I'm clearly the woman obsessed with being married, willing to settle for anything.
That's why I support gay marriage. Everyone deserves the right to obsessively to poor over bridal magasines and demand huge rocks.
also, what beeswacky said. It seems he's had a lot of exes. Maybe that says more about him than about the women he's dated.
Wow, and apparently he's married. Now that's scary.
*avoids*
I wouldn't touch this post for a free weekend at Pismo beach.
*... what beeswacky said. It seems he's had a lot of exes.?.....??...!!!
As a drone, I am of course prepared to give my all for my queen and my hive.
But it is the nature of things that a drone has no exes. Drone mates with queen = drone dies. Queen goes on to lay eggs. 'Tis the bees' way of reincarnating the hive.
It's not that bad - it's a collection of interesting dolls from all over the web, with mildly sexist commentary as he sums up all the women he's dated into 10 categories. His wife may or may not be in one of those categories.
I just think it's sad that this person has married a woman when he clearly doesn't see women as individual people, but as something defined by their gender. I hate it when women do this about men "Men always do this, Men always do that". It's so sexist. I'm married to a person who happens to have a Y chromosone and male plumbing, but I married him because I love his person.
someoftheinterestingdoll*siteslinked.* . .
*linked before
Sorry, that was a problem with English grammar. I had no intention of slightly your good bee name - I was referring to the author of the post.
slighting. I also cannot type.
You relieve me.
In truth, jb, we have almost no monkeys whose fingers don't trip now and then. And then there are those of us
who cannot spell...
Reading this article made me totally reconsider being evil. Thanks, Skrik ol' buddy!
At the end of each article this guy writes is a plea for more page views. God damn it, I have fallen into his little trap!
This isn't ten kinds of women, it's a chronological account of his marriage.
and if he thinks he's got it bad, he should look at poor bees...
I thought that the first three were describing characteristics of some women that are so strong that they can overwhelm the rest of her traits (obsessed with marriage, looking for a fight, over-sensitive). The rest are either traits that are not important enough to overwhelm other traits (she dresses too provocatively?) or are traits that are not specific to women at all.
All in all, a stupid list.
Man, those women who won't shut up! Am I right? Am I right!?
Just shut up women!!!!
I look forward to reading of Palla Athena's eviltry.
Well, as you know my wife reads my article and she has informed me in no uncertain terms that she thinks this article is sexist. I agree but I also told her it doesn't mean it's not true.
This guy has a wife?!?
Well, she sounds like a combination of the woman who won't shut up and the woman who's willing to marry any old jerk.
This seems a likely bit of tinder for this thread.
hee hee--TUM
I started to say the guy was a real jerk...
but this is a site for highlighting weird products/art/stuff which may mitigate.
I'm wondering after glancing at some of his other (humorous)postings if he just was looking at a way to highlight the different kinds of dolls and got a bit heavy-handed with the stereotypes.
On the one hand, it sounds like some real sexist trash, on the other, I hate to get all politically correct and have my knickers in a twist.
You know how some women can get all huffy at the slightest thing?
...clearly doesn't see women as individual people, but as something defined by their gender. I hate it when women do this...
Is there a married woman among us who hasn't ever walked out of the room disgusted and muttered, !!MEN!!
with the exception of jb, of course
Even the loving Bees would most likely confess to an occasional wee sting from his honey.
As a transgendered physicist, he's in a unique posiion. Few of the rest of us can speak about gender roles and men's downplaying of women's abilities with the authority/expertise he possesses.
However, I don't think ye need to undergo a sex change to notice this happening to women and girls: but ye do have to be willing to evaluate comments and actions with a degree of objectivity.
Much as I might wish I didn't agree with him, I do agree with him. Seen it happen too often to be able to ignore it.
transgendered physicist?
i think the article says neurobiologist.
it's a very interesting read.
Mirabile dictu, now there's two folk that have read it!
You are quite right, of course, roryk.
/bad bees
shouldn't tease
should mind his cues
and eat his peas
Bah- that's just the hormones talking.
11 Types of WomenPeople to Avoid
11. Guys who write sexist articles with generalizations that could easily apply to either gender, especially where economic and social power balances are different.
