January 26, 2005

Spurious George - So what happens if you are confronted, with the truth, small & pathetic though the truth may be, that you are an asshole?

They called you foul, yet your song was as sweet to me as the morning lark. They called you a resource, but more human than the most sensitive mother you were, understanding innately the moods of those around you, so distant in species. They said that you were stupid, unable to exhibit 'higher functions', yet you behaved as if you had some intrinsic understanding of another creature's mood. Altruism? I don't know how that extends to a creature that crossed a busy main road not once but four times to return to the doorstep, croaking your hellos, even though there was no certainty that I would not return you to your owners. Yet come back you did, & banter with me in a most un-henlike manner as you bustled in every night at exactly 6:00pm, & woke me with your song at exactly 6:30am. At no other time did you utter a sound, except to greet me with a particular chuckle when I came outside, to alert me where you were. Perky, energetic, you followed me when I weeded the garden, never in the way, merely watching carefully & waiting til I moved on to scratch in the loose soil, grabbing grubs & beloved grasshoppers with delighted chuckles. Coming in every night you cocked your head, regarded me with beautiful black eye & sang "Gaawk!" to mimic human speech. You were not stupid. But I was stupid. I knew there was something wrong when you grew quiet. I knew there was something wrong when your comb fell to one side, discoloured. But I ignored it, full of myself & my ego, preaching how life should be lived, how compassion should rule all. And all the while I ignored the humble little being that sat at my feet in its hour of need. And tonight, as the flames licked your flesh, I knew that I was a fool. As I wept for such a simple creature, I knew how much of an hypocrite I was. Despite my loud calls, my exhortations to peace, I failed to even trust my own inner voice when a simple being so close to me was sick, until too late. I am a fool. My words are but lies, folly. If I cannot listen to my intuition to save a mere bird, what they call a foul but which to me is sweet, then I am not worthy to judge anyone. Except myself. I turned my back on you, & tonight as the flames licked your lifeless flesh, I knew that Nostrildamus the Arrogant was dead, just like the small red bird was dead, killed by his own ego. How could he judge another when he could not even see the illness of the smallest one at his feet? What a mighty fool. What a monster. What an egotist. And so, tonight, Nostrildamus is dead. The one who speaks thru' him will post again, but that voice is gone, hopefully stilled in its arrogance, its haughty superiority. He who made proclamation on how others should live their lives in peace could not even take note of the suffering of a simple animal that gave his life joy, until too late. Until it had suffered too long. What a bastard. What an insensitive dolt. What a monster. If you cannot practice what you preach, with even the lowliest of beasts, then what are you but a mouthpiece for hypocrisy? I have failed, yet again, the test. I cannot be what I wish to be. All I can be is a demagogue; a mouth loudly taught, shouting, saying nothing. Only two hold me here, without them, I'd spare you all my worthless bullshit. Goodnight.

  • Condolences on your loss.
  • We love you Nostril.
  • First of all, my condolences. Pets of any kind are family members, moreso when they exhibit a personality as yours had. But I think you have far too high an expectation of yourself. You are no expert in diagnosing avian illnesses. You are just a companion to a pet whose time has come naturally. None of this is your fault. Keep being you.
  • Only two hold me here Hold on, I see 2769 more.
  • I second SideDish, we love you Nostril.
  • Third-ed. Hang in there, tough guy.
  • ooops...that sux. Sorry *hugs*
  • Wait, your chicken died? So you're posting under a different name? OK then. Just color me confused.
  • I'm sorry for the loss of your companion, Nostrildamus. My condolences.
  • To answer the question, I make apologies to those to whom I've been unfair. I then try again, and try to remember that I'm no better than anyone else. Sorry for your loss, old man. Come back to us soon.
  • Any companion the universe sees fit to give us -- mammal, bird, reptile, etc -- is a gift, and it sucks when the universe takes it back. Here's a hug, Nostril.
