March 09, 2004

• Those look damn comfortable..... Too bad I could never leave the house though. God, I hate the social norms of the youth
• Sloops
• These things make pleated jeans look cool.
• i thought a bachelor's button was a flower.
• They might make you look slimmer, but the model-guy is totally sucking it in.
• They just look...wrong. I don't see how wearing suspenders with belt loops intact would look any worse.
• Morkfilter. Seriously, how does a guy come to realize that he's a "suspenders person" or a "bowtie person?" Is it obvious, or does someone else have to tell him? Being neither, I've always wondered.
• i feel unusual: When he realises that his trousers/pants don't stay up without suspenders/braces. That said - this is all wrong. Everyone knows really serious suspenders wearers have proper BUTTONED suspenders, not cheap clip on. I don't think they make the model look slimmer - these pants look too large, because of the larger waist. Trousers that are cut a little higher and come in at the waist are the most flattering for slim men, especially when worn with suspenders. Also flattering are coats that end at the waist, at least in the front, like tailcoats. Now you want silly? You have to see someone wearing braces AND a belt.
• /me lives in los angeles and hasn't seen anyone wearing suspenders as far back as he can remember.
• I'm a bowtie person because my father was (and is) a bowtie person.
• ha! goetter that's fun! a colleague of mine owns 55 pairs of suspenders.
• (completely off topic: there is not now, nor has there ever been, a good reason for putting java on a web page. especially not for navigation buttons. when the hell will people learn you can do an image rollover with css?) back on topic... um... not really sure that there was that much of a market for the suspender-lovers out there. i never had a problem using a plain ol' belt. course that might be different if my waistline stopped on the underside of the overhang, so to speak... i knew a lady once like that, never understood how her pants defied gravity without the aid of suspenders or a belt. they just hung there, sticking like the paper cup that comes wrapped around the bottom of an ice cream sugar cone... not that i'm trying to make fun of the larger members of our society, but seriously, i never quite understood why they didn't just fall down around her ankles. great, now i'm going to hell for making fun of her. oh well.
• [They're using a vintage 1998 copy of FrontPage, frogs.]
• Amusing cultural difference: these trousers use braces. These are suspenders.
• oh my. that is quite a difference. we yanks call those garter belts.
• That confusion is a problem, dng. My boyfriend wears suspenders(US) - no matter how I try to convince him, he refuses to try suspenders(UK) :) Though being in the UK now, I assume he will definately switch vocubulary. Caution live frogs: I believe many switch because they have very slim hips that trousers fall off of. But that said, I would fully support a come-back - I think men look good in suspenders/braces. (Though of course Tim Curry looks very good in both.)
• I'd watch out, jb - wearing suspenders can lead to very bad things.
• ... silly? You have to see someone wearing braces AND a belt. Around these-here parts, jb, a braces-and-belt man is the one you want to hire for your accounting. Braces-and-belt plus a cork up his ass is a different sorta feller. Frankly, these things will never fit most of the good ol'boys that hang around the hardware store. It requires a pair of pants cut low enough in the front to allow for gut room, but high enough in the back to cover the dreadful ass crack that is revealed when they stoop to handle the 3/8 inch nuts in the bottom bin. *shudder* Maybe somebody can size the things to obscure 6 inches of grimy white socks revealed when the suspenders are hiked on? Ah yup.
• To the incredulous and uncomprehending among you, I can testify that there are people out there wearing braces, and that I'm one of them. Why would I do such a thing? Because I'm a sway-backed, bow-legged genetic freak. As a result, a belt just doesn't hold my trousers up. They pull into the hollow of my back and flop down at the front, then kind of shimmy down at the back until I look like a wannabe skater and walk like a penguin. For years I just tried to tighten my belt, with the sole result that I walked like a penguin with a sore stomach. Braces, however, solved the problem. They don't hold my trouser up single handed, but they provide just enough elastic pressure they they don't slip down all the time. Having said all that, I don't think I'll be buying any of these jeans. For one thing, I rarely, if ever, wear jeans. Next, I don't like the idea of getting rid of belt loops. Despite my braces, I constantly wear a belt so I can hang stuff off it. (Shocked? Ask youself 'is this guy trying to look cool anyway?') Finally, all the pictures show dumb clip-on braces. Clip-on braces are pretty useless; only the button ones work properly. The clip-on-only pictures make me suspicious of these jeans. What's the point in buying trousers specially designed for braces, if they don't even come with the right buttons? Oh, also, I'd like to wear bow ties more often. They look nifty.
• I thought garter belts were what women wear? For holding up stockings?
• I, for one, won't be happy until I can work the phrase the underside of the overhang into conversation. hey! that was easy!
• suspenders, braces, garter belts. differences in terminology continue to confuse us, on either side of the pond, despite the fact that we started with the same language. so, uh, whatta ya call those thingies that old men used to wear around their calves, to keep their socks from sliding down?
• Garters, as far as I know.