Oops... you know what, before anyone else jumps on the logical contradiction on my last post, I'll do it myself:
11. GuysPeople who write sexist articles with generalizations that could easily apply to either gender, especially where economic and social power balances are different.
haha ironic yeah I know.
OOOOoooooooh, are we going to get an irony detector, too?
Yeah, right.
*bongdongdong dingdingding **flashing lights** dingdingding bongdongdong
No No nothing with dinging or bonging or FLASH. Trust me, that kind of thing gets monkeys VERY upset!
Berek - it's your choices that get us upset. Dinging, boinging and Flash have nothing to do with it.
Ok, folks, can I finally say "troll?" Is it clear that he's trying to get banned? (Is there some website where people record their banninations to see who wins? I can't imagine any other reason for working so hard at this.)
I heard bonging and dinging in here!!!
*jumps up and down on furniture ooking madly, rips out stuffing, flings around fruit peels*
The woman who is one big freak show:
*cries*
*but not out of regret*
Take a breath, people.
Wow, I sound like a condescending prick, don't I?
Sorry. Been tiling my bathroom all day. Grumpy. Must find whiskey.
Is there a married woman among us who hasn't ever walked out of the room disgusted and muttered, !!MEN!!
Uh, yeah. Me. I usually replace the word "men" with "damned useless females," but that's because I find most of them pretty useless.
(And they just won't get the hell out of my way when I'm on the road. JUST PULL OVER ALREADY AND LET ME PASS!)
Furthermore, I am a cheerleader of men. Rock on with your bad selves! The raunchier you are, the better I like you.
HUMANS!! MONKEYS!!
*walks out of the room
*skips into room throwing rose petals
I am a cheerleader of men.
Is that like some sort of Holy Football Jebus complex?
"Of" or "for"?
Oh for fucks sake. This is why new people don't post. You want to ban him because you find his posts annoying? Come on.
Well, Nick, he's been a bit over the top with the posts, but he's got some great funny comments and doesn't actually troll (the majority of) threads.
Besides, GramMa had a nice talk with him, and he promised he'd be good.
*winks, sneaks Berek another frosted sugar cookie
He's NOT a troll. Think he actually likes us, heaven only knows why.
He's as annoyed as the rest of us by current circumstances. He has interesting things to say about books and other subjects. I think we are his sort of place. Best of all, the guy has a sense of humour.
And obviously we need all of that we can get around here.
What? Pete and I aren't enough for you people?
Sheesh. I mean, really.
I disagree, beeswacky - humour killed my wife. Or possibly a tumour. In any case, science has proved that skin cancer is less prevalent in people who frown. Or people who are brown, I forget which. So I demand that Berek be dissolved in bong water.
Wait, wait...someone married you?
I don't think you mean wife. I think you mean bowie knife. Or possibly elixir of life. Or maybe cat.
My guess, mct, is that this poor woman didn't know a thing about it. Fantasy, voodoo tent at the circus, whatever.
It should be mentioned in the Restraining Order. Or the psychologist's notes.
Once again, you mental dwarves are arguing over semantics when you should be readying certain instruments of painful death for those who have transgressed our just laws. How do you live with yourselves? Perhaps you moved out years ago, and your selves now must room with a lodger - a mysterious, old bald fellow with a lazy eye, who constantly mutters into his beard dark fantasies of revenge upon a world that has crushed his once bright and cheerful soul and who never buys toilet paper.
That is certainly the only possible explanation that makes sense to me.
Quiet down and somebody help me lift this sofa.
*clams down*
*cheers up*
...a mysterious, old bald fellow with a lazy eye, who constantly mutters into his beard dark fantasies of revenge upon a world that has crushed his once bright and cheerful soul and who never buys toilet paper.
Quid, you KNOW Berek that well?
Cheer up! Remember, in eeked threads like this, the subject always turns to Quid and ....
..a mysterious, old bald fellow with a lazy eye, who constantly mutters into his beard dark fantasies of revenge upon a world that has crushed his once bright and cheerful soul and who never buys toilet paper.
Sounds like a lover I once had.
Toilet paper is for peasants!
