the moisture content and surface geometry of the food dropped, as well as the location where dropped. If there's a 'lil nasty microbe, it takes mere milliseconds to attach itself to a dropped object.
  • Throw it back in the pan, sterilize it a few seconds, you're good to go. Or just wipe it off on your shirt first.
  • I disinfect with plenty of alcohol.
  • Some people advise external use only, but I prefer to douse my system. Just to be safe.
  • Some people advise external use only, but I prefer to douse my system. Just to be safe. You can never be too careful.
  • when i visit someone else's house, for maximum cleanliness and neighborlyness, all the clothes come off, not just shoes.
  • Growing up in London, Ontario we were a shoes-on house. Probably because my father's feet reeked so much once the shoes were off, but more likely because my parents couldn't be bothered putting on and removing shoes for three kids. Since I moved in with my fiancee , it's been shoes off, as it is with most of our friends' places. When we host a party it's always a mix of ons and offs, but we encourage off with the baby crawling everywhere. And my feet don't smell nearly as badly as my dad's.
  • My Canadian husband and his family always take 'en off, except if they're wearing sandals in spring or summer, then they stay on, but some of their friends and neighbors even take sandals off, which causes the lecture from my 7th grade gym teacher about plantar's warts and athlete's foot to ring in my head. The first time I visited there it confused the hell out of me. And they knew it, they were all staring at meeee to see what I did.
  • Unless your living room floor is covered in an inch of warm water, I wouldn't worry too much about athlete's foot.
  • Eh? wot's the bullshit on the shoes thing? Where ya are is what ya do. Wot's the prob? Take em off, change em, do the woolly leopard pattern thing? Wot the fuck? Custom, respect, all that. Do wot's the thing ta do wherever yous are. Easy, ask some bugger. Okay, i know i'm a dumbshit but i don't get the prob here.
  • Shoes assuredly off, here on the left coast. Fine with me as I prefer to be un-shod - take off me shoes at the drop of a hat. Best Aussie export? Blundies!
  • as a barbaric american, I grew up wearing my filthy shoes in the house. as an adult I am generally happiest when I can be barefoot or minimally shod, so I often go around the house in flip-flops or slippers (of which I own a few lovely samples including the infamously fluffy bunny slippers!) I do not tend to go barefoot in my house, due to my husband's um...well, um...complete messiness and tendancy to drop cooked onions on the kitchen floor in copious quantities... we have a few friends who do that whole 'no shoes in the house thing', and I have to say its kind of a pain. its fine to encourage, but annoying to require, that yr guests remove their shoes...what if they have embarassing socks? or 20-hole white Docs that are totally bad-ass??
  • My guess is that when you reside amongst the no-shoes crowd, you're more likely either not to wear embarassing (em-bare-toe-ing, really) socks, or not to care about such things if you do. In the end this place really is all about socks, isn't it?
  • Only crazy people keep their shoes on in the house.
  • Socks? That reminds me..
  • I had such a moment on last vacation; that split-second realization you're commiting a terrible faux pas but host was too courteous to bring it up. It was a short amount of time and threw things off-balance by complimenting on the great view out the window, though. I knew about this being common in Japan, but Canada... oh well.
  • I provide stilts for all my guests at the door. I keep them in a bucket of Lysol in the entryway. Sure, I have to keep the ceiling extra-clean, but it's worth it not to have all those entrail smeared on my Congoleum.
  • Age should have nothing to do with this. Although Canadians were still very stodgy about shoe removal in the 60s, as I recall. But I wasn't. Moving around so much while growing up, I learned to alter my manners according to the company I kept. So whatever my hostess/host wants is fine with me. And I know quite a few Americans who invite their guests to kick their shoes off and make themselves at home, so there's some overlap here. The Perfect Guest doesn't wear his shoes inside if he has stepped in dog poo or something that's recently died.
