even with skipping the first link because of the registration...I got it... two people look alike.. therefore??
snark attack! look out!!!!!
It's more clever than that - - a subtle "hint" at Lynndie's preferred beverage of choice...
Have been looking for an alternate linky to no avail.
try this: user=fuckingbullshit pass= 123456
lynndie likes dr pepper? and looks like the dr pepper guy? and huronbob is bracing for a snark attack?
*confused as usual*
Notwithstanding the apparent beverage of choice, I think it's interesting, and interestingly stupid to put in a guilty plea and then have people come up as witnesses espousing your innocence. I hope whatever bargain she got for the plea goes into the toilet and she gets convicted on trial and gets the full penalty.
naw... I was being snarky! I wasn't expecting anyone else to behave in that manner, ya'll are much more kind and polite than I am...
But!!!!..IF IN FACT, Dr. Pepper is lynndie's favorite beverage...I take back my snark.... In that case, the look alike factor is JUST PLAIN CREEPY..and I will NEVER drink another Dr. Pepper for fear of becoming an odd looking person with no common sense! (and, I put that as nicely as i could!)
Perhaps I'm missing something, but I didn't think the post said Lynndie looked like David Whatshisname? I don't get it, HuronBob.
Honestly, I don't know how you people can drink that plummy crap.
Fes, don't diss my Dr. Pepper. Dr. Pepper is the breakfast of champions. A lot of people drink it because it tastes good: better than the bathroom cleaner that other soda companies sell, anyway. ;-)
Coincidentally, Ft. Hood, where England was tried had her plea bargain thrown out, is about an hour from Waco, the home of Dr. Pepper.
but in the spirit of the post:
"They say Diet Dr. Pepper tastes just like Regular Dr. Pepper.
Well, then they fucked up!"
--Mitch Hedberg
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON!!!111!
and that's different becauuuuuuse . . .
Yo no comprende tampoco.
ya know..I was going to actually read that first link..but when i realized it was going to take me ten minutes to make up a lot of information, i said the heck with it and just came back here to complain! :(
WHAT THE HECK IS THIS POST ABOUT!!!!?????!!!!!!!!
but...doesn't she look like that guy in the ad in the second link... ??
I quit! I'm an not a good interneter today.. I will unplug now!
*slaps petebest's face with kidskin gloves*
Pistols at dawn, Suh!
C'mon HuronBob, I did all the "monkey work" for you already and provided a user/password for the first link.
And another pic here, again sporting a Dr. Pepper, the day before the one linked above.
Sydney Morning Herald: Mistrial As Abu Ghraib Guilty Plea Is Disallowed
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A US Army judge has abruptly ended the court martial of Private Lynndie England, saying her guilty plea was not believable.
The surprise mistrial in the highly publicised prosecution of the soldier - who was famously pictured at Abu Ghraib prison outside Baghdad holding a naked prisoner on a leash - does not mean England, 22, will go free. The army can charge her again and even add more counts.
But the judge's rejection of her guilty plea could undermine the Pentagon's assertion that the Abu Ghraib scandal was solely the fault of a few enlisted soldiers.
Under military law, the judge could not accept England's plea unless he was convinced she knew she was committing an illegal act. Her lawyers had long maintained she was following orders, but after a plea deal, England said on Monday that she knew her actions were wrong.
Since her hearing began this week, the judge, Colonel James Pohl, had expressed scepticism about her admission of guilt. His decision to stop the hearing followed testimony on Wednesday from a former Abu Ghraib guard, Private Charles Graner, who is serving a 10-year sentence for his role in the scandal.
Graner, who in civilian life worked as prison officer, said that the widely circulated photo of England holding a naked prisoner on a leash was not abuse, but a standard method guards use to control unruly prisoners.
One of the charges against England was that she "did conspire" with Graner to mistreat prisoners. If Graner and England felt that use of the leash was proper, the judge concluded, there was no crime. "There is no finding of guilt that can be accepted any longer," he said.
England was an office clerk with no training as a prison guard when the army sent her to Abu Ghraib. She told the judge this week that she followed Graner's direction in the prison "because he was an MP [military police], he had the corrections officer background. He was older than me".
Neal Puckett - a civilian lawyer who represents Brigadier-General Janis Karpinski, who ran US detention facilities in Iraq - said that putting Graner on the stand probably destroyed the chances of the plea agreement working. In as much as military judges must ensure that a guilty plea is legitimate, Mr Puckett said producing any evidence inconsistent with guilt can scuttle a deal.
"If you plead guilty, it's all the way - you can't show you're not guilty," he said. "Her deal is gone. It can only be worse for her."
England originally faced charges that could have sent her to jail for 38 years. Under her plea deal, she admitted guilt to seven charges in return for a sharply reduced prison term.
But from the start, Colonel Pohl raised doubts about England's culpability.
Other witnesses testifying on England's behalf on Tuesday described Abu Ghraib as a putrid, dangerous, overcrowded prison where inmates and their US guards were constantly sick, US soldiers received minimal training and army commanders failed to apply the Geneva conventions.
A military doctor who worked at the prison, Colonel Anthony Auch, said: "I do not condone what [England] did, but we cannot ignore the lack of leadership her unit received. The chain of command as a whole failed her."
There has been entirely too much duelling around here lately.
*claps hand to bosom, faints*
And I wanted to throw another thing in... why is the press allowing the bullshit line that the sergeant (who fathered Lynndie's child) was the ringleader?
Pardon me for speaking bluntly, but enlisted soldiers are basically not allowed to think. Not much, and certainly not allowed to act upon an idea of "let's play naked Iraqi pyramid" without the knowledge of officers.
Where's Karpinski's head on a pike? She was the general officer in charge of Abu Ghraib, and as such, is responsible for everything that takes place under her command. She's either explicitly culpable in the brutality, or was criminally derelict in her duty to manage and command that facility.
Either way, she shouldn't be "General" ANYTHING anymore, and should be looking at a prison term equal to or greater than these enlisted soldiers.
Once upon a time, I believed the line that honor meant something in the military. But I guess honor is only the smokescreen and if you've got a star or two or three on your shoulder, you don't need such things as duty, honor, or responsibility.
*clamps halberds to bosom, feints*
can you spell w-h-i-t-e-w-a-s-h?
Bottom line: Lynndie walks. Her superiors continue to be portrayed as "out of the loop." Neoconservatives snicker up their sleeves. And the insurgency in Iraq just got a whole new raison d'etre.
Where's Jack Nicholson when you really need him?
"Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Whose gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinburg? I have more responsibility here than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. I know deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you don't want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to. "
ahhhh... a breath of fresh air! The sound of a man proud of his job, the sound of a crazy person...but fictional... or... is he?? :-|
/i can't do that "bosom" thing....Can I?
*rubs cheek*
OwwwWWW.
According to some psychology blokie I read about earlier today, Ms England was deprived of oxygen at birth. She has learning difficulties, and tends "to listen to authority figures". The description of her mental capacity reminds me of that of Timothy Evans.
I think it was silly to allow her in the army, and I think it was more than silly to allow her to "look after" other people. And I think she is also a victim of whatever the fuck is going on there.
Sorry. After posting this I was away until now. The original link was not requiring registration when I saw it (I hate registration links). Thanks to the monkeys for the alternative pics (and registration log-in).
Perhaps this is a (clever?) new form of product placement/free media exposure for companies to exploit. We'll know it is for sure if we now catch Michael Jackson coming out of court holding a Pepsi. Or perhaps Pepsi would pay him big bucks to get him to hold a Coke.
was triedhad her plea bargain thrown out, is about an hour from Waco, the home of Dr. Pepper.