  • My condolences on your loss, Nostril. Sometimes animals get very sick very fast. Ferrets, to take one example, have a very fast metabolism, and they can go from sorta not doing well to death's door very fast. Every time one of our ferrets got sick, I always felt like a terrible ferret mommy, but I'm not sure I could have done much differently. Don't take your bird's death as a personal failure, and please don't go away forever. We'd miss you.
  • Nostril, we love you. I'm shedding tears for you and your chook. You gave her a good life. When my old cat went last year I knew she wasn't well, but I didn't get her to the vet in time. She was dead when I came home from work. I still haven't forgiven myself for letting her suffer. So I understand where you're coming from. Hang in there.
  • Chickens, like most birds, get very ill very fast. I doubt there is much you could have done, and possibly nobody could have done anything. I'm very sorry your friend died, and I hope you begin to feel better by and by.
  • Nostril, please don't be so hard on yourself. My heart is breaking. It hurts so much when someone close to you dies, especially when you feel responsible, but we make mistakes, and there's probably nothing you could have done anyway. You're one of my favorites here, please don't ever leave. I now have a headache from trying *not* to cry at work. I think I need to go home sick ...
  • I like the old Nostril. Don't beat yorself up about it, and please don't change.
  • That's a lovely tribute to your friend. Certainly, she saw wonderful things in you, and, as you said, she wasn't dumb. So sad! Be kind to yourself.
  • I would like the new Nostril to be the same as the old Nostril, except for the addition of a superfluous nipple.
  • So what happens if you are confronted, with the truth, [... ] that you are an asshole? Har! Ain't never gonna happen!! Please note the subtle irony of my posting this comment in this thread.
  • I was going to be all snarky [1] just for a break from the all the love, cozy it up with a laugh, you know? But then I remembered you never know how something like that's going to go over on the internets.[2] So instead I'll just say this: I learned something important about guilt recently, in particular guilt you can't address with the one you feel you've wronged. It's useful - like most pain, it serves a function - so wallow in it for a while, make what use of it you can. But then forgive yourself, 'cause no one else can. It does one good to do a little soul-searching, but you'll do no one good, yourself least of all, by letting this or any other pain crush you. [1] Something like "C'mon Nostril, you've already admitted you're an asshole..." [2] And besides, bernockle & skrik beat me to the lighten-it-up.
  • *pours out a tub of gravy on the ground for my lost homebird*
  • Sorry, I couldn't resist. Sorry about your chook mate, chin up and much love.
  • I'm sorry, Nostril, truly. In light of our recent conversation, I'm not so sure you were the same person even a few days ago. I hope you can rise from the ashes of your bright and joyful bird and be whole. My condolences.
  • I hope I'm not the only one who thinks this thread is pretty damn funny.
  • I just kept trying to figure out if the chicken was literal, or, like a metaphor or some shit. But the thread, yeah, it's pretty funny...
  • Well, I don't know about funny. However, as someone who through childish negligence was directly responsible for heat stroke in two guinea pigs, I know the overwhelming feeling of guilt. But you aren't responsible for this. You were a kind and loving companion. Don't beat yourself up, and be glad the suffering was minimal. And don't you dare change!
  • ...and am I to understand that you cremated her?? hmmm
  • Sorry for your loss. But I have every confidence in your assoholic ways -- I'm sure this effect is only temporary. Your public demands it.
  • I hope I'm not the only one who thinks this thread is pretty damn funny. You're not. *feeds quidnunc a sugarcube, scratches his belly*
  • Oh, Chy, I am shocked and deeply sorry to hear of your chook's death. Been so much looking forward to hearing about her...but not this, my friend, never this. You are wild with grief now and I am heartbroken for you as well as lamenting the loss of your little one. Ego aside, you don't realize, perhaps, how extemely hard it is to spot ailments among birds. Not just saying this, for I've kept birds nearly all my life and still can't tell when one's ailing until it is very far gone or dead. No one can, and there is no avian expert clever or experienced enough to tell. Most birds are flock animals, and don't wish to be driven out of the flock which is their safety, so birds evolved to hide their symptoms so that the other birds in the flock wouldn't drive them away. Which, for us puny humans, means by the time we do understand something's wrong, our bird is almost dead. What impresses me so much about your bird is that she chose you, old hen-whisperer, and to her you were her flock. Staying with you and being near was her comfort. She was happy being with you just as you were abviously happy to have her. The more I think about this, the more remarkable it seems, and I can only conclude she had excellent discernment in selecting you. Do remember the good times with your chook, dear fellow, and I hope you will try not to let your ego and your anguish limit your view of her so you see only the latter moments of her full life. Because then you really will have lost her. I mention this because you once said something about not being able to talk about your cat Conrad that makes me fear you might try to close a door on the magical rapport you and she had -- please, leave the door open to your immense and passionate heart. I love you, I wish with all my heart I could help you now, but only time can let us attain a measure of calm in the face of our profoundest sorrows.
  • What f8x said. (Did I really just say that?)
  • Sorry to hear it Nosey - we'll be here when you're back to your caustic inflammable self.
  • You're human. Welcome to the club. Keep trying to do better next time.
  • Nobody who can write such a wonderful eulogy - despite the sad parts - to a departed companion can possibly be that much of an asshole. Nostril, thou hast bamboozled thyself into showing thy goodness with the help of a sly chicken friend who is still looking out for you, you lucky dog :)
  • This is a funny thread - and one that shows us at our best. We're complicated like that, yo.
  • ...and am I to understand that you cremated her?? I read it to mean that he ate her. I would have done.
  • Monkeyfilter - where to turn when your beloved chicken has passed on.
  • "Today, I finally understood the process of aging. I held the cheddar to my cheek, inhaling its sweet aroma for the last time before the cooking would change it subtly, forever. How sad, I thought, the cheese smooth on my face, that these cultures made this cheese over a process of months or years--only for me to destroy it. It's true, in my human arrogance I assumed my superiority to the cheese. And the wheat of the bread, so carefully ground to make flour, with its high starch content...soon, I would carbonize part of that, it would become saturated with butter made from milk intended for a baby calf. But carefully, I sliced the cheese -- oh, would that I could cut myself! -- and put it between the slices of bread. I buttered it, and grilled it. As I slipped the first bite between my moistened lips, I knew what a loathsome creature I was, and yet I could not stop eating. I am forever changed, forever guilty. Forgive me." Also: GET YOUR OWN BLOG.
  • Seriously, guys, I understand the sense of loss when a pet is gone but there are plenty of places for goddamned pet eulogies. There've been several here lately but this takes the motherfucking cake. If we're going to start discussing our pets' "passage over the rainbow bridge" or some shit, we may as well become a Yahoo! group and get it over with.
  • I truly could've never imagined myself ever uttering this sentence in a million years, but: Can a man a chicken loves truly be an asshole at heart? I dare say: Nay! Many of us have our tough, monkey made walls around our psyches and hearts... Burnished exteriors bristling at the uncaring world... some more than others, but it's the little ones who always sneak in... and thusly have the most ability to bring subtle, comforting enjoyment, and when it's their time, devastating pain. It's funny, I hadn't thought of this story in many years, but my mother became a vegetarian after her folks killed a chicken who "adopted" her. In their defense, they didn't know of the bond, and the chicken was purchased for the sole purpose of eventually becoming dinner, but I remember her telling me of this when I was a kid, not really understanding how someone could get so attached to something so tasty... That is until the fateful day of Bonnie and Clyde (two lobsters my parents brought home. Me and my sister played with them in the car the whole way home, and cried for the entire dinner... I don't really care for lobster....
  • Or, we could look at is as someone turning to his online pals for cheering up. You wait until my mother-in-law dies.
  • GET YOUR OWN BLOG. you're soaking in it. Now piss off.
  • AUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH if you need me I'll be over on metafilter, where they may be snarky and cruel and assholes, but at least they're not using their space for eulogies that could euphemistically be described as "overwrought" and at worst could be called absolute bullshit sympathy-seeking.
  • Everyone's an asshole at least 5% of the time, and it looks like it's musingmelpomene's turn right now. This too will pass.
  • No, I remember when this site had better links than metafilter. When it looks like a bad yahoo group (and believe me, I subscribe to enough of them to know what they look like), that is beyond irritating. When it looks like a bad yahoo group mated with a godawful livejournal and spawned, I consider leaving. I probably won't because I'm too bored at 2 in the afternoon. But good god, I can't be the only person to think that there's a time and a place and this ain't it. Or that at least you could handle it with dignity like the other pet eulogies have done - a few lines and a picture, not sympathy-grabbing "oh I am such a fool, a fool!" crap that would be best suited for a 17 year old goth kid's website.
  • This site still has its share of better links than MeFi, doesn't it?
  • Breath. Relax. Calm down. Want a chicken dinner?
  • I can't be the only person to think that there's a time and a place and this ain't it No, you're not the only person. I thought the same thing about your comments inthis thread. if you need me I'll be over on metafilter We don't.
  • Well, I guess I am the only one. I'm gonna go pick up a bucket from KFC, who's with me?
  • Don't like the post? Ignore it. Don't waste your time shitting it up. Simple, eh? You can even create a post of your own that you approve of, if you're so inclined.
  • Musing: as dickdotcom said... "MoFi is a big place." There are other threads, y'know. I'm sure you don't find every non-pet thread here a titillating experience in web surfing. If you don't like the topic or the ensuing thread: *gasp* stop reading it!!!!! wow... there's a fucking novel idea, don't you know... Now, shut up, stop your bitchin' and I'll see you on Metafilter...
  • GET YOUR OWN BLOG. this, from a woman who a few weeks back was begging for advice on how to handle a problem at the office.
  • Was that the problem about the bloke in the cube next door who thinks she smells of hot buttered donkey?
  • hot buttered ASS, skrik
  • Musingmel, your comments are like school on Sunday. No class. (I thought the cheese eulogy was funny though.)
  • Oh... and not to put words into His Assholeness' mouth, but I seem to remember him chiming on a FPP I posted that people were bitching about... I think it suits this one as well, as he's not around to tear musing a new one. post something interesting then. posted by Nostrildamus at 08:52PM UTC on January 19 ...
  • One last post, to try and get this back on topic... Wanted: musingmelpomene Crime: Thread jack Last Seen: Headed towards metafilter with a bucket o' KFC Suspect is to be considered Armed and Hot Buttered Assed. :)
  • Thank you, koko. And I don't have anything particularly interesting to post at the moment. Which is why I'll refrain. I think asking questions is significantly different/better than begging sympathy. I even think begging sympathy for a human death is a lot better than for a pet death. There are plenty, plenty, plenty of places to post this stuff. I just didn't think monkeyfilter was one (unless, possibly, a monkey died. If your monkey dies, I will not object to an overwrought eulogy. Far be it from me to mess with the monkey). Apparently I was wrong! I'm taking my toys and going home. *weeps*
  • at least they're not using their space... Well. This is our space, and we're using it as we feel fit. Snark and world-weariness is easy, and frankly, pretty pedestrian. Having a space where, among a great many other things you can have the best chicken eulogy ever is truly a fabulous use of space.
  • MonkeyFilter is NOT a MetaFilter clone. It may have started out with that intention, but it has become something very different...something better. musingmelpomene is right that a post like this would never fly over on the blue, but that's what makes us better, IMO. 'Curious George' posts have no limitations over here. Musingmel, if you want to engage in soulless chats about the latest headlines and petty arguments about what is or isn't post-worthy, you know where to go.
  • When it looks like a bad yahoo group mated with a godawful livejournal and spawned, I consider leaving. I probably won't because I'm too bored at 2 in the afternoon. Musingmel, that you are bored is obvious, why else would you take the time to piss on this thread?
  • I think asking questions is significantly different/better than begging sympathy. "I'm lonely on Christmas, please console me..."
  • *sigh* Nostril, my very bestest condolences to you. Have a beer or 47. We're here for you.
  • musingmelpomene, isn't there a better place for metawhining on MoFi? Don't like what's on the site? Move on or take it to management. All you're doing in this thread is making it about you and showing off how big of a crass crone you can be.
  • umm... rocket... psst... I wouldn't say no limitations... learned that the hard way
  • In what way is a chicken eulogy not the best of the web? It just happens to be on this website. Sorry for your loss, Nostrildamus.
  • Sincere condolences, Nostril. Hang in there, mate. In time, I'm sure you'll be adopted by another loving creature. In the meantime, you've got monkeys.
  • To be fair, moneyjane, good snark and world-weariness is not easy. Mushy platitudes are, because you can't critique them without looking like, well, an asshole. I was really surprised when I first read this that everyone was taking it so seriously (but honestly, MoFi does err on the side of maudlin often) when it seemed to me that he had cooked and eaten the chicken. Which, apparently, he did not. Which did damper the amount of humor I found in the post. I suppose it is nice to know that there's always a forum for unconditional net sympathy though, and I'd be a liar if I didn't admit that there were times that I thought about posting here just for that. Am I an asshole for thinking the thread would be funnier if he had eaten the chicken? Maybe. But the thread would be funnier if he had...
  • I thought the "GAWK!" quote and the overwrought language earmarked it as an obvious joke, myself, but then nobody was laughing. If that makes me an asshole, then please pass the hot butter.
  • JS... I'm reminded of this Homer: (crying) Oh my dear sweet Pinchy (eats a huge mouthful of lobster) No more pain where you are boy...(Snaps Pinchy in half) hrm... that's weird... my mom had her chicken die and my folks killed Bonnie and Clyde the Lobsters... coincidence?
  • November 7, 1987 HEADLINE: Three Students Rebel Against Slaughterhouse Assignment DATELINE: CAMBRIDGE, Mass. BODY: Three Harvard University art students have rebelled against an assignment to adopt a chicken, watch it be slaughtered, cook and eat the bird, then use the bones to make a sculpture. "It would be like a pet, and to take your pet and have it killed is not a comfortable thing for me," one of the rebels, senior Hannah Gittleman, said Friday at the university's Visual and Environmental Studies Department. Ritsuko Taho, who teaches Fundamentals of Sculpture, told 17 students this week to adopt a live chicken for a day before taking it to a slaughterhouse, then watch it be processed before making a meal and then a sculpture. The lecturer said Thursday that the assignment was intended to reduce the distance between art and object. "Because they will have eaten it, the chicken will be part of (the students') bodies," she said. "This experience will expand their imagination and understanding."
  • and knowing how chy feels about animals, no, this post is not a joke
  • Well, one would never want to eat a euthanized chicken. The euthanizing agent would probably be harmful to a human. Unless "euthanize" is a euphemism for "turning the chicken's neck really hard to the side." In which case, you're good. And hey, I never claimed my begging sympathy post was in any way better. But you'll notice people shat on that. So I'm returning the favor.
  • Musing, actually I don't notice that anyone shat on your Christmas thread. Where are the turds? Nice favor you're returning.
  • Don't let snark beget snark... I never shit on anyone's thread, if it doesn't interest me, I don't post. There are plenty of posts here, and other forums otherwise, though MoFi is my favorite. Besides your snarkiness today musing, I've not had reason to question any of your posts or thread contributions. Sure, it bothers me when people shit on my threads, so I don't return the favor. That said, I'm glad you're still around...
  • SideDish, you made that up, right? Next up: "Students drink buckets of paint and projectile vomit onto canvases." And if this is now a begging site, I'll just stand on the corner with a sign and a coffee can.
  • But you'll notice people shat on that. Actually, they didn't. At all. And Nostril himself made a really wonderful contribution to that thread, ending it by wishing you 'Peace'. I'd really think about dropping that shovel any second now.
  • I think the students should only be allowed to rebel if they're vegetarians. Anything else is a bit hypocritical, isn't it? Debaser: Isn't there a Simpsons where Homer turns into a doughnut and eats himself? Or was that some sort of weird hallucination I had?
  • Would it be inappropriate if I started posting pictures of baby chickens now? It would? Okay.
  • nope, cynn, actual story.
  • Ok. I'll chip in 89 cents to send Nostrildamus a dozen potential chickens. Will that satisfy everyone?
  • Works for me. Plus chocolate :)
  • Isn't there a Simpsons where Homer turns into a doughnut and eats himself? Yes there was. It was a Treehouse of Horror episode. /knows too much Simpsons trivia
  • Marge: Homer, stop picking at it. Homer: But I'm so tasty!
  • Good. I thought I might have been high and imagined it.
  • I'm very sorry to hear about your birdie friend, Nostril. I hope you let yourself off the hook and come back soon. Your posts are usually the first ones I read.
  • In fact, send the chocolate to me, and I'll make sure he gets every single one I gnawed on but didn't like.
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  • My condolences and sympathy, Nostril.
  • Nostrildamus, I'm sorry for your loss. I've kept chickens myself, and know how lovely they are. I've not been with this monkey band many a moon, but I can say this: I like you as you are. And if you choose to change, I'm sure I'll like you as you will be. Peace (or, for now, nearest attainable equivalent)
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  • Also, I feel sorry for musingmelpomene.
  • I have now, officially, seen it all. Sorry about your chicken Nostril and... Well, I'm sorry about your chicken.
  • And mel is allowed her opinion too, isn't she? Pretending that this thread isn't just a little... um... eccentric would be plain cowardly. I will refrain from the obvious joke.
  • Restraint is bad for you. Clogs up the pipes.
  • The "I asked for scrambled" photo is my new favorite thing ever. I've printed out a copy to go next to my PETA Colonel Sanders bobblehead.
  • When I was younger I had geese for pets. Wonderful creatures, they would start running from the creek when they heard the bus on the road. By the time I stepped out they were at the edge of the driveway. People do not give enough credit to feathered pets, preferring the furred. Saddest thing I ever saw was my pet goose (the last one left alive) trying to fly away with the Canadian Geese who made a stop their every year. He was too big, and just could't get far enough off the ground. One of the happiest things was when a male and female pair turned around and stayed for another three weeks with him.
  • Pretending that this thread isn't just a little... um... eccentric would be plain cowardly. I don't think anyone is doing that. I think the objection is to someone declaring such eccentricity as "...sympathy-grabbing "oh I am such a fool, a fool!" crap that would be best suited for a 17 year old goth kid's website."
  • "I have failed, yet again, the test." I guess that's a way to look at it. When was the last time you rewarded yourself for passing one of these 'tests'? I guarantee you haven't failed all of them. Everybody fucks up eventually. It's what you do in the interim between fuckups that matters. I'm sorry your chicken died. Be yourself, asshole or not. Be well. People fail all the time. You can let it crush you and quit, which probably isn't what you want, (or what the chicken would have wanted for that matter), or you can just accept it, and get back to what you were doing.
  • No, I remember when this site had better links than metafilter. When it looks like a bad yahoo group (and believe me, I subscribe to enough of them to know what they look like), that is beyond irritating From the FAQ: While ostensibly Mefi is about the links, not the discussion, MoFi has a more explicit focus on discussion and debate - always friendly. More bananas, less flinging. Let's put the money where the tagline is. This has happened before. if it's a real problem, hold it 'til Tracicle's back. uh, bashi?... we kinda broke mofi while you were gone...
  • not sayin' we're breaking mofi, just had the amusing mental image of all of us in a mom-finds-broken-vase-and-kid-pleads-innocent sort of situation with tracy
  • Muffpub broke MoFi. I'm tellin'.
  • "When was the last time you rewarded yourself for passing one of these 'tests'?" Crucial. You have to remember to do that, and it's really not easy if you aren't in the habit.
  • MCT's a tattle-tale MCT's a tattle-tale I'm nooot liiistening
  • Ashes to ashes, funk to funky. And you'll never be a bigger asshole than me, Nost. Buck up, chum. We love your weird ass.
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  • dng: Ahhh! I've been trying to find a copy of that ever since it graced the cover of the mercury a while back.
  • I can't be the only person to think that there's a time and a place and this ain't it. You're not. I'll probably get slammed for this but yeah, get a damn blog.
  • No.
  • My sincere condolences, Chy.
  • late to the party but nostril? honey? I'm sorry about your chicken. It is horrible when pets die, and love is love, grief is grief, and there is nothing for it but to mourn. I recommend Jamesons. also, a white sauce with shallots & mushrooms
  • hey mygothlaundry, speaking of pets, how's them rats doing? ;) kidding! hey nostril, i'm an asshole too. it's more fun this way.
  • I'll probably get slammed for this No way! In fact, I invite you to join me at recess pushing the little kids off the monkeybars! Heh. I said monkeybars...
  • Condolences. I've always thought your greatest virtue was the ability to see that you were not above anyone else and, to a degree, the ability to put yourself bellow others when you started to believe otherwise. But really, how can you ever hold on to that wisdom or be free of your ego if you can ever put anyone (including yourself) below anyone else? If you take on punishment, one day you'll take on reward, and that reward is, I think, your worst enemy.
  • Chy, is there any chance it died from old age?
  • This has become so complicated. I can understand why people who don't seem to have had a similar bonding with a pet have found humor in this thread, and why the end of thread silliness has started. But I can't understand the anger in musingmel's comments. So, here's where I'm coming from. Nostrildamus has told us that this is the place where he can relate to people. He lost something dear to him and wanted to talk to the people he trusts. My guess is that he doesn't have a circle of friends in real life, so finding comfort meant coming here. If it's not a MeFi standard to rely on your friends, I don't give a shit. And, musingmel - I agree with others that your asking for sympathy posts were not trounced upon, so this seems really out of line. You do have a right to express your opinion, but I do also have a right complain about the way you've done that. And, as usual, beeswacky said just the right things in just the right language.
  • Nostrildamus is one of the many reasons that I enjoy this community so much. The Nostril is ours, our friend, our grand lad. I won't hear a word said against him - not even from his own... er... keyboard! Big fruity nanars for him, forever.
  • I'm sorry to hear about your loss, Nostril. I would be terribly sorry to see you leave and this place would be the worse for it. And you can add my voice to the defenders of this post. If this post flies against some netiquette rule erected to buttress self-important concerns about the quality of a community, then so much for the rule, I say.
  • Please don't leave Mr. Nostril. Don't make me send out a search party for you like you did for me. Truly, though grateful, I nearly shat myself in alarm when a great hairy monkey wearing a baggie of mushrooms around its neck drug me out of the snow.
  • moneyjane - it was the only thing that would save the hive, so it was necessary. The Nosril Knows. In other words, you're as important to our wellbeing as he is. Live long and prosper.
  • Nostrildamus: (?) The first three posts I ever submitted here were met by abuse by you. Completely unwarranted abuse. Some would call it 'flaming'. I stopped posting here after that. I would suggest that you may still be an asshole. Flame me if you are.
  • Nostil: HEY, rock on, be happy with yourself, cuz we all (mostly) are. Also, I'm drunkk.
  • moneyjane wins most poetic comment ever award. or maybe it's just really late.
  • and yes nostril, we will be looking for you if you leave. at least, a good chunk of us will.
  • I'll be willing to fly to Perth. Anything to get out of Winnipeg. Just give the word and I'll go.
  • What birds plunge through is not the intimate space in which you see all forms intensified. (Out in the Open, you would be denied your self, would disappear into that vastness.) Space reaches from us and construes the world: to know a tree, in its true element, throw inner space around it, from that pure abundance in you. Surround it with restraint. It has no limits. Not till it is held in your renouncing is it truly there. -- Rainer Maria Rilke, trans Stephen Mitchell
  • This is Nostril's post. GramMa sez: If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. Sorry for your troubles, Nostril. In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. -- Frost You're quite vulgar and often funny. Don't desert the monkeyhouse.
  • If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all That must be the most erroneous description of monkeyfilter ever ;)
  • Hey, Nostril. Sorry I was out of town, and managed one post before my friend's connection died. My condolences, I know what it feels like to lose a companion. Take care, you.
  • you sick fucks.
  • Yeah!