  • I had a college friend so obsessed with fear of germs, that she had special shower shoes - lest her bare feet touch her own private shower floor! Invariably, the communal bathroom slippers in Japan were always too small for my gaijin feet. Was always fun tip-toeing with those miniscule rubber flops, looking like a complete idiot (surely this was intentional).
  • And while we're discussing all these Canadian matters, let me just say how proud we all are of our girl Finola. Well done! You can keep your shoes on if you want...
  • There is just something uniquely Canadian about celebrating a second-place finish.
  • Another shoes-off Canadian, here. I have cut-down gumboots for trips to the biffy on the rainy or snowy days. Berks (or berk knock-offs) the rest of the time. I am not rigid about it for others. If someone doesn't get the drift of the line of shoes in the breezeway, I might or might not mention that they can leave their shoes at the door. I collect slipper-sox for blue-toed visitors.
  • Did they do a urine test on the winner?
  • the urine test being for the spelling bee winner, not reflecked's visitors. Welcome to MoFi, reflecked!
  • U-R-I-N-E. Do I pass?
  • I AM AT HOME NOW AND MY SHOES ARE STILL ON!!!!!!!!!!! SUCK IT UP!!!!!!
  • heh! Thanks fish tick. I got nervous. I'm willing to provide a sample if necessary, but it'll cost ya. kitfisto, I am just appalled. tsk tsk.
  • Another American here: I tend to be shoes-off in my own house, especially in the snowy winter (who wants slushy salty ick spread all over?). People here will always remove their shoes at each other's houses in the winter for the same reason (making for the party pile of shoes), but it's much more optional in the summer. My friends tend to take their shoes off in my place (and vice versa) in the summer, but it's much more an "I'm comfortable enough in your house to get really comfy" thing. I think.
  • USA. Un-Shoed. Amen. Why track all that dreck from the grocery store onto your nice carpet?
  • The urine test will be administered by the weltanschauungical Medusa. Try to keep in-frame, please. MonkeyFilter: cut-down gumboots for trips to the biffy *stands back, admires*
  • You bet your sweet biffy! Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
  • *stands back, aims*
  • Monkeyfilter: In the end this place really is all about socks, isn't it?
  • Shoes off. I have heat in the floors that makes me feel all cozy on cold winter days.
  • almost everywhere I walks I wears unholey woolly socks I don't like my whisky on the rocks I don't want ice in any drink except iced tea ... occaisionally
  • Is it because I don't have a Photobucket membership that I can never see TUM's image links? The links on the threads show up in a box with "Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting" inside, and when I click on them, they just take me to a sign on page. (Though, I did just discover that if I try to copy the box thingie to show ya'll what I mean I do get an actual link. Problem is that i don't know if it's the right one, since that one was something I looked at on Youtube just minutes ago.) Anyone else have the same problem?
  • That's odd. I see other folks' Photobucket pix, but then again I have an account.
  • I can deal well with bare feet or shoes inside a home. Just socks drives me mad as they just flop around and seem unruly. In winter I kept a pair of inside shoes to slip into when home. Not a specific pair exactly, just ones that I've not been wearing in muck. Though, now that I've been tramping around in my van full-time I've taken to being barefoot in my "home," but then my home is my van and it's a completely different experience. The little bit of floor space I have left also makes a nice place to sit and do things as it's the only place in the back I can sit upright in. So walking in there with shoes would be like walking across my couch. That is, if you'd call two layers of fluffy carpet a couch...
  • In the door: off with everything. On with jammies!
  • Can you see this, path? Canuk who wears shoes on hardwood and socks on carpet most of the time. Although socks on hardwood is best for the sliding game. I'd like to ice my floor and use skates - tubad we don't get much below zero weather here (remember: that's zero C, southies).
  • Yes, IC, I can see that. Checking the properties of yours and TUM's, I see that the location for hers is Photobucket's url, period, though there's a spot further down which gives a longer location. The location on yours has "/albums" after the Photobucket stuff.
  • Ah, I usually r-clik-"view image" to get the URL for the image post right out of the addy bar. That might be the difference? Altho', I never have problems with Pantsie's images, besides content... that filthy monster!
  • Every now and again in America I run into some people that want you to go sans-shoe. I usually go that way anyway at home, and if people are gonna ask me to unleash the tenacious funk, I'm willing to ablige. But no shoes on hardwood floor is a bad idea. I don't know how many splinters I've gotten from ringing phones and Risky Business moments respectively.
  • oh gawd this topic has been a 'mare for this london-based monkey in the last few days. Just back from a holiday in Japan. Of course I forgot about the shoes-off rule and only took lace-ups with me .... grrr ... now in Singapore and it's the same ... grrrr!!
  • "But no shoes on hardwood floor is a bad idea. I don't know how many splinters I've gotten from ringing phones and Risky Business moments respectively." We have these things called sanders & floor polish, now.
  • Unless your living room floor is covered in an inch of warm water, I wouldn't worry too much about athlete's foot. Wait... you mean yours isn't?
  • UK monkey here and I'd say: if it's a short visit or a party then shoes on, if you're staying for any substantial length of time then shoes off. How can you curl up on someone's sofa with your shoes on? Or be briskly rogered?
  • Some people advocate that shoes (especially ones with spiked heels) makes the rogering experience just that little bit more exciting.
  • Off. Especially after you've trodden in dog shit.
  • Maybe I'm posting it wrong. I've been cut-n-pasting the html tag; should I be using the URL instead?
  • In Canada, it's not just the snow, it's the salt. Here in England, there is plenty of wet and muck, but that can be wiped off at the door. Salt stays on your shoes and boots, and is nasty on wood floors and deadly on carpets. (It's bad enough on your shoes). And it seems like the division in the Western world does come by how much snow there is, and also how warm houses tend to be. Canadian houses are kept warmer in the winter than English houses. That said, I'm glad Canadians do shoes off. The floors are cleaner, and it is more comfortable to be barefoot. If I had my way, I would do as they do in Japan and have slightly raised and entirely shoe-free floors, with nice areas to leave the shoes at the door. Are tatami mats still common in Japan? Or have they given way to carpets?
  • no ... on recent evidence gleaned during a 2 week holiday it's tatami all the way in japan ...
  • Tatami mats are still the norm. My apartment has two tatami rooms (we overlaid them with vinyl though cause tatami is not always convenient). Other rooms are wooden floors. Mostly apartments are wood and tatami, however ex-pat apartments are often carpet.
  • I'll take my shoes off when I'm a guest if that seems the thing to do. However, I'll also expect my host to provide me with slippers. Bring my own slippers to someone's house? How do you know I haven't been traipsing about in vomit, entrails, etc. in those slippers, just waiting for the chance to smear them all over your nice, clean carpets? If removing one's shoes upon entering someone else's house is a show of respect and courtesy, so too is the host providing the guests with slippers during their visit. Otherwise, the host is just being pretentious and rude.
  • I'd love to have people take their shoes off, just for the sake of keeping our carpet clean. Unfortunately, it wouldn't make any difference in our house given that I allow the kids to sit on the floor and eat toast with marmite. Pretty much here that isn't a first- or maybe second-generation Asian immigrant doesn't worry about shoes. Those that do are people who have new carpet.
  • Actually, tracicle, the new carpet that came with our apartment was some industrial-reeking, poison-fuming carpet. We wore our shoes all over the jerk to get rid of the stench that made the first six months of life here (after baking soda and deodorizers) uncomfortable. I think we've gotten used to it now; I don't think it went away.
  • Monkeyfilter: feces, mucus, vomit, and entrails
  • Shoes off. the barbarity of trompling around one's living space in one's shitkickers aside, I have white carpets and small children who consider the five-second rule as more akin to a smorgasbord than a decision. "Ate daddy's eraser!" I was pleased to hear earlier this week.
  • Ah. Just got back from a good Canadian shoe-mountain-at-the-door house party, complete with the traditional cries of "How will I ever find my shoes in here?" and "Do you see the other one?" as people left. Several guests, of course, brought their own clean pair of indoor shoes. Gotta love tradition.
  • I have white carpets and small children My appraisal of your intelligence just dropped by roughly 40%.
  • I have white carpets and small children My appraisal of your intelligence just dropped by roughly 40%. Maybe Fes is just into extreme sports . . . or likes a challange . . . or is an extreme masochist . . . .
  • Berber. It was a wise choice, trust me.
  • There are plenty of people in this thread who will never set foot in my house. And there are plenty of people in this thread whose houses I would never visit.
  • *covers ears to muffle the wailing and sobbing*
  • Ah, one more for the list!
  • Right now I have no carpets thanks to the lifetime renovation project going on. I both desire the carpet and fear the carpet. Outside I have a garden and the horse pens. The driveway is gravelled. I have cow two dogs and a cat and might as well install revolving doors for them. Short of you being a sewer worker and wallowing in your work before you show up at my door, I doubt if you're going to get asked to take your shoes off.
  • I grew up in Alaska, where it is considered good manners to remove your shoes upon entering a house. Leaving your shoes on would be akin to dropping garbage on the floor - not only rude, but piggish as well. It was a difficult transition when I moved to the Lower 48 to attend college. I've been down here for 16 years, and I've trained myself to leave my shoes on when I enter other people's homes. But the first thing I do when I enter my own home is kick off them shoes. It just feels correct. (Visitors are free to leave them on, though.) EarWax the trick is to assess the area first. Are slushy puddles blocking your route to the carpet? If so: 1. Stand as close to the carpet as possible, without actually being on it. 2. Remove shoe #1, step onto carpet with sockfoot, drop shoe #1 in the entryway. 3. Repeat with shoe #2. Disposition of shoes may be tricky. Hopefully, you can find a place to set them neatly in the entryway, without having to step off the carpet. However, if it's muddy enough that you're obliged to go through these contortions, then you will be forgiven for simply chucking your shoes across the entryway to land in the pile by the door.
  • I like to have my shoes[steel capped DMs] on. Everyone is better off with my shoes on[my feet]. Apart from the first of each month, when I buy a new pair[the old ones go on the 'pile']. You can never have enough dirty socks my old mum used to say, actually it may have been clean towels or something, same difference. Who listens to old wives tales?
  • It's quite possible that those of you who mention odorous feet would benefit from a lot more barefoot-time. There are probably many people in Canada who leave their shoes on (maybe even 24/7).This forum is a pretty small sample. I'd also like y'all to know that I DO have indoor plumbing; I save the capabilities of the barely adequate septic field for guests unless there's a blizzard. aaaand..... :) I want to testify that a person can dance as well as biffy in cut-down gumboots. Traction is almost always a good thing.
  • I think I like reflecked :)
  • Well it's taken a couple of days and over 100 comments...but anyway.... Here in Japan every house and apartment has a special section at the doorway, usually with a hard surface of some sort, and then a step up into the place itself. There is usually a rack or cupboard for storing shoes, and most people have slippers for their family and guests at the door itself. Really if you expect people to remove their shoes at the door, you can hardly have them hovering on the door frame itself and whipping off their shoes to run around inside with be-socked feet. Setting up a little area with a shoe rack upon which their shoes can be stored carefully (and in some cases dry off a bit) would be a courteous idea. Also remember to have a fancy shoehorn there as well to help them put their shoes on when they leave.
  • Yet another Canadian here. I'm amazed by the number of people in this thread who are okay with shoes in their house. The only people who wear shoes in their house around here are at least 65 years old. I would consider it horribly rude if someone came in with their shoes on. Even asking me about it would floor me. It's like asking if belching in public is all right. Weird.
  • **narrows eyes I think we who have posted in the lost socks threads need to look verrrry carefully at this so-called "pile" that Randomaction hasmentioned confessed to.
  • Several hours north of here and I'd be in Canada. We generally wear house shoes in the house here (like slippers, but more support - we like all-weather clogs from Lands End, or well-structured pool shoes in the summer). We don't walk around in stocking feet or barefoot, but we generally don't wear the same shoes indoors as outdoors. A lot of this is just because I have really bad feet and need the arch support. I don't know anyone in this area who would tramp around their house in winter boots after coming in from a snowy day, but some people might not take off their shoes in the house in the summer. They're ugly as sin, but I really want a pair of Crocs for around-the-house wear this summer. Is that so wrong?
  • when folk who come in take off their shoes they'll step on something moist the collie chews or they'll get feathers embedded in their socks and soon be tracking birdseed everywhere they walks
  • minx -- I picked up a pair of Crocs on Friday, and they're super. Like a cross between Birks and moonboots. Bouncy Birks. Nice. Plasticene brown. Had a bit of a problem with the sizing, though. The mens had an 8-9 size, and a 10-11 size. Normally, I'm around a nine, depending on who made the things. But the 8-9 was a little snug, and the 10-11 a mite too big. Went for the bigger size, but I have a mental block about fitting into their XL size. But yeah. Embrace the bandwagon. Go and buy Crocs. Now. Nownownow.
  • I welcome the bee-socked In the manner of which we've talked But mind the pets as you're received The big one's harmless The small one pees
  • it's spring, tra la! it's spring! and every morn is deafening for birdies now have built their nests and have nothing better to do than hold shrieking contests and the upshot as far as I can see if you step under the apple tree be sure to wear a broad-brimmed hat for birdies will and do go splat splat splat
  • 's not a COLLIE, 's a SHELTIE. (but that's exactly why we wear "house shoes". which the sheltie then snots into by sticking her nose in to smell 'em and then rolling them around.) Will totally jump on Crocs bandwagon. Red ones I think, or maybe those new raspberry-and-lime thongs!
  • As I sit here in my home office and work, it is raining ice pellets. They are thumping against the window. For the third time this month. Gah!!! It is OCTOBER! Leaves should be falling, not ice. I need a winter vacation, and it's not even winter yet! Not even close! And now I've used up all my exclaimation marks!!!
  • 29 degrees here. Snow has been threatening for days. If my truckhouse were ready, I'd be outta here! (Psst...Anybody seen my welder?) *hands Ralph a pair of thick socks*
  • A Canadian quandary: when the guy comes to fix the dryer, do you ask him to remove his shoes if he doesn't do so automatically, or being Canadian, would you not want to risk appearing rude by asking? *harrumps at dirty footprints on carpet*
  • A Canadian quandary: when the guy comes to fix the dryer, do you ask him to remove his shoes if he doesn't do so automatically, or being Canadian, would you not want to risk appearing rude by asking? *harrumphs at dirty footprints on carpet*
  • Huh! Spot the difference.
  • harrumps -> harrumphs
  • The latter, I would think. There's probably an exception for tradespeople -- but, wait -- don't furniture movers have those J-cloth galoshes? My little beaver brain is confused...
  • Why don't you have disposable bootie things for rude guests? Hmph! *stomps off*
  • This time last week you'd never have gotten away with mentioning your little beaver brain.
  • *breathes deeply the fresh air of freedom*
  • Beaverist!
  • A Canadian quandary: when the guy comes to fix the dryer, do you ask him to remove his shoes if he doesn't do so automatically, or being Canadian, would you not want to risk appearing rude by asking? Not a problem for me the Americanadian! "Hey! Take yer goddamned shoes off! Whaddya live inna barn??"
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  • friggin' Americananadaianas.
  • I am being polite, you jerk!
  • meant to put quotes around that. pete's not a jerk. AFAIK.
  • He does leave his shoes on, y'know.
  • No one said he was civilized.
  • *scratch*
  • Just found this thread for the first time. Here in Hawai'i, shoes on is a big no-no. I haven't figured out if it's from the huge Asian influence here or because of beach sand.
  • buncha copycats! Too much sand there, Pete?
  • When I clicked on the Ask Mefi post, all I could think was "I'm sure I've read this before." Ha.