Umm, GramMa, not to be disrespectful, but in what sense was this thread "eeked"? Could you be having a GramMa moment?
Senile!
I'm absolutely going senile!
I meant to post that on the other thread. You know, the eeked one.
*puts dentures under couch cushion, butters the cat, forgets to turn off porch light
Yup, she's got Weisenheimers.
I don't think Berek is being trollish, or trollesque, or trollily, or trolloodilicious. At least he's not a great big wet crybaby, like Nickdanger.
And, in my own defense, I don't engage in serious ad hominum attacks against those I desagree with. Humorous ad hominum attacks are okay.
Smile when you call me that, pardner.
butters the cat,
Nooo, GramMa, NOOOOO!!!
Drink of the Week: hot buttered kitty with rum
I'm confused - Berek didn't post this thread, Skrik did. And no one picked on the poster, just the author (it is getting discussion going). I only objected to Berek's previous link because it crashed my browser - I just thought it should just say "so incredibly irritating it will crash your browser and make you force-close". But there is no reason whatsoever to be talking about Berek in this thread - and calling him a troll is unjustified.
Back on topic:
"Is there a married woman among us who hasn't ever walked out of the room disgusted and muttered, !!MEN!!
with the exception of jb, of course"
Actually, I frequently leave rooms feeling completely exasperated and muttering "!!! Dreadnought!!!" (who is clearly his own entire species and gender).
More seriously, I do think it's bad for gender relations for men or for women to group the other as an Other (if I can use the O word). Maybe because I have not, since early high school, been in many all female social situations, but I can't see myself ever saying anything that could be true for an entire gender. The most emotionally sensitive person I know is male (that would actually be Dreadnought), the most pigheaded about directions is myself (female), the fashion concious used to be my brother, the best cooks I know are also male (though my mom of course still has the magic "mom" flavour in her macaroni and cheese)...every stereotype breaks down when you start thinking about the people I know.
But I do have to say that the society I knew in Toronto (my friends, their families) was quite nono-traditional, and I have been aware of much more traditional Canadian, American and British people (these being the places I have lived), where gender divisions are stronger and there is more pressure to fit to accepted gender roles. This does change relations - if you grow up being taught that men and women are essentially different - that all men should be good at football, but unnatural for women to have leghair - then you will see a gulf between them.
But I think this is dangerous - I think this is the basis not just of sexism, but also of homophobia, because gay men and women are breaking down what men and women are "suposed" to be. If we really want to progress into a "gender-blind" world, where we judge people by their character, not their genetalia, we mustn't stereotype entire genders any more than we tolerate racial or ethnic stereotypes.
After reflection, jb, think I consider sexism to be a symptom of intellectual laziness, a mental crippling - the probable result either of people not being encouraged to or being constrained from thinking for themselves.
I dislike sexism so particularly because it exemplifies/embodies a lack of compassion toward half the human race, because its possessers tolerate human suffering, and because it results in such a senseless and unnecessary waste of human abilities and talent. Basically see it as victimizing not only women in ways that are fairly obvious, but men, too, in more invidious ways, in that it distorts and diminishes our innate impulses to protect and care for others.
Daresay there are many more aspects to the problem that a sociologist or shrink could single out as lying at the roots of such a widepread social dysfunction.
Having watched attitudes shift in my lifetime, see no reason why we can't manage to treat one another better than people have in the past. Don't expect to see social change happen all at once, though I'd like to be wrong about that.
I like it: "This link sucks, let's ban Berek" has a nice ring to it, actually.
that's very sexist of you, Nickdanger!
besides, you don't want to ban Skrik do you? (since skrik is the actual poster).
Pah!
I always win. The little bar just doesn't show long term damage.
Old age stealth and cunning (and a stinger) wins out over youth agility and strength every time.
Right, Bees?
oooh I've been beaten by the quidcorpse. is it ok if that turns me on?
WomenPeople to Avoid 11. Guys who write sexist articles with generalizations that could easily apply to either gender, especially where economic and social power balances are different.GuysPeople who write sexist articles with generalizations that could easily apply to either gender, especially where economic and social power balances are different. haha ironic yeah I know.HUMANS!!MONKEYS!! *walks